Leaving this subreddit.

EmirikolWoker · 2023-02-14T15:43:24+00:00

I later made another post which is now deleted, asking people how hating feminism links this subreddit and how I felt about it, but it got downvoted to hell within a couple of minutes and the comments weren't really welcoming my opinion either.

This post? You got two comments, both of which were addressing the flaws in your argument. Did you want a crowd of yes-men telling you that you're right, or did you want an honest discussion?

Call me an idiot again but I just do not think waging gender wars or hating people will bring us any closer to egalitarianism

If the hate is as prominent as you seem to think, you should have no trouble evidencing it.

veedub447 · 2023-02-14T16:04:37+00:00

I Don't understand the need for a long diatribe going back to your childhood. You're a feminist. You don't like it here, so you are leaving.

ApplicationClassic19 · 2023-02-14T16:09:27+00:00

Thank you for announcing this, sure we'd have noticed your absence anyway, but it's better to know that you're gone.

I strongly support this idea of announcing when we leave subs.

Ferbuggity · 2023-02-14T15:46:10+00:00

Bye, Felicia.

You do kind of require a bit of a thick skin in here, and/or the ability to tell an idiot from an informed opinion. And like, ignore the idiots. Or mock them.

Kooky-Lifeguard5071 · 2023-02-14T15:53:12+00:00

Be the change you wanna see in the world

henriquesr · 2023-02-14T18:05:14+00:00

This is not an airport, there's no need to announce your departure.

TheNerdiestAnarchist · 2023-02-14T16:12:12+00:00

Well come back when you grow up a bit and learn from your mistakes.

rationalguyforsure · 2023-02-14T16:35:12+00:00

I really don’t see any hate speech here. I do see a lot of handwringing about it from people who apparently don’t care about men’s rights. But labeling your opponents evil names, and accusing them of “hate speech”, is the purview of leftists. It gets old. The real hate speech and the real behavioral hatred comes from the Left. Feminists are hateful in my experience.

General-Teacher5865 · 2023-02-14T17:14:43+00:00

If you're in mensrights you get banned on any feminist sub when you post here but yet here we are letting you share your opinions regardless of how dumb or radical they might be. Thing is, whenever we get a post like this it's always some moron who just can't back up their arguments or they're just a concern troll. So with all due respect, Good riddance.

Fantastic_Box3257 · 2023-02-14T17:17:35+00:00

You say you were a feminist but came to realize that jobs and exams are not just based on merit but gender plays a role to make disparity ,if that wouldn't have happened ,you got selected then ?

You would have still believed that bs and slander men

Now you come here saying men should do this and that ,why is everything that men need to do ,earlier feminist want men to teach boys to respect girls rather it should be respect someone worthy of respect irrespective of gender

Now you want men to understand,not say anything,not hate ,so we just quietly as we did and let them walkover ,means people facing disparity should understand ,now the feminist actually causing this

You are a feminist only who didn't get the benefits of a woman thus wanting other men to praise you

No men here express to get validation ,we just rant here because we know feminist are ignorant not by nature but by choice and however logic is spit ,they will just say men are privileged

You need validation that is not available here

PactScharp · 2023-02-14T17:57:49+00:00

So glad these sanctamonious concern trolls are leaving this sub. I am so sick of them.

randomguy7277 · 2023-02-14T19:55:25+00:00

Wow I didn’t realize this was an airport where you announce your departure

Educational_Bet_6606 · 2023-02-14T17:21:50+00:00

Yea many modern females have gone hateful. And insane.

denisc9918 · 2023-02-14T17:50:51+00:00

Oh no, don't go.. OMG..

63daddy · 2023-02-14T18:19:38+00:00

Bye.

Subject-Camel2801 · 2023-02-14T18:47:00+00:00

Yeah I call complete bullshit. Show some actual evidence because this sub is NOTHING like what you describe. Of course there are going to be some sexist guys on here (who are usually downvoted into oblivion), but the majority of men on here are just trying to advocate for a level playing field.

ApprehensiveMail8 · 2023-02-14T21:39:14+00:00

Goodbye.

Unfortunately, this is a pretty common course of action taken by people who really don't understand why we are here in the first place and who were perhaps in need of help but not ready to offer the same to others. Perhaps we can create some sort of post outlining this but I'll try my best to explain it:

We are here to stand up for men's rights. It is a very basic mission, and for that reason it will never really be "done". That's okay.

People in need will always need advocates. Criminals will always need defense attorneys, women will always need women's rights activists and men will always need men's rights activists.

Hopefully, it's not always the *same* people in need. But it will always be someone. There will always be people right at the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs who need someone to reach out and pull them up.

Until the judgement day. We are here for those who need us. And to be here for those who need us means meeting those men where they are at.

But meeting THEM where they are at does not mean meeting where YOU would like to be, necessarily. There are times I have to take breaks from this sub just for the sake of my own sanity because it can be intense. Or because I want to work on some things that are much higher up that pyramid of needs.

But this sub is not going to go with me on those journeys because it is not what we are. We are NOT a self-help movement here to teach men to do better, to come across as pleasant, to unilaterally forgive those who infringe upon men's rights, or to promote the men's rights movement for it's own sake at the expense of compromising on the whole point of it.

There are other subs and causes and places out there where you can do some or all of these things. For example, if you are looking to hone your peacemaking and message-crafting skills I would highly recommend r/NVC. Or just going to Church. Or anger management.

But if you choose to be here *please* do not concern troll. You can tell you are concern trolling when you use phrases like "venting" to describe the concerns of other men or you feel compelled to tone police.

"Venting" makes it sound superfluous. It's not. To be heard and validated when in pain is one of the most basic of needs. And to say anything at all - even if it sounds like "hate"- when you are in pain, frustrated, and unheard is a big step forward.

Perhaps these very basic needs are met for you. Good for you. Please continue your personal journey elsewhere. And come back when you are able to meet other men, who aren't as far up that pyramid as you right now, where they are at. Not where you would like to be.

And there will *always* be men who aren't as far up that pyramid as you.

The fact that the basic work of defending men's rights is never done does not mean it is not worth doing.

Peace.

Title	Leaving this subreddit.
Author	YourBoyZeus
Upvotes	0
Comments	38
Date	February 14, 2023 3:40 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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