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Massive Protests Erupt in Iran against the "Morality Police" Who Murdered Mahsa Amini for Not Properly Wearing Hijab. The Islamic Republic is Cutting Internet To Keep The Protests from Spreading. Please pass on these videos and don't let them!

MarbleWorld

September 21, 2022
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A quick explainer: https://twitter.com/baalwoo/status/1572352393739649025?t=ZhhyanFo57oVCc2ZIaJ60A&s=19

Iranian Journalist documenting the protest: https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih?t=cw07LVVEBf9L3YTDKysBgw&s=09

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Title Massive Protests Erupt in Iran against the "Morality Police" Who Murdered Mahsa Amini for Not Properly Wearing Hijab. The Islamic Republic is Cutting Internet To Keep The Protests from Spreading. Please pass on these videos and don't let them!
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Date September 21, 2022 7:13 AM UTC
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[–]catsweedcoffee 111 points112 points113 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It’s wild to me that American main stream media didn’t pick this shit up until today. I’ve had to read international news to get even a little bit of coverage.

[–]peakok115 54 points55 points56 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

American news could not give less of a shit about Iranian women unless it's to demonize them or talk about how insane they are for wearing hijabs. The right-wing wants to say they are all evil, and the left-wing wants us to believe they all make a conscious and unbiased choice to wear hijab. Neither seems entirely true to me. We kinda split every issue into 2 pieces to fit either narrative

[–]crookedpot 306 points307 points308 points 3 years ago (59 children) | Copy Link

Heres to every fake woke person who say ‘you cant criticise hijab-its a choice!’

[–]III_Dingleberry 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

It’s usually men who claim that it’s a choice. No it’s not. Even in Europe it’s not a choice. Men in the family always pressure women to do it.

[–]crookedpot 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Yes and no. Women esp older ones are just as guilty.

[–]III_Dingleberry 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

No. It’s a man made religion. Men are usually the ones who force this nonsense on women.

[–]crookedpot 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Wanna talk about wnforcing hijab in pakistani or somali households in uk? Lots of my girl friends have been forced by their mothers and aunts

[–]III_Dingleberry 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Men are the puppet masters of owning and controlling. they got that mumbo jumbo from their father. Then the husband and then they pass it on to their daughters. Just because they use women to control other women doesn’t mean men are not to blame for this. Even seen a group of women set a girl or fire because she refuses to wear a Hijab? Me neither. Have I seen men do it? Hell yes.

[–]crookedpot 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It starts with men yes of course

[–]III_Dingleberry 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Almost any grief stars with men. Even the male fetus drains more nutrients from the mother. That says a lot.

[–]meowsaremeowing 203 points204 points205 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So true!!! I'm from Iran and let me tell you, it was NEVER a choice. Since the day we were born, this ugly ass law was forced on our throats, and we had to wear scarfs and cover our bodies fully since the age of 6, otherwise they wouldn't let us get education. This new left wokeness has silenced the middle east women for a long time already!! They believe theyre respecting us by letting us suffer bc of the hijab rules, but in fact theyre only pleasing the government who enjoys the oppression this hijab stuff is making us go through...

Idk who told them it was a choice... since when a 6yo child would want to go to school in the hottest weather possible, while being fully covered by heavy clothes from head to toe?? Do fake wokes even think??

[–]cookiekisses_ 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[–]jrl2014 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Legally, it's from the age of ten.

[–]meowsaremeowing 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

9 for girls (15 for boys btw lol as if they wear hijab)!! And they dont care about it lmao I started wearing hijab the moment I started going to kindergarten. That was their rule

[–]tooschooledforcool 97 points98 points99 points 3 years ago* (25 children) | Copy Link

I think it really boils down to the choice to be able to wear it or not. No one should be killed over their decision. In india woman are right now being denied access to education if they wear a hijab. Both cases woman are being stripped of the right to choice. You can be critical of the choice without killing or deny people rights over it.

Edit People are confusing choice with two different things.

Was it ever a choice to begin with? Probably not.

Should people have the choice to not wear or wear the hijab without consequences for said choice? Yes This is what I’m referring to when I say choice moving forward.

[–]akashyaboaFDS Newbie 87 points88 points89 points 3 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

But do they chose to wear it or are they pressured by family, culture ... ? As a muslim myself I know a lot of girls that wear it because not wearing one means abuse from their families. Islam is not a feminist religion and never was. The history of hijab is the same as before Islam, differentiate between "free" women and the slaves that you can assault/rape in public spaces. Needless to say that a hijab wouldn't always protect the Muslim women but that's besides the point.

The whole thing is a disgrace and they are hiding behind islamophibia. No religion that allows a husband to strike his wife, decide her education or any other choice about her way of living, or that allows sex slaves should be protected. (Obviously same goes for any other religion as they are all misogynistic without exception)

[–]tooschooledforcool 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link

Im not denying criticism of Islam and the hijab. That isn’t the point I am making with my comment above. I agree with you I’but banning it or forcing people to wear it isn’t the solution. We can deconstruct the implicit pressure to wear it which is valid too. I’m trying to say that people should still be allowed to choose. I know a lot of elderly Muslim woman would not be comfortable not wearing it when they’ve worn it all their life. Forcing them to remove it is also stripping them of their autonomy the same way forcing young woman who don’t want to wear it , to wear the hijab. First we provide them explicit freedom to choose and then we analyse implicit ways preventing them from following their choice. I’m not for or against. I’m for protecting woman choice to choose and not be forced

[–]meowsaremeowing 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Let's talk about the things that are ACTUALLY happening! No one is forcing hijabi women to do anything in Iran, but on the opposite side, women who dont want to be forced to wear hijab, are in fact dying and losing their lives over simple things like the color of their clothes... let's focus on that!! On things that are in real and serious danger and need actual help. Once we were done with that, we could also talk about the imaginary oppression hijabi women recieve in Iran lmao

[–]III_Dingleberry 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It looks like men didn’t get the memo. A woman died getting beat up for not wearing an Hijab, a woman is facing jail time because she recorded herself without wearing it. Typical scrotes acting like these women who are wearing that ridiculous scarf aren’t forced.

[–]tooschooledforcool 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Man, I’m just replying to the Redditor above. I don’t know what you think I said or what you’re talking about.

[–]meowsaremeowing 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

???

This is a public forum! I can read the convo and answer based on that. Just say you dont have any answer to my words.

[–]tooschooledforcool 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I’m really not following what you’re trying to point out here

[–]meowsaremeowing1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Hijabi women are not oppressed in iran so fuck off with your arguement and stop commenting about a country you dont even live in

[–]tooschooledforcool 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Literally where did I say hijabi women are oppressed?

[–]meowsaremeowing1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You tried to take away the spotlight from women who are fighting against the forced hijab law by talking about how it must be hard for elderly women to leave hijab behind, like? No one in Iran is forcing hijabi ppl to take hijab off, so you should NOT be talking about that.

[–]tooschooledforcool2 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I was elaborating on the previous example of choice I had made as a reply (In reply to the person making the fake woke people comment) to another redditor and even said that woman should be allowed to choose as a point I made to another commentor. In no way was I stating that people are forcing woman in Iran to take the hijab off(I made that an example for the case in India as a dichotomy of choice running on both ways) or that hijabi woman are oppressed. Like literally relax. I'm not trying to take away the spotlight from anyone. I genuinely am for the woman protesting here and am not criticizing them in any way. I believe the woman in Iran are fighting for freedom to choose to not wear it if they didn't want to. I am pro people of Iran fighting for the right to not wear it if they don't want to.

[–]JadedGlow 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

sorry but you are coming across as one of the fake wokes addressed in the parent comment. the answer to the question on the link between hijab and oppression is a simple yes or no, doesn't necessarily require so many ifs and buts.

[–]tooschooledforcool 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I’m not concerned if I come across as a fake woke person. In Irans case it’s a clear yea and no, it isn’t always the case for everywhere. Again, in the name of pointing out it isn’t as clear s yes and no, I pointed the out the example of Muslim woman and the hijab in India (this is not me taking away the spotlight away from the cause but just purely an example). Retread my initial comment about choice with the edit. If any part of that seems hard to understand, let me know. I don’t mind explaining it rather than you misinterpret what I’m saying and make assumptions

[–]JadedGlow 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I am an Indian as well.

[–]tooschooledforcool -3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know how it’s relevant to the comment I made. That dosent change anything I mentioned in the commen

[–]albus247 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I second you, in India's case it is non muslims (we know who they are) who are forcing them and they're not forcing them out of good will for women because the same men forcing them to take it off do unspeakable things to women in India from their own religious group. People who aren't aware of this really should be. Ultimately the choice to wear it or not should be left to the woman, we cannot yank their clothing off of them because we believe we know better. Often this leads them to further violence. I implore everyone to read about what happens to Muslims in India. Heck read about what happens to women in India and how we are treated. We have to approach everything with caution because our lives are literally not protected. There are no protections whatsoever if you get raped, except maybe an additional rape by the police officer when you get there. The people who want to remove muslim women's hijabs there are not doing it out of concern for their sisters, it's the me squabbling between who gets to control women more.

[–]JadedGlow 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree , nobody else but Muslim women should be the ones protesting against hijab in India, but that will never happen. Hindu men don't give a damn about them in anyway at all, neither do Muslim men about Hindu women. And I say this as a Hindu woman myself.

[–]im_phoebeFDS Newbie 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Can you tell me who or which institution is denying education to muslim indian women without hijab?

[–]tooschooledforcool 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Karnataka_hijab_row

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/hijab-not-part-of-essential-practice-of-islam-rules-karnataka-hc-petitions-dismissed-1925468-2022-03-15

[–]peacock_sunglasses 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Keeping aside the fact that this regressive "choice" doesn't appear out of vacuum, but is a result of conditioning and shaming, in India the dispute is over hijab being allowed in a school uniform in a particular school where the institution has a dress code. Schools in India generally have school uniform dress codes for everyone. Nobody banned hijab across the nation. And I would say that it is a good thing to keep women away from patriarchal practices like hijab when they are young schoolgoers.

[–]tooschooledforcool 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then aren’t we taking away families right to practice their religion. Like asking sikhs to not wear turbans because a dress code. I’m not for the practice but if we’re trying to fight patriarchy by the use of dress codes then we’re barking up the wrong tree.

[–]peacock_sunglasses 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Indian schools have school uniforms for kids of both genders and the idea is to make schools a “level playing field” that reduces socioeconomic disparities, and encourage children to focus on their studies rather than their clothes. It has nothing to do with patriarchy. In fact the dispute was over the question if hijab can be considered an essential part of Islam or not. And if you are not for the practice I'd think you agree with young impressionable girls going to school not taking up the hijab.

[+]smokeythegirlbear -14 points-13 points-12 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It’s a choice in the US

[–]crookedpot 28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Were talking about Iran here but even in western countries its not always a choice.

[+]smokeythegirlbear -17 points-16 points-15 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You didn’t say Iran in your comment

[–]wet-plants 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The post is about Iran.

[–]crookedpot 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you read twitter comments we refer to?

[–]III_Dingleberry 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No it’s not. Being manipulated to wear that ridiculous thing is not something you chose for. Women who’s re brainwashed by religion try to seek comfort in the falsehood that they want this. Why want oppression.? No woman desires the bread of dependence. It’s men who make women believe that.

[–]tabboulehlover1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

Since when did this subreddit become islamophobic??

[–]meowsaremeowing 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Talking about the reality of hijab is not equal to Islamophobia!! Also we've been born and raised in an Islamic country... dont even try to teach us about the "real" Islam lmao

[–]crookedpot 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would it be islamophobic?

[–]somalikween1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Criticising hijab and misogyny doesn’t equal islamophobia

[+]wont_read_wont_reply -78 points-77 points-76 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Can you name me some countries where the headscarf is enforced by law aside from Iran?

Can you also list out which Muslim majority countries you've visited or whether you've had any Muslim friends who wear the headscarf.

A lot of westerners ars super dense. They don't know how to differentiate between being forced and not being forced. Or maybe they're just pretending.

[–]SeeMarkFly 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Morality Police, coming soon to a government near you.

[–]crookedpot 78 points79 points80 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Men and women are protesting !

[–]Meowcat_420 45 points46 points47 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I was shocked, lots of men protesting and I didn’t expect that

[–]liljalp1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s not rare. Men are also oppressed by the Islamic dictatorship, ofc not anywhere near the amount that women are but many are still imprisoned and executed for standing against the regime. We have some of the highest execution rates in the world

[–]crookedpot 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No wonder so many Persians decide to emigrate. Brain drain is a real problem, a lot of ppl I know miss their country but dont want to return

[–]III_Dingleberry 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Men are the ones who allow this type of crap. It’s like shooting someone and then attend their injuries.

[–]sacrello 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's the mullahs enforcing this

[–]LimpneverFail26 40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone is protesting

[–]III_Dingleberry 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m thrilled to see that FDS posted something else. Pls go back to your old ways and roast the scrotes. I’ve learned so much from this sub.

[+]wont_read_wont_reply -13 points-12 points-11 points 3 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Please share sources from Irani women so we can support them. Not white women trying to be heroes when it suits them.

[–]tooschooledforcool 103 points104 points105 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Is it too much to ask to support a community without dragging another community down?

[+]wont_read_wont_reply -56 points-55 points-54 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Nope. I'm sick of the white women coming out to "support" Irani/Muslim women only when it suits them.

[–]tooschooledforcool 40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Investment in a cause really depends on how much the person supporting wants to put. You can’t shit on people for wanting to do what they can, irrespective how small it seems to you. A lot of attention to this cause is important considering the fact that the government is trying to suppress the news. Sharing these videos really helps. I also don’t think white woman are trying to parade around as heroes here. The real heroes are definitely the woman standing up to this cause In I ran and I think even white woman would agree to that. Stop using these movements to air your own grievances. Let’s keep the attention on what we can do

[–]Meowcat_420 58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Are we trying to be “heroes” or are we just genuinely horrified and concerned at what our Muslim sisters are being subjected to?

[–]meowsaremeowing 54 points55 points56 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Please don't listen to that negative person who is insulting you🙏🏾 as an Iranian woman, I appreciate help and kindness from all the people no matter their race. That person is just a bitter mfer who is trying to make the situation about themselves. Please dont care about them. We, Iranian women, need your help the most actually. I beg you to check the MahsaAmini hashtag in twitter, and retweet the informative threads.

[–]cookiekisses_ 15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m in Africa and I’ve retweeted. We got you

[–]meowsaremeowing 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thank you so so soooo much💕💕 we will never ever forget about your kindness❤️

[–]cookiekisses_ 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😍♥️😍

[+]peakok115 -8 points-7 points-6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's okay bro. They do that shit with everything, BLM, Native American awareness groups, etc. literally everything has some random (let me specify that it's the race and not the actual color of their skin) white girl in the suburbs talking about "spread awareness!" on the internet. But has blatantly Islamophobic views in real life. It's actually really annoying and I kinda wish they'd genuinely care about something for once

[–]FemmeLightning 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What would it take for you to believe that a white woman genuinely cares about an issue? What evidence are you looking for?

Because I don’t see any evidence that this woman is being disingenuous, and it seems like you don’t believe that white women can genuinely care about things, which… gross.

[–]peakok115 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hard sometimes for me to take a lot of them on the internet seriously. But I have met a good few that actually do care about things. I can differentiate between people and their views. However, in my experience, I have met plenty that genuinely do not give a shit about stuff like this, and will put their whole heart and soul into making people think they do. I don't really like how people like to pretend this shit doesn't happen as soon as race is bought up. Like, obviously someone's race doesn't determine the type of person they are, it's their environment. But, in the US at least, race and appearance determines exactly how you will grow up and how you will be treated by those around you, as well as what your parents will teach you about other races. So yes, genetics don't determine a person's character, but sadly, the place and manner in which they are raised will.

[–]crookedpot 33 points34 points35 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Ps most persians consoder themselves to be white.

[–]cookiekisses_ 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True

[+]wont_read_wont_reply -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

LOLOLOL

[–]crookedpot 16 points17 points18 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Youre obviously not persian then.

[+]wont_read_wont_reply -6 points-5 points-4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm from a neighbouring country and I've been mistaken as being Irani actually. The closest I've been mistaken to white is Greek, Romania and such but that is rare. Rarely does anyone look at me and see a white woman lol. I guess you're just looking to support someone the closer their proximity to whiteness? And you're not a racist? You proved my point.

[–]doinurgf 26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Especially this girls who’s incredibly racist. For those who don’t know her: she called someone the n word with a hard R and also makes incredibly stupid videos 100% based on buzzfeed articles. Let’s get better sources shall we

[+]wont_read_wont_reply -28 points-27 points-26 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

And not just her either. Where are these white "feminists" when Chinese atheists put Muslim women in concentration camps? Or when whites drop bombs, maim and kill these women? Or when they send their violent minions in? Do these people care when white males attack Muslim women? Or when they're forced to take it off in India?

All of a sudden, they also want to take away the rights of women to wear the headscarf just because it suits their agenda. How about f off and leave Muslim women to decide for themselves?

Let's remember that white women have a strong history of racism and upholding white supremacist ideals alongside their male counterparts.

And yeah, I keep getting downvoted when I mention the hypocrisy of white women "feminism". They must be foaming at the mouth.

But either way, the book "Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race" by Reni Eddo-Lodge has an interesting section on white feminism. Another book on my list is: "White Tears/Brown Scars: How White Feminism Betrays Women of Color" by Ruby Hamad.

[–]Meowcat_420 45 points46 points47 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take away the right to wear a hijab? WHO SAID THAT? This lady was MURDERED for not wearing hers “correctly”

[–]cookiekisses_ 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly. As someone who looks coloured and mixed race but is technically white, I’ve had every racist comment thrown at me so don’t you come here and sprout your nonsense

[–]crookedpot 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Piss off racist scum

[–]MaingurlFDS Apprentice 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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