"Tom Brady And The Selfishness Of Conventional Masculinity" (Warning for Sanity: Buzzfeed)

Angryasfk · 2022-10-26T04:51:10+00:00

It's really about how two professional people didn't quite get along in their private life. I don't see a reason why the writer needs to use words like "toxic", or involve masculinity.

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2022-10-26T11:13:29+00:00

He might not have Giselle but he has football fame and money, and that is a lot less fickle than a woman's affections.

BlockBadger · 2022-10-26T12:11:37+00:00

Anyone else feeling it might be better to use archive links to not give these people clicks?

Angryasfk · 2022-10-26T08:23:44+00:00

I had another look and saw the comments about Ali. Apparently the author didn’t bother to find out that Ali’s Nassau comeback fight (and perhaps his previous one against Larry Homes) was driven by the fact that he’d been fleeced by his manager and needed money fast! The last fight was certainly due to financial necessity, not some “toxic masculinity” ego trip.

Perhaps the guy’ mother has gone to “QANON” because she knows the lies and falsehoods her own son writes!

Angryasfk · 2022-10-26T05:17:27+00:00

What a load of pompous tripe. Does anyone think he would have been married to that “multimillionaire Brazilian fashion model” if he’d not been an NFL star? I mean seriously! Also does anyone seriously think that she does much of the housework? If she does it’s through choice.

And the ultimate issue is this: the guy’s an elite sport star in a very competitive code. Is anyone dim enough to think that you get to that level without such total commitment to training and the game? Or that you get to be a CEO (unless you’re the child of the main shareholder) without that?

I’m also sure you don’t get to be a multimillionaire fashion model without putting everything into your career too. And to pretend that she’s home doing the vacuuming, polishing the floors, and otherwise sacrificing her career so he can be devoted to NFL is utterly ridiculous.

_BlueShark87 · 2022-10-26T03:26:10+00:00

Warning: Rant Ahead Wow. I don’t fucking care if they think I’m selfish. As far as I’m concerned this article was the final nail in the coffin. I’m fully done with society and I’ll watch it burn to the ground with a smile on my face. I tried reasoning with them. I even went into twoX and commented about the 1/6 sexual assault stats being wrong. I gave them stats from RAINN and they don’t care. One in 500 or more? Nah 1/6. I’m so done with society. What’s that African proverb we like so much here? A child that is not embraced by their village will burn it down to feel it’s warmth?

Dr_Hesp · 2022-10-26T20:09:31+00:00

That shit was absolutely written by someone who has zero knowledge of real masculinity. Men thrive off competition. Even in our friendships, we're constantly pushing ourselves and friends to do better. That's how this amazing world (albeit not perfect) was built. The same world that these feminists and simps (another word for 'lowest form of male') benefit from. They don't realize that they're not pushing away bad men, they're pushing away the good men that protect them.

Let these bottom feeders criticize good men all they want. Sooner or later they'll be begging for the return of the true form of masculinity in men. Usually occurs when shit hits the fan and problems need solving.

solar-garlic1776 · 2022-10-26T14:35:11+00:00

What this article does without even knowing it is show that for men we must become, we must push/grind/outwork everyone to achieve personal goals/greatness. Contrast that with Giselle, she was blessed with beauty and that's it.

Another thing this article fails to even mention yet alone possibly comprehend, men (for the most part) are concerned about their legacy. For most it's having child but for people like Brady it's about being the one that everyone is compared to. Think about it, once Brady retires, it's how does this QB or that compare to Brady. Are we having that same convo about Giselle, FUCK NO.

countrymace · 2022-10-27T01:22:33+00:00

It’s interesting how this article takes this issue and frames it as “man harms wife.”

To the extent that society pushes men to be Tom Brady (the ultimate provider, the top in his field), the ones it harms the most is the men. This mentality is fine for some who actually will achieve astronomical success. People who do that make a knowing trade- a life, for success. It’s a gamble that they’ll live long enough to enjoy the benefits of their success and that those benefits will be worth the cost. This is a risky trade for a lot of people. I’m saying this as an attorney who could have made more money and will soon be transitioning out of legal work entirely even though my new business won’t net as much as money as legal work. At a certain point, what can you buy that’s better than your time?

On an individual level, Tom Brady made a bet that has paid off in his eyes. His family knew the terms of that bet. He’s not a martyr, and he isn’t doing this to provide for his family. He also isn’t a villain either: he’s just someone who puts his career first. That’s what he values most, and his wife shouldn’t be surprised by that. If she no longer likes the terms of the bet, she can leave. It’s not like she won’t be more than repaid for the personal cost of his career. If she wanted a family man, then she should have married one.

To go after a career with everything you have is a valid gamble. But it doesn’t pay out for 99% of people. Figure out how much time and effort it will take to have a secure and comfortable life and calibrate your ambitions accordingly. Don’t sacrifice the best parts of life to fulfill societal expectations about gender and career success/ salary.

AbsurdiBear · 2022-10-26T15:30:44+00:00

I mean, even if it's Buzzfeed, I kinda agree with the purpose of this.

Brady is an incredible competitor and a legend in American Football, but that doesn't take away the fact that he is an absent father/husband.

Earlier today I saw a post of a Doctor thanking his wife for her patience since they have been dating since he entered medschool. But when he thanked her for being a good mother, he refered to their kids as hers.

Men need to be held accountable for fatherhood.

I would personally be pissed after supporting my partner through a legacy in sports history until retirement, just for him/her to change his/her mind at the last moment... twice.

Huffers1010 · 2022-10-26T07:51:09+00:00

If it helps, fame sometimes has very limited geographical reach. I've never heard of this guy or his wife.

Title	"Tom Brady And The Selfishness Of Conventional Masculinity" (Warning for Sanity: Buzzfeed)
Author	Heavy_Grand2526
Upvotes	65
Comments	38
Date	October 26, 2022 2:28 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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