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Scotland Yard abandons policy of automatically believing rape accusers

Folderol_46 · 2018-04-02T10:12:17+00:00

Don't know if this really is a PPD, but it looks like common sense may have gained a toe hold in the Met....

Folderol_46

April 2, 2018

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Title	Scotland Yard abandons policy of automatically believing rape accusers
Author	Folderol_46
Upvotes	688
Comments	56
Date	April 2, 2018 10:12 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
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I’m not British, but historically for women it’s much more like... That guy raped that girl- you horrible, evil slut. Get out of this house now and figure out how to make it in the world. No skills? No husband will have you because you’re socially labeled a whore? Enjoy your life as a street prostitute. God forbid you got pregnant from a rape. It was just 10 times worse. Historically women have always had to bear the brunt of sexual and domestic violence in silence and little or no protection.

I fully get it that women to level false rape charges are despicaple. Those women should face severe charges for that. They should reap what they sow. You can’t use the law as a weapon and file false charges. I also agree that women who engage in wiling sexual behavior after drinking and regret it is very differ than predatory behavior when a woman in plied with alcohol or slipped drugs.

The thing is we, as a society need to stop viewing people as a commodity to sold, fucked, traded, used, whatever. We are human. And until we can see that in each other the worst of humanity will probably win out

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What people mean by “rape culture” is that societally we set up barriers for victims of rape (both sexes) to prevent them from reporting it. Or we treat it as a non-crime. When I’m sitting at my job completing my state mandated safety training (everything from using a vpn to secured areas) and one of the topics is legitimately about protecting myself from rapists by watching my alcohol consumption that is rape culture. My job has nothing to do with alcohol consumption or sexual violence. It’s a little tsk tsk to me about my behavior that is none of my employers business and how they believe I should act. Second, I don’t recall any other tips being given out like don’t go walking alone in the middle of the night in the crappy part of town if you don’t want to get murdered. The point is that when it comes to rape, time and time again the onus is put on the victim to avoid rape and not on the perpetrator to not commit rape or to face the consequences for committing rape. A robbery doesn’t happen if a robber isn’t present and willingly committing a crime. A murder isn’t happening if a murderer isn’t present and committing a crime. A rape is t happening unless a rapist is present a committing a crime.

We think of things like country music as being fairly sweet, innocent, and encompassing American values. My husband likes this song called Everclear and I fucking hate it. In the song the man sings gleefully about being In love with a particular girl so he slips Everclear in her drink to make her easy. But she passed out so he just left her laying on her front lawn. Everything about that screams rape. He did not have consent in anyway. Singing about and making money off it and saying it’s just a song...that’s rape culture. It values those things over what real human beings experience every single day.

Those are just anecdotes but if you’re going to say there isn’t a rape culture show me how that is possible when we live in a world where we treat each other as commodities.

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Maybe in that rape is actually illegal? A chargeable offence with a hefty amount of jail time but no, it's COMPLETELY socially acceptable you say.

Your also completely ignoring that rapists don't care if rape is illegal or not, fucking hell everyone knows it's wrong if they haven't been living underneath a rock for the last 20 years.

This is paramount to someone trying to rape you and you telling them mid act it's against the law. You can't control the aggressor in this scenario, you can only help the potential victims take counter measures, like not drinking alcohol, fucking hell your companies trying to help you avoid it.

It continues to baffle me that people say we live in a rape culture, when the west can almost be considered to be the anti-thesis of it, men's lives thrown away over a baseless accusation.

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It IS due to the influx of "asian" terrorist gangs, yes.

Sure, i agree that women don't have nearly enough agency in western countries, especially America. For these women, things just "happen" to them, and some refuse to acknowledge any role or responsibility. It's actually the opposite in Muslim countries - the women have all the agency and the men have none. The men "cant control" themselves when they see an underdressed woman so what they do next isnt their fault, its actually the woman who is the perpetrator and temptress.

Anyway, ask yourself, why are the police coming out with a big statement about not believing rape claimants out of hand? Because of the large number of false rape allegations? No, this is in the wake of one of the largest human tracking and rape gang busts in England and is, to me, a move designed to deter legitimate rape victims from coming forwards. Out of the thousands of trafficked victims, a couple dozen did come to the police, and they, before this policy was implimented were not believed.

But Scotland Yard doesnt like how it makes them look when legitimate rape victims come forward and they do nothing. They hope that this policy will decrease those rape reports and keep their crime numbers a little lower.

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