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His marriage ended 16 years ago, and today WINS Supreme Court battle to see his ex-wife’s £17,000-a-year ‘meal ticket for life’ is cut by £4,000

Imnotmrabut

July 18, 2018
28 upvotes
/r/MensRights

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Title His marriage ended 16 years ago, and today WINS Supreme Court battle to see his ex-wife’s £17,000-a-year ‘meal ticket for life’ is cut by £4,000
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Imnotmrabut

Upvotes 28
Comments 21
Date July 18, 2018 3:38 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8zwjyo/his_marriage_ended_16_years_ago_and_today_wins/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/his-marriage-ended-16-years-ago-and-today-wins.1186205
https://theredarchive.com/post/1186205
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Comments

[–]thrway_1000 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A corrupt system.

Archive -- http://archive.is/uEUlu

[–]Ninagram 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I was seeing red when I got to the part where it said the ex-wife now works two days a week as a beauty therapist. Like wtf? How can't they see how wrong that is? How many people get to work only two days a week and have any kind of comfortable lifestyle? Why is she entitled to that?

[–]-manatease 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing that gets me is that she could go and live a dream life in Goa or somewhere with that kind of lump sum and monthly payment. But he can't live the same life, legally and without hassle returning home, because of his obligations.

[–]Imnotmrabut[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Evidently beauty therapy just ain't what it used to be.

[–]AllSeeingEyebrows2 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link

Obviously, alimony or maintenance payments are necessary, but we need to look at countries like Scotland for examples of how to support one party without exploiting the other.

In Scotland, maintenance payments typically last a maximum of 3 years, enough time to re-establish yourself and sustain a basic standard of living. In Britain and Wales, these payments are for life. That needs major reform.

[–]-manatease 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

At the very least payments should be limited to the duration of the marriage. Getting married for 2 years or whatever and being compensated for 60 is just ridiculous.

[–]AllSeeingEyebrows2 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link

Definitely. I'm a business owner, and I'm getting married in a few months. It's absurd that my SO could be legally entitled to a whole new lifestyle if we broke up.

[–]TheImpossible1 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't get married.

Prenups don't work.

Save yourself.

[–]AllSeeingEyebrows1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Save myself from what, exactly?

[–]TheImpossible1 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Marriage.

How can you post here and think any of them are benevolent people?

They just want your resources.

It's like voluntarily getting a tapeworm.

[–]AllSeeingEyebrows2 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think any of those things are true of the man I'm marrying.

[–]TheImpossible1 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I assumed everyone here was male honestly.

[–]Wolfeh2012 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Prenuptial agreement.

If you never divorce, then it is just a useless piece of paper. If you do, then you are both protected from each other. The only reason not to sign one, is if you expect to benefit from it not being there in the future.

[–]Rockbottom503 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Prenups are not binding under English law! They’re taken as a statement of intent by judges and consistently argued null and void by lawyers for those disputing them .

[–]Wolfeh2012 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are technically right. It is considered binding, but only if it meets the following qualifications:

  1. Written and signed by both parties
  2. Agreement executed before marriage
  3. Both of you agree you were not pressured to sign
  4. Both of you agree you read the entire document
  5. Enough time given to the future spouse for document review and legal consultation
  6. No Invalid provisions (Attempting to overwrite laws about divorce or child support)
  7. No False information in the document
  8. No Incomplete information in the document
  9. You and your future spouse both referred to independent legal consul before signing
  10. Not an unconscionable contract

There are a million loopholes that could have a prenup dismissed by a judge. Even if none of the other 9 items on the list are used, #10 gives a judge the right to use his own moral judgement and nullify the agreement.

[–]red_philosopher 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh boy. I can't believe the words coming out of your mouth after you have literally seen the exploitation that occurs. Best of luck, and if/when it all goes to shit, the RP will still be here. ;)

[–]tiqr 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't speak for Scotland, but in Canada spousal support typically lasts for 1/2 the length of the marriage, and lifetime is only available if the marriage lasts over 20 years.

[–]Benjaminook -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Irrelevant and pedantic, but Britain is England and Wales. Great Britain also includes Scotland

[–]geniice -3 points-2 points-1 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In this case the original maintenance payments were part of an agreement resulting from the huspand trying to avoid a 50:50 split of assets. If they has been limited to 3 years the split would have had to have been much closer to 50:50 which would not have greatly pleased the huspand.

[–]Wisemanner 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not so. Like you, and like most people, I had always thought that on breakup in |England the parties were entitled to half the assets each, but on another site recently it was explained that this is simply not the case. The wife, as in this case, is only entitled to be adequately taken care of, and not one half of the husband's wealth.

[–]geniice 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope 50:50 is the basis judges start from. Any movement away from that is really only going to apply where the marriage was short and one party brought singificantly more wealth into the marriage. In the case the marriage lasted 14 years and took place when the husband was 21 and the wife 22 so neither of those factors are likely to apply.

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