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How do I get body builder body without roids?

by LiveAFTSOV | September 07, 2017 | askTRP


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Okay so I'm on strong lifts 5x5 and been researching, many dudes who stay on the program do get stronger, but they look exactly the same as when they started.

That is gay

I cant trust youtube videos because they are all on roids. How do I make hypertrophic gains, and get aesthetics, without roids?

Has anyone used 5x5 while adding hypertrophic work outs?

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Title How do I get body builder body without roids?
Author LiveAFTSOV
Upvotes 3
Comments 26
Date 07 September 2017 06:54 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (15 children) | Copy

how do you get it?.....commitment and patience.

a lot of the guys you are seeing have also spent a lot of TIME getting the good physique. you are expecting to see gains within a few months and it just won't happen regardless of what type of program you do.

it will be years for you to be where you want to be. if it were that easy to bulk up and look good, everyone would be hercules because it was so easy. there is no shortcut to this shit. hence why so people either resort to roids to speed up the process, or quit all together because they don't have the patience needed. stick with it, you will get there.

also, don't forget, you look at yourself ALL the time in front of the mirror. the progress/gains you make will be far less noticeable to you. take before pictures. workout and then compare in 6 months. since i started a little over a year ago, i have more people asking me if i work out because i look bigger (to me its barely noticeable - but others, that don't see me on a day to day, NOTICE).

[–]LiveAFTSOV 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I dont understand how people can be stronger than me, yet look scrawnier, and I dont want to be one of those people.

Is it really possible to get this kind of body without using roids, gear, juice, and or TRT/test E?

People on strong lifts 5x5 look skinny, weak, and gay, even though they are strong.

People who train for hypertrophy all look amazing, but they are juiced.

So, how do I get this body If I'm natty? Is such a thing possible?

LIKE FUCK dude this frustrates me to NO end. Strong men look fat. Power lifters look fat.

thnks for the response anyways man

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

its just different types of workout. strong guys do heavy ass weight with low reps (4-6). while usually the guys that are super fit and muscular are doing not as heavy in the 8-12 rep ranges... they are training for strength and stamina, rather than just lifting heavy shit.

you can get to anywhere you want to be, naturally. but a lot of it comes down to diet too. if you are lifting 2 hrs a day for 5-6 days a week and eating like absolute shit, it is going to slow your progress for sure. you can eat well, take some supplements and be on your way. just gonna take years to get to shredded. its a major commitment and life style change to get what you are seeking. not just lifting for a few months.

[–]hatefulreason1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

here i was thinking you want to gain 30 pounds of muscle and you post a picture of a "that is gay" and "scrawny" ...

[–]LiveAFTSOV 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Naw brah, dude looks ripped. He looks strong. I do not want to look like a bear

[–]Nucka574 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Do you know anything about UFC? Dudes cut like 20-25 lbs in a week or two before a fight, they don't look like that for long. Fighting also is incredibly difficult and it's literally his job to be that fit. Doing a 5 minute round is intense.

[–]metric_units1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

20 to 25 lb ≈ 9 to 11 kg

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[–]Westernhagen1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know that photo is staged, right? He doesn't just stand around looking like that all the time.


There’s a reason they call “photoshoot ready” – “photoshoot ready”, and not “my condition all the time”.

While the look in photoshoots is attainable – if only for a brief moment in time – it’s not maintainable 24/7. Not only did my condition take 8 months’ worth of extreme dedication to accomplish it, I had to dehydrate myself and eat next to nothing for 24 hours in order to dry out and an hour to pump back up. The actual condition I was in during the exact moments the pictures were taken is a fabrication. You can’t look like that full time – at least not if you want to be healthy.

I used to idolize fitness coaches. I looked at their pictures and yearned to “look like that”. I desired the “superhero” physique – the defined 6-pack, thick pecs, broad shoulders, and bulging yoke. Ironically, now that I am a fitness coach, I’m happier with my body as a constant work in progress and I don’t need the validation of these pictures.

[–]Lululucaz 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy


[–]sneakpeekbot1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]bornredd0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

That guy trains for UFC as his full time job. McGregor says that his training schedule leaves him no free time - and he has a personal chef for 5-6 meals per day.

Assuming they are natty (maybe, maybe not), can you spend 6-9 hours a day on the variety of training necessary to get that body? To get it, you will have to give up everything else. Especially nonclean food. Midsections like that are 99% diet.

Hell, I once read that McGregor's cheat meal was a small chicken pizza. That was his luxury when it comes to food.

[–]LiveAFTSOV0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

it's worth the sacrafice, ive already given up processed foods

[–]bornredd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Then get ready to spend 30 hours+ a week training and lifting forthe next 10+ years.

[–]duruga0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Not true. UFC fighters need to have strength and insane stamina, plus lots of training with highly aerobic charge (kickboxing, juijitsu, ...) which hurts muscle development.

A bodybuilder does not need to train so much aerobic, not even have that much stamina. If you are young and train 1 hour a day (train, not go to the gym to socialize), eat abundant and clean and get at least 9 hours of sleep a day, you can have close to that body in 2 years.

[–]WISE_TURD2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Man, the amount of time that could be spent on this topic is exhausting.

Check out these youtube channels: alan thrall, athleanx, fitnessfaq, and calisthenicsmovement.

Calisthenics while continuing to use weights for my legs has proven to be very effective.

[–]PapiHerm2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's not going to happen over night. It takes years to do. I've been lifting for 6 years and natty. this is me.

One good tip I always tell people is to be consistent. Consistent in your nutrition, supplements, and of course workouts.

I don't go for strength. I am not a powerlifter. I'm a bodybuilder. We go for volume. You need to leave your ego at the door. There are many people at the gym stronger than me, but they don't look better than me.

[–]LiveAFTSOV 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

8 - 12 reps? Like what do u do bro for volume. I'm staying on strong lifts but gonna add hypertrophy

[–]PapiHerm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yea bro 8-15 reps. I do go for strength, but only on the main body compound lifts. (I.e. Bench press, squats, deadlifts.)

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Haven't we all heard of those people that deadlift double their bodyweight and look the same as when they started?

Fucking retarded bullshit.

[–]LiveAFTSOV 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Dude weighs 165, dead lifts 365, and looks about the same as when he started DL at 265


[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

when he started DL at 265

Clearly a beginner

[–]LordThunderbolt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Once you get actually strong and I mean real real strong where you catch people miring, switch to a hypertrophy program or just add accessory work to your 5x5 AND do calisthenics in your off days.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You should put in 5 years of perfect diet & training before you even consider gear.

[–]quicklogaccount0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You work out a lot and eat decently.

You'll take longer than roided guys and your body will take so long to break some thresholds and respond you'll probably think it's impossible. You'll certainly not be as big as you could on roids.
That put that's still big enough for most non pros.

[–]refusewool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Try the Reddit linear progression based PPL routine. I made big hypertrophic gains using that programme following on from SL 5x5. If you start maxing out in strength, change to a 531 based progression.

[–]SoloAlbum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I highly recommend you read Bigger Leaner Stronger, and get your T levels tested. Maximize T with proper diet/sleep/exercise/supplements.

  • Stop masturbating (Seriously)
  • Compound lifts (Stronglifts 5x5 is a great place to start)
  • Get lots of protein
  • Lift 3 times a week with at least 1 recovery day after lifting
  • Keep researching and optimizing for best results
  • Do all of this for 3+ years

To summarize, you get big from tearing your muscles with short/heavy sets of explosive lifts. Protein + rest will repair the tears and make you bigger. Strength comes naturally, but size requires constant repair. This is why you can be small and strong, typically these guys are concentrating on long exhaustion sets and haven't optimized their macros.

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