Why Modern Movies Suck – They Hate Their Own Fans

rbrockway · 2022-09-14T07:28:26+00:00

I think the argument has some merit (or I never would have posted it to AVfM or here) but I still wonder how they monetise fan-baiting. My response to the 2016 Ghost Busters movie was to decide not see it and rarely if ever discuss it. In my case the default setting is to not see a Hollywood movie so this was an easy decision.

Are people raging on these movies and then going to see them anyway? Or maybe buying merch?

I've been saying for decades that Hollywood mostly turns out crap and the best way to address this is to deprive them of your hard earned money. They only understand money so speak their language.

All too often I see people criticise Hollywood and then hand over their money anyway. Nothing changes.

HikuroMishiro · 2022-09-14T06:03:08+00:00

While some of it is fan-baiting to an extent, a lot if it just down to political propaganda. Hollywood is far left, as is feminism (and other woke movements). The elite can afford to alienate half their audience in order to prop up their message. The studio might make 50 million on a movie instead of 100 million because they put some crap in what could have been a decent movie, but the directors, CEOs, writers, etc. all are still going to get paid the same whether they include their hateful content or not.

CommissarSteel56 · 2022-09-14T17:25:30+00:00

When it comes to the topic modern films portrayal of men and women is quite skewed. For example women in modern movies (Popular Franchises) are shown to be near flawless beings with little to any relatable quirks and on the off chance that a flaw is shown it is only skin deep. Meanwhile men are are portrayed as either stupid, useless, single minded, or a combination of the three.

Now this isn't true with all modern movies, some actually have smartly developed characters with flaws and quirks that make them feel like real people. (Spiderman, Merida, most of the cast of The Bad Guys, just to name a few) The reason behind this, I believe, centers around the quality of the writing and the intent of the writing.

For example, Rings of power is written by a team of people whose intention was to basically preach to an audience using world which already had established lore instead of just writing to entertain. Meanwhile House of the dragons writers focused on delivering a entertaining story in smart way that does not talk down to or bastardises the source material for brownie points.

DavidByron2 · 2022-09-14T04:44:56+00:00

Fan-baiting isn't a thing. For one thing it's described as a method to boost ticket sales and the reverse happened, so the method would have been abandoned. For another if the idea is to provoke anger by fans which the movie company can then react to with calls of "sexist" or "racist", then why are we seeing those accusations before the film is even shown? Clearly they aren't reactions to angry fans and if they just feel OK lying about that stuff anyway then there's no need to bait anyone -- just make up a story about how only bad people don't go to see this movie.

There's a simpler explanation.

"The message" is feminist anti-male hate propaganda. And the reason it's now put into all these movies is the same reason you see it promoted everywhere else; namely that the ruling class have decided that feminism is a benefit to them and so they promote it and throw money at it. The reason the ruling class back feminism is a more interesting question. It's because feminism is a right wing movement that passes itself off as left wing and so it's a perfect 5th column to undermine the real Left and divide the working class against itself. Basically the same sort of deal as all the racism that the ruling class promoted for a few centuries pitting black people against poor white people and native Americans; dividing the working class to endure the security of the ruling class. Much the same thinking as why the ruling class of 1920s Germany decided to promote the Nazis. They wanted to divide the working class and attack the Left.

Not that the ruling class agreed with the Nazis or the feminist ideology (or Al Qaeda that the US is still paying 21 years after 9-11). They didn't agree with any of these crazies. They found them useful.

Hollywood doesn't want to lose ticket sales but the ruling class are a powerful client and that means it's worth losing a bunch of regular customers to gain the backing of the ruling class as customer. Just like any time anyone makes a war movie they have to agree to the US armed forces conditions. If they don't the US government won't give them a bunch of money. it's worth losing some ordinary customers to comply with the government as customer.

sanchopanza87 · 2023-02-28T17:37:02+00:00

The movie industry will do whatever maximize their income.

In the current climate movie producers won't make a movie that is free of leftist brainwashing and forced "diversity", because there will be a backlash from the political and cultural elite, which will hurt their revenue.

Also, in a globalized world, it is a smart marketing strategy to use an Indian in the lead role, even if the movie takes place in middle age Europe, because it will increase the revenue in India.

Too bad for actual thinking adults/conservatives who can't make any sense of these movies though.

Title	Why Modern Movies Suck – They Hate Their Own Fans
Author	rbrockway
Upvotes	52
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Date	September 14, 2022 2:25 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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