Research shows: Support for feminist goals is hampered by a dislike of feminists.

truthjusticeca · 2013-09-26T18:08:36+00:00

We should learn from their mistakes and not emulate them.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-09-26T18:15:47+00:00

The solution then is obviously to shame people for disliking feminists. Call them misogynists or rape apologists.

2013-09-26T20:27:19+00:00

One thing to note, though - doing surveys via Mechanical Turk is going to heavily skew your statistics. It's not a random sample at all; the Mechanical Turk demographics is very much not representative of people as a whole.

EvilPundit · 2013-09-26T18:19:16+00:00

Comments are open. My comment on the article:

In the case of feminists, it's very obvious that they really do hate men. Their ideology blames men for all the problems in the world, and everything they do focuses on helping women and hurting men.

So it's not surprising that well-informed men, and women who don't hate men, tend to reject feminists.

With regard to zealots in general, many of them are hostile and dismissive toward people who don't share their beliefs. This contributes greatly to the way they are seen by others.

euneaux · 2013-09-26T18:21:29+00:00

28 Americans recruited via Amazon’s Mechanical Turk—described both varieties of activists in “overwhelmingly negative” terms. The most frequently mentioned traits describing “typical feminists” included “man-hating” and “unhygienic;” for “typical environmentalists,” they included “tree-hugger” and “hippie.” Another study, featuring 17 male and 45 female undergraduates, confirmed the pervasiveness of those stereotypes. It further found participants were less interested in befriending activists who participated in stereotypical behavior (such as staging protest rallies), but could easily envision hanging out with those who use “nonabrasive and mainstream methods” such as raising money or organizing social events.

What conclusions should we draw?

If Men's Rights Activists are to be effective, they need to adopt different approaches from those of feminists.

Men's Rights Activists are already at a handicap, because men complaining in order to demand concessions are perceived as weak, ineffective and unattractive. To achieve objectives, the men's activists will need to sell there agenda more persuasively and from a position of confident strength.

If we view it as a challenge from the perspective of Briffault's Law, men will need to offer something compelling that appeals to the interests of the powers needed to compromise. A potentially effective approach might be to leverage expectations of male gallantry and selflessness - perhaps by showing how having the pendulum swung too far in the new order actually harms women's and family interests indirectly. Furthermore appealing to mothers of sons might be an avenue to mobilize broader support.

The article questions the value of protests and public demonstrations. The evidence is not unequivocal; there are plenty of examples that feminists making a stink are able to pressure institutions to act according to their demands. I am less optimistic about institutional willingness to take pity on the "poor men." So indeed these tactics may prove worse than useless. So, what direct action can be undertaken? Perhaps instead of sitting and standing around passively and screaming that the powerful need to act to fulfill our objectives, we could just get busy and constructively start working to achieve our goals? What kind of constructive projects do you think might work?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-09-26T19:52:20+00:00

So does this make feminists allies of the Patriarchy?

2013-09-27T00:40:19+00:00

The most frequently mentioned traits describing “typical feminists” included “man-hating” and “unhygienic;” for “typical environmentalists,” they included “tree-hugger” and “hippie.”

Sounds more like a valid generalization as opposed to a stereotype. lol

Sounds like the researchers are confused about why people do not want to adopt the misandry from mainstream feminism.

Number357 · 2013-09-27T04:33:42+00:00

"Support for KKK goals is hampered by a dislike of racists"

2013-09-26T18:03:59+00:00

Good news, then.

Title	Research shows: Support for feminist goals is hampered by a dislike of feminists.
Author	euneaux
Upvotes	33
Comments	17
Date	September 26, 2013 6:00 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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