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Danish circumcision ban to go to parliament

Imnotmrabut

July 22, 2018
209 upvotes
/r/MensRights

https://www.thelocal.dk/20180601/danish-circumcision-ban-to-go-to-parliament/amp?__twitter_impression=true

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Title Danish circumcision ban to go to parliament
Author

Imnotmrabut

Upvotes 209
Comments 32
Date July 22, 2018 8:11 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/90wcle/danish_circumcision_ban_to_go_to_parliament/
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Comments

[–]Cristi_Tanase 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not even the ultra "progressive" Scandinavians dare to protect young male babies from body mutilations...

Trust me, this law will not gonna pass... just as the Ireland law it will be deemed "Islamophobic/Antisemitic" and that's that.

[–]TheDirtFarmer 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol typical

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think experienced people believe it will pass.

But we (I at least) want to see how far it goes, baby step by baby step one day it'll make enough controversy to be seen as a real issue.

So no hopes for a pass here, but solid hope that they'll remind people as much as possible that this subject is grade A "loss of faith in humanity" material.

[–][deleted] 8 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Imnotmrabut[S] 39 points40 points41 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Misandry and Male Disposability.

I still can't understand why Mumsnet has not been apoplectic over research that shows the gender bias for US boys dying from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (S.I.D.S.) is directly correlated to circimcision.

Countries without the mass fashion of MGM don't have the spike of male deaths.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Countries without the mass fashion of MGM don't have the spike of male deaths.

Link?

[–]Imnotmrabut[S] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

MNC explained 14.2% of the variability of SIDS's male bias in the US, reminiscent of the Jewish myth of Lilith, the killer of infant males.

Adversarial childhood events are associated with Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS): an ecological study

Eran Elhaik

doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/339465

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's racism, plain and simple, white people circumcise boys, so that's A-OK, only brown people circumcise women, so that's alien and unusual and dangerous and definitely wrong.

[+]Akesgeroth -16 points-15 points-14 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Because, quite frankly, female genital mutilation is way more damaging. However, the principle remains the same: They're both wrong for the same reasons.

[–]chaircushion 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yesterday someone posted an article that stated that there are 4 different kinds of FGM and the most commonly used version is more damaging than the MGM.

[–]PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

link?

[–]chaircushion 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Link

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why?

Do you think male sexual pleasure is less important than female sexual pleasure?

[–]Akesgeroth -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why? Do you think babies should be killed?

There, now we both made completely baseless assumptions about each other meant more to try and demonize the other than to actually ask a legitimate question.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Scandinavians show once again that they're the only part of Europe that is actually progressive

[–]thrway_1000 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Won't do anything as most politicians are wimps that are only concerned with getting reelected.

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes, the right thing to do is not the easy thing to do. Now is one of those times.

[–]rachelmadcow1 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes!

[–]ElectricalMadness 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How relevant.

Best of luck to you.

[–]Mhrby 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Deleted my old comment - I made a mistake.

I commented that as a Dane, I could report that they dismissed this suggestion from the population.

I misremembered and it was another suggestion from the population that I had signed and supported that was dismissed immediately, they are actually still deliberating on this one.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that out while trying to find a source for my earlier false claim of it having been dismissed.

[–]93re2 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you know the specifics of the Danish FGM law passed in 2003? Does it prohibit all forms of FGM?

[–]Mhrby 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Had to do a bit of research, as that puzzled me, as I knew FGM was illegal since I was a little boy, so why a law on it in 2003.

Found the law changes passed in 2003 including a summary of purpose, I'll translate below:

The primary purpose of the proposed changes of law is to make it possible to lawfully punish Danish Citizens and people with residense in Denmark, who performs or contributes to the circumcision of girls and young womens external genitals, even if the specific act is not punishable according to the law of the country, where it is performed.

So it was just to make sure people did not travel, or send their young girl children on travels, out of the country to have FGM performed. Also it made changes so the one performing the act is punished, not just the parents who request the procedure.

These are all supporting laws and paragraphs to the primary law, §245 & §245a, so that performing or getting them performed in another country still leads to punishment, so that would mean that if the MGM proposal leads to changes to $245 & 245a, making them gender neutral, then sending a boy out of the country to have MGM performed would still be punishable, by up to 6 years in prison, which is the current possible punishment for FGM.

EDIT: Had heard about the law when it was passed, just didn't come to mind when I saw u/93re2/ 's question

[–]nugymmer 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

6 years for fucking up someone's genitals? Should be 60 years.

[–]Mhrby 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Might be relevant to put it into context of danish law and the length of possible punishments for other crimes.

Thievery, including breaking and entering - up to 1½ years

Breaking and entering if someones home - +33%

Simple violence - up to 3 years

Severe violence - up to 6 years

Especially severe violence - up to 10 years (this includes circumcision if the resulting damage is beyond the usual, so a bothced circumcision would fall into this, if MGM is outlawed)

Negligent murder - 4 months - if especially cautionless act lead to negligent murder, up to 8 years

Murder - up to 16 years or lifetime in prison

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Never going to happen.

[–]Razorbladekandyfan 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish they would do it already.

[–]93re2 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The same penalty has existed since 2003 for the internationally condemned practice of excision, or female genital mutilation.

I would imagine the law in Denmark forbids all forms of FGM, even forms less extreme than excision. Any Danes familiar with the law, do feel free to chime in.

[–][deleted] 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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