Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

a-man-from-earth · 2022-11-05T10:12:04+00:00

It's a good thing that men's issues are getting a larger audience.

steno_light · 2022-11-05T05:19:37+00:00

Author Richard Reeves interview on the latest episode of Real Time.

First how talking about men’s struggles can get you labeled alt-right. Good faith helpers may shy away leading to grifters exploiting vulnerable men. Let’s do everyone a favor and believe that we can discuss and solve women’s problems and men’s problems at the same time.

Then, they discuss the education gap, how it flipped since the 1980s, and how we can reduce it. Mainly focusing on solutions for young and adolescent boys education. More recess, more phys ed, more extracurriculars, more trade schools, more male teachers in early education.

Keep in mind this is still a comedy show and Bill had to do the “back in my day” schtick.

Question by OP: Is there anything that higher education could do to fix the gender gap?

hehimCA · 2022-11-05T16:06:06+00:00

Great to see. Maher has always been critical of feminists. He did a movie a long time ago called Women of the Avocado Jungle or something like that. It was very silly but did poke fun at feminism.

Mysteriousdeer · 2022-11-21T05:20:46+00:00

Just got done reading his book.

He is not anti feminist and it could be argued he is a feminist. He believes in eglatarian measures for both sexes.

Going forward he proposes men participate in roles more traditionally held by women and create more representation within those field. Think more caring roles. He also points out this leads to more success for black boys who are currently class locked; few are moving above the class they are born into.

Beyond this, men in caretaker roles and redefining what masculinity means post patriarchy. Men are still male and they are still masculine. Masculinity though, he argues, is a societal construct and a fragile one. His point is construct the role to be a good one.

I am a man and have felt that this dances on a knifes edge that I haven't been able to define. Men are not the dominant sex in the future, but neither are women. The loss of the role of men in family in community needs to be replaced though. This isn't so much defined where women have had more of a stable role and even expanded their role.

He criticizes the right and the left (I'd put myself on the left). His critique of the right is that they want to go back to a time that no longer exist. His voice mostly dismisses the right as they have no good proposals and no real good way forward.

In such I think his criticisms of the left are more directed and critical, but developed and hopeful. He speaks to those that don't "need to get on track" and could make a difference.

He argues that we have mostly ignored the unique biology of men and the problems that brings. An example is frontal lobe development, which he proposes that men be "red shirted" or held back a year or two before they start kindergarten to match their female peers.

I think reeves comes from a position of a great deal of empathy. He emphasizes egalitarian approaches where appropriate, as seen in the red shirting concept. Reading his book, he outlines consequences of not properly developing 50% of the population as well as not having a role for them to grow into.

It's a challenge to the traditional narrative right now, but this is not pro red pill nor is it challenging feminism necessarily beyond saying equality from the lens of females isn't necessarily a true equality.

edit: after listening to his epilogue, he is actually saying feminism hasn't gone far enough. Equality through a the lens of a female is admittedly my own wording and I need to refrain from saying the book defines it as that.

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Title	Richard Reeves: Of Boys and Men \| Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Author	steno_light
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Date	November 5, 2022 5:14 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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