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TIL - One of the most feminist countries in the world has out of wedlock birthrate of 70%. South Korea is 2%

furry8

November 21, 2019

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Title	TIL - One of the most feminist countries in the world has out of wedlock birthrate of 70%. South Korea is 2%
Author	furry8
Upvotes	57
Comments	42
Date	November 21, 2019 12:11 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/dziexm/til_one_of_the_most_feminist_countries_in_the/
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Let's think this through:

Women control 56% of suffrage. That's a 12 point lead. Put another way, if 10% of women and all men vote one way and 90% of women vote the other, the 90% of women win. The vote lead women have is extreme.

Women have used that 12 point gap to increase taxes 2000% relative to GDP since women's suffrage. Men now pay 75% of taxes while women receive 80% of government welfare. In the USA, that represents $2T/yr taken from men to be given to women.

In recent history, we watched a "war on women"... the idea that women would have to pay for their own birth control under the ACA. Mind you, men were already slated to have to pay for their own birth control. Treating women the same as men was seen as a "war on women". That's how entitled the women voting population is: Being treated the same as men is a war on women.

I'm open to suggestions, but I don't see anything beating women's 56% control of government and politicians taking from men to bribe women's votes other than removing universal suffrage. It's possible that we could change suffrage to landowner vote or requiring net positive taxes to vote (latter would require a Constitutional amendment) would prevent the abuse of suffrage, but either of those solutions would still require revolution to implement.

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Parental leave is 18 months at 70% of salary up to 2-3 k USD a month, out of which 3 months have to be taken by the father (or mother). I think the left wants to up that to 6, but not sure.

The invective against - and celebration of - Sweden in the US debate is indeed puzzling. Though I do not live in Sweden, and though integration of immigrants is a concern, we are not at risk of going under any time soon. We are also far from a Socialist Utopia - we have low corporate taxes, one of the most liberal employment regimes in the world (you can hire and fire at will, and consistently rank near the top in ease of doing business. What we DO have is day care, parental leave, and solid unemployment insurance - but we also require unemployed people to go through job training to receive benefits and have very few long-term unemployed. Our taxes are only marginally higher than those in California, but for that, we get free education, almost free, universal health care, clean streets, and the assurance that we live in a society where destitution is practically non-existent. That is why few people complain about paying taxes.

Of course, my list of negatives will, if more innocuous, be at least as long...

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