TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

  • Subreddits

      Popular

    • /r/askTRP
    • /r/TheRedPill
    • /r/MarriedRedPill
    • /r/MensRights
    • /r/MGTOW
    • /r/PurplePillDebate
    • /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen
    • Other

    • /r/AllPillDebate
    • /r/AlreadyRed
    • /r/altTRP
    • /r/AntiFeminists
    • /r/askFDS
    • /r/askMRP
    • /r/askRPC
    • /r/becomeaman
    • /r/BlackPillScience
    • /r/Chadfish
    • /r/Divorce_Men
    • /r/EverydayMisandry
    • /r/ExRedPill
    • /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
    • /r/FeminismStopsWhen
    • /r/GEOTRP
    • /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
    • /r/MalePsychology
    • /r/Male_Studies
    • /r/MenSupportMen
    • /r/MGTOW2
    • /r/MuslimRedPill
    • /r/newTRP
    • /r/PussyPass
    • /r/PussyPassDenied
    • /r/RedPillBooks
    • /r/RedPillParenting
    • /r/RedPillWives
    • /r/RedPillWomen
    • /r/RedPillWorkplace
    • /r/RPChristians
    • /r/seduction
    • /r/ThankTRP
    • /r/TheRedPillStories
    • /r/trpGAME
    • /r/TRPOffTopic
    • /r/TrueBlackPillMGTOW
    • /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre
  • Blogs

      Popular

    • Dalrock
    • Heartiste
    • Illimitable Men
    • Return of Kings
    • Rian Stone
    • The Rational Male
    • Woujo
    • Other

    • Artful Prudence
    • A Voice for Men
    • Alpha Game
    • Black Label Logic
    • Caleb Jones
    • Captain Capitalism
    • Corporate Machiavelli
    • Days of Game
    • Deep Strength
    • Dicipres
    • Donal Graeme
    • Female Misogynist
    • Free Northerner
    • Gaming My Wife
    • Good Looking Loser
    • Hawaiian Libertarian
    • In Mala Fide
    • KillToParty
    • Kill Your Inner Loser
    • Krauser PUA
    • LaidNYC
    • Married Man Sex Life
    • NO MA'AM
    • Omega Virgin Revolt
    • Pook's Mill
    • Random Xpat Rantings
    • Red Pill Theory
    • Red Pill Wifery
    • RedPillDad
    • RedPillDoctor
    • Seasons of Tumult and Discord
    • Sigma Frame
    • The Feminine Woman
    • The Futurist
    • The Masculine Principle
    • The Modern Man
    • The New Modern Man
    • The Obsidian Files
    • The Power Moves
    • The Private Man
    • The Red Pill Room
    • The Red Quest
    • The Rules Revisited
    • The Spearhead
    • Troy Francis
    • Wintery Knight
    • Young Man Red Pill
  • Books
  • Dictionary
  • @TRParchive
  • Please help TheRedArchive stay alive

Junior doctor's career is in ruins after he is convicted of indecent assault for grabbing Tinder date's breasts during CONSENSUAL sex

furchfur

October 11, 2017
113 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4969900/Doctor-s-indecent-assault-conviction-CONSENSUAL-sex.html
Download the post

Want to save the post for offline use on your device? Choose one of the download options below:

PDF TXT EPUB
Share
Share Tweet Reddit Email
Post Information
Title Junior doctor's career is in ruins after he is convicted of indecent assault for grabbing Tinder date's breasts during CONSENSUAL sex
Author

furchfur

Upvotes 113
Comments 32
Date October 11, 2017 1:18 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/75ozq0/junior_doctors_career_is_in_ruins_after_he_is/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/junior-doctors-career-is-in-ruins-after-he-is.1175008
https://theredarchive.com/post/1175008
Top posts by furchfur

UK: Innocent student wrongly accused of rape calls for anonymity for sex assault defendants until they are found guilty.

17408 upvotes
December 18, 2017
/r/MensRights

Thousands of dads are left in shock as DIY paternity tests soar. Up to 30,000 tests are being performed every year, says Alphabiolabs. In the UK about 750,000 babies are born every year. Feminists want the test to be illegal without the written consent of the mother.

4746 upvotes
January 13, 2019
/r/MensRights

Male rape survivors tell of their battle to have their voices heard after being told ‘men are the attackers, women are the victims’

4394 upvotes
April 14, 2017
/r/MensRights

16yo female 'prodigy' developer's app was actually written by a male programmer.

4210 upvotes
February 6, 2018
/r/PussyPassDenied

Mother-of-two, 40, falsely branded a neighbour a sex offender because he 'made too much noise building a guinea pig hutch in his garden'. It seems for many women if they do not get their way they make a false sex allegation knowing a man is not protected by the law.

3937 upvotes
March 4, 2019
/r/MensRights

Female British YouTube vlogger accuses Dublin hotel of bullying her after it refused her request to stay there for free and posted their scathing response saying she 'lacked dignity' online

3871 upvotes
January 18, 2018
/r/PussyPassDenied

Nearly 500 men and boys are freed from 'house of torture' Islamic boarding school where they were chained up, raped by staff and starved 'in the name of teaching them the Koran' in Nigeria. OP: We will see how much media coverage this gets.

3825 upvotes
September 27, 2019
/r/MensRights

Teenager, 18, who lied that ex-boyfriend drugged and raped her after he refused to rekindle their romance is convicted of wasting police time

3747 upvotes
May 29, 2018
/r/MensRights

Comments

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Good looking Guy, Bright Future, Very intelligent, going to be a Doctor...

To bad he was not a female that tried to murder her partner and stab them, he would have gotten off with a slap on the wrist.

Attempted Murder - Woman get off with slap on the wrist Rough Sex - Man get 5 years in jail

Not a sexist Justice system at all. /s

[–]BigAl265 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's a whataboutism, it has no bearing on this case. Of course the justice system is heavily biased against men, and little miss boyfriend stabber should have absolutely been punished to the fullest extent possible, but the answer isn't to dismiss male violence. From what little info we have, it sounds like this guy roughed this woman up during sex, even after she told him to stop. Assuming that's the truth, that's not okay, and saying he should get off scott free just because of another gross injustice is wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right, so to speak.

[–]Aivias 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So its not ok to assume the woman is lying but its totally fine to assume the man is?

This case has reasonable doubt, ergo a conviction should never have happened.

[–]Jmart1000 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where do you train to become a white knight?

[–]davidrexs43 points 8 years ago [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link

He was convicted for repeatedly grabbing her breast and pulling her hair after he'd been asked not to. So it seems a pretty fair case for sexual assault. Consenting to sex doesn't mean consent to do whatever you want.

[–]elebrin 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Forgive me if I've been doing it wrong, but isn't there supposed to be some touching of the sensitive bits during sex? I mean if not... then holy shit. I'm in some trouble.

[+]Catrocantor 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

touching, fondling, caressing are A-ok. Bruises don't come from touching, fondling, or caressing though. If your causing your partner pain and they tell you to stop wouldn't you stop? You want them to feel good or at least you should. Presuming your in a healthy relationship.

[–]overly_optimistic_ox 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

True, but let’s not ruin his promising career because they were both drunk, he was probably used to rougher sex, it was consensual and he was remorseful right after the act

[–]lifeiscooliguess 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't really matter if he's drunk, or what he's used to. Someone tells you not to do something during sex you don't do it, it's that simple.

[–]AnotherDAM 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

herpa derp.

Someone does something you do not like during sex and doesn't take a hint - you get up and leave.

"he kept grabbing my breasts when I told him not to" -- "so why did you stay?" -- "oh, other than that I was really enjoying myself"

Seriously WTF? If she wasn't enjoying herself why didn't she leave? If she tried to leave and he restrained her then it is RAPE; otherwise it is just her own stupidity.

[–]lifeiscooliguess 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This response tells me you didn't even read the article. After she withdrew consent for him to touch her breasts and he did it again she went to the washroom and noticed the bruising, which upset her understandably. Maybe she would have let it go had there been no damage, who knows? It doesn't matter anyways she communicated to him that she didn't like it and he did it anyways, that's sexual assault. At no point in the article does it mention rape so I'm not sure why you even brought that up except to show you didn't read it

[–]AnotherDAM 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, it isn't sexual assault. It is two young people learning the dynamics of sexuality. When you encounter a partner who does things you do not like you MOVE ON, you don't whinge about minor things.

In high school we had to do a large variety of different physical activities. When I was beaned in the leg with a softball and got a bruise I didn't go whining to the police that the pitcher assaulted me.

If this young lady wants to have sex with random strangers (or even people who she has minimally vetted) that is her right - but if she is going to cry to some authority each and every time that person goes beyond her boundaries then I cannot muster a single atom of give-a-fuck.

[–]lifeiscooliguess 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No real point in continuing a discussion with someone that uses a false equivalence as his main argument. Please don't have sex with women if this is how you think.

[–]AnotherDAM -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

false equivalence...

Just because you heard someone use a phrase does not mean you have mastered it (clearly you haven't, you simply like using the phrase as a club to "beat" people with whom you disagree similar to the way you attempt to shame with the "please don't have sex" phrase).

The fact that you have to resort to such lame rhetorical devices only demonstrates that you are the one who shouldn't be participating in a discussion (albeit, you don't discuss - you form an opinion and attack anyone who disagrees).

For your education - equivalences do not need to be identical, only similar enough. In my case I described a situation where I voluntarily participated in an activity and was injured with malicious intent by someone in a way similar to that described. The malicious intent actually makes my story worse as we have no way of knowing if the man's intent was actually malicious or merely accidental.

But, since you are slow and since you are clearly interested in my sex life - let me give you a more nearly identical situation:

I like fairly athletic sex and rough play. I do not like getting scratched. Sometimes I get "war wounds" in the form of fairly deep claw marks on my back. I don't like it, I tell my partners I don't like it; the women I am with know this but sometimes it happens. So, a partner has wounded me in a way I do not like - should I go running to the police? No - because part of the pleasure of sex is the spontaneity and the ability to "lose control".

In no rational universe was this woman "sexually assaulted" let alone actually assaulted.

The only thing she is a victim of is bad judgement, or possibly bad parenting.

[–]xcross69 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there a record on that? Or just her word?

She has a vagina so she never lies, isn't it?

[–]biff64gc 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

There's no proof other than some bruising which only proves rough sex. It's completely he said she said and innocent until proven guilty should prevail. Instead the judge picked a side based purely on personal recounts even with alcohol involved and destroyed someone's life.

[–]davidrexs1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Where does it say there is no other proof?

[–]biff64gc 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

When the judge states they found her to be truthful and honest and him to be dishonest. Nothing indicating why they felt that way. Nothing indicating why her story is true and his isn't outside of maybe how they presented themselves. It's just as likely he just wanted a one night stand and she was pissed she got used and made the claim of saying he abused her since she had some marks.

Without evidence you simply don't know what transpired.

[–]davidrexs1 points 8 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Look at the court docs if you can find them, they might reveal what led to them thinking she was honest and he was not.

[–]biff64gc 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good point. I am judging based off the news article which probably not the best idea.

[–]xcross69 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So what do we do with women that break a man's penis during sex then? Death row?

Oh no, that would be an accident cause she has a vagina... isn't it?

Also this is also only her word... But she only speaks the truth cause vagina, isn't it? I wonder if anyone checked her tinder account and activity... Possibly just got pissed cause doctor ignored her the next day...

And on the other hand a few weeks ago a female doctor that stabbed her boyfriend did not go to jail cause judge said "she has a promising future", meanwhile this poor bastard will have his life ruined cause of having a penis...

And women wonder why men go their own way...

[–]mwobuddy -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGn25URIss8

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

During the sex, the doctor grabbed the woman's breasts, causing bruising

[...]

Philip Queree, 37, was taken to court for repeatedly grabbing the woman's breasts and pulling her hair while the couple had intercourse.

[...]

Despite consenting to having sex with Queree, the victim told him she did not want her breasts touched and accused him of using 'excessive force'.

So not consensual?

OTOH, it is The Daily Mail, so God only knows if a word they're saying here is true.

But even by their outraged version, there was a lot of non-consensual activity going on in this consensual encounter.

[–]hatefulreason 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

he shouldn't be convicted as it would ruin his promising career right ? wasn't that the verdict with the young med student girl who killed her boyfriend?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Attempted to Murder him....

Thankfully he lived.

This is a glaring double started of the UK (In)Justice System,.

[–]Egalai 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Stabbed, don’t lie or exaggerate about other incidents it only makes us all look bad ffs

[–]hatefulreason 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i scroll through a lotta shite on the internet, don't expect me to remember details :)

[–]rg57 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree and disagree.

Rather than consent, the most important fact should be harm. And he plainly did harm her (slightly), so that's where I start. If there is no harm, I don't think ANY case should go to court.

THEN I move to the consent question, as a defence, And she plainly did not consent to that either. And there's no claim that this was the result of an accident. He did it on purpose.

I agree with the sentence, but not the post-sentence punishment (which ought to be unconstitutional) Even if the registry was useful, and legal, this person shouldn't be on it.

And NO accuser should have the right to remain anonymous. Courts are a function of the public's government, and identity is critical to monitoring how they are being used or abused.

Certainly the men in the area need to know that this woman in particular should not have her breasts grabbed during otherwise typical sex.

[–]asillyduck_ 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is still only the start of the ramp up of the crazy.

[–]inibrius 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't feel bad for this idiot. She said don't grab her tits, he did. She said don't pull her hair, he did. She SHOULD have just slapped him in the balls and left. But whatever. Litigious society and all.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While there's an element of "she said/he said" in this case, it's pretty easy to grasp that consenting to sex isn't an open ended consent to anything the other person feels like doing to you.

[–]mrwhibbley 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she told him not to touch her breasts, or not be so rough, and he continued the mm he is at fault.

Browse all authors
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter