How often do false rape accusations happen?

Yoramus · 2020-09-04T18:13:14+00:00

Nobody knows and the reality is that it's impossible to know. You'd have to be better than the police at determining if an accusation is false or not.

Proven false accusations are 2-8% so feminists will quote the 2%. The grey area of accusations that are not proven either true or false is huge (80-90% I think) so it is probably somewhere in between

SokratisJ · 2020-09-04T16:19:59+00:00

I keep seeing 2% through 10% but they don't count to a lot of situations those are only the ones that are fully taken to court and proven I found this though

"Sandra Newman points to research from the British Home Office showing that in the early 2000s, of the 216 cases that were classified as false allegations, only six led to an arrest."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45565684

antilopes · 2020-09-04T16:13:16+00:00

Frighteningly often.

I once knew a girl who was a friend of my sister. If you mentioned any male during conversation, she would announce "he raped me". Then, if you mentioned another male, she would again announce "he raped me as well".

I once sat with her on a 20 bus journey with my sister, every time we mentioned a male, she would announce loudly how he raped her. The other passengers were looking at her horrified, and probably felt pity for her.

She was mentally unstable, and would take an overdose once a week and then go into the local Police station to tell them, so that they have to take her to the Hospital to have her stomach pumped.

She admitted that she did this for attention, no other reason, just attention. I suspected she also made rape accusations against random men for attention as well.

I can't stress enough how men need to be careful. Luckily, those that knew this girl knew she was making it up for attention, but imagine if the wrong person over heard the conversation and they speak to the Police.

Simply the mere accusation of rape is enough to completely destroy a man's life... women know this, and use it to their advantage.

duhhhh · 2020-09-04T16:56:08+00:00

The proven false accusation (case dismissed as baseless) rate for cases brought to the police is 2-8%.

The proven rape (conviction) rate is about the same. Would you think anyone saying saying true accusations are rare to be disingenuous based on that stat? I would. Which is why I think the same of the false accusations are rare arguments.

In 85%+ of cases there isn't enough evidence to know what really happened. "False accusations are really rare so he probably did it and got away with it." is not an acceptable message, but it is one said every day.

In order for false accusers to be convicted, the DA has to be willing to press charges. Due to the narrative that punishing proven liars would hurt rape victims, that is viewed as discouraging rape victims from coming forward and political/career suicide. Therefore, they rarely do.

For example last year someone actually said it out loud. The article was removed for not being PC in 2020, but was archived ...

https://web.archive.org/web/20191109005334/https://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-bc-us--false-rape-report-20191029-story.html

Prosecutors in Kansas are dropping all charges against a University of Kansas student accused of falsely reporting a rape, saying they feared publicity surrounding the case could discourage sexual assault victims from coming forward.

Douglas County District Attorney Charles Branson said in a statement Monday that the three felony counts of making a false report were dropped after much discussion. His office believed in the merits of the case, he said, but the "cost to our community and the negative impact on survivors of sexual violence cannot be ignored," reports The Kansas City Star.

"We are concerned this case, and the significant amount of misinformation surrounding it, could discourage other survivors from reporting their attack," Branson said. "That is unacceptable."

People rape. People falsely accuse. People falsely accused without evidence shouldn't be branded rapists. People raping and falsely accusing should both be punished, but there needs to be evidence.

cld8 · 2020-09-04T20:29:36+00:00

I have seen statistics saying about 5-10% of rape accusations are false. However, remember that these are only accusations formally made to police. If someone tells their family and friends that someone raped them, that won't be counted in the statistics, even though it can cause a loss of reputation for that person.

Men-Are-Human · 2020-09-04T16:21:32+00:00

I would say, a lot more than we get told. Realise that most don't get counted because the police are afraid of the backlash if they arrest a false accuser.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/7/false-sex-assault-reports-not-rare-reported-studie/

Detective-Efficient · 2020-09-04T17:39:03+00:00

A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities including 2,059 cases of sexual assault found a 7.1 percent rate of false reports (Lonsway, Archambault, & Lisak, 2009). https://cdn.atixa.org/website-media/atixa.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/12193336/Lisak-False-Reports-Moving-beyond.pdf

You will often hear that that's extremely rare. But there is one problem - this is the amount of cases that were proven false reporting. The conviction rate in rape cases is about 5/230 or 2%. (https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system) Therefore, real accusations are even less prevalent, aren't they? No. In Reality, we simply don't know, as the vast majority of cases is neither proven true nor false. We simply don't know.

bearstevenlee · 2020-09-04T18:07:40+00:00

Girls making false rape accusations should be sued. And if they can't prove their accusation, they should pay for lawsuits. No man has to disprove their accusation. If they can't back up their accusation, they are the one who has to pay up. Disgusting mindset.

Lostandalone555 · 2020-09-05T03:47:11+00:00

2 to 10% of accusations were found to be false, but only for those who ADMITTED they lied/exaggerated. So the true number is higher

kepz3 · 2020-09-04T16:09:32+00:00

The vast majority of studies come out with 2-10% of accusations are false

Ody_ssey · 2020-09-04T17:40:39+00:00

There's no study and figure on this. All proven to be lied cases are documented as not enough evidence.

-Cyber_Renaissance · 2020-09-04T18:14:32+00:00

53% of rape cases are false!

According to science/statistics: It's correct to not believe a raped woman because there is 3% more of a chance of her lying than saying the truth!

aragonphx · 2020-09-06T06:35:13+00:00

However, the meta-analysis doesn’t say this. Instead, it states that “at least 5%” of such accusation are “confirmed false reports” and “potentially many more false report cases” exist. In fact, the meta-analysis lists four different studies of “suspected” false allegations and “found false reporting rates above 40%.”

https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/beware-of-the-fact-checkers/

Wisemanner · 2020-09-06T09:52:18+00:00

Now that it's been mentioned, I remember one of the early claimers of "only two per cent are false", was a female detective in New York, who, I now remember reading, based her claim on no actual evidence. The other was Koss - the woman who claimed women who had had sex while drunk have been raped, and, women who did not like the way they had been looked at had been sexually assaulted.

In the latest piece of feminist b/s Laura Bates claims men have a greater chance of being raped themselves than falsely accused. She cites the fact that there are only a small number of convictions in the UK for falsely accusing a man of rape. And, in this, she is right, because charging women for falsely accusing is not considered to be "in the public interest". (At least they have the good sense to occasionally make an example of a false accuser, since they are well aware that to let all false accusers off would only make matters worse.) Where she is wrong, is remaining silent about the known number of false accusations, which are many times more than those actually charged with the offence. Only a tiny minority are charged. The actual number of false accusers is not known, because the figures are massaged. For example, cases of women making accusations that the police dismiss as impossible, are not recorded at all. A further 14% (yes it's about that - it varies slightly, of course) are put into a category termed "no crime". These are where a woman has claimed she raped, where the police have investigated the claim, and where they have found, with certainty, that she was not raped. (The latter point is important, because women' groups insist that the claim must have been proven to be false before the case an be termed "no crime".) Why is the case termed "no crime". Various technicalities are used. The point that needs to be made is that in these 14% of cases, a woman did indeed claim she was raped, and it was proven, beyond doubt, that she lied. Why is it done? Simple. It's done to keep the number of false accusations low.

So the problem with determining how many false accusations there are is next to impossible with any accuracy. This is because the figures are manipulated and fiddled, and too many people have an interest in keeping the figures artificially low - for example, police officers wanting to be "good boys" and not denied promotion for politically correct reasons - which is a very big thing these days.

The easiest and best way of responding to anyone who claims false cases of rape are rare is to say "So are proven cases of rape." (In the UK - a country of about 65 million people, just about 2000 cases a year.)

69_Watermelon_420 · 2020-09-07T00:09:00+00:00

It’s generally accepted that about 10% of all rape accusations are intentionally false. That means the accuser maliciously accused. About 10% of rape accusations are confirmed cases of rape.

burnafterreading6969 · 2020-09-05T00:27:10+00:00

How can you even be raped. Like just walk away

Title	How often do false rape accusations happen?
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