Did you hear that "women were more likely to be hired in blind auditions for orchestras"? Well, the original paper stated "the effect is not statistically significant".

tiger_woods_is_goat · 2022-09-15T23:31:34+00:00

I'm all for blind auditions. Let true merit work for itself, not bias against women, men, whites, people of color, etc. Same thing goes for bias for the ones the judges know.

duhhhh · 2022-09-15T21:10:17+00:00

Three years after that article they decided it was statistically significant because not enough women and minorities were being hired under blind auditions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/arts/music/blind-auditions-orchestras-race.html

Blind auditions don't allow woke hiring practices.

63daddy · 2022-09-15T21:48:53+00:00

Your points are essentially, correctly saying correlation does not prove cause-effect. There are many reasons why the proportion of women in orchestras has increased and it’s not proof the reason there were fewer was due to discrimination.

I’ll add an additional example: Far fewer men are going into music programs. In part because more women are going to college and in part because young men know they can’t pay off huge college loans and support a family on a musician’s salary.

Bottom line: changing demographics are not proof of discrimination.

rainbow_bro_bot · 2022-09-15T22:57:40+00:00

overall, women did worse in the blinded auditions.

Interesting.

ThisCantBeForReel · 2022-09-15T21:35:37+00:00

Point for the men! Huzzah! What does this make the score again in the ongoing gender war?

Oh uhhh, I mean, quest for mens rights.

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