You will find here a myriad of views and personal tastes. Some are conservatives, others are leftists, some are married, others ban marriage, some are divorced, some are in high school, others have grandchildren. Some are straight, others are gay, you will find here women, mothers, grandmothers, whites, blacks, Muslims, Jews, and people from almost every nation on earth, you have here trans men (born male living as women) and trans women (born female living as men - yes, I never accepted public capitulation to the demand to call men women and women men, there's another view for you). You have here "feminism was good up to a point", "feminism was wrong from the very beginning in the mid-19th century" "feminism is needed today but not like this", you have here, "I respect feminism but only want my own movement too", and, "I do not respect feminism and there's no need under democratic humanism for tribal rights-movements neither for women nor for men - we should all come together", you have "man-up" and you have "it's sexist to tell men to man-up" - you have the lot, living in piece and with respectful, productive, free disagreement, with everyone wanting the same thing - just to be happy as oneself, and to know more or less what's true and what's false, what's good and what's wrong.

You will find here men who accept the feminist premise of "there are no differences between the sexes and everything is just roles like in a theater" who deduce from this that men should not pay for dates and not be drafted to the army and get full custody on babies a few months old (because no differences means soft babies don't need a woman more than they need a man) - that is, they are holding feminism to it's premises and demand that "if absolute equality - then for men too". And, you have here the complete opposite - many others who firmly object to the feminist premises that "everything is just man-made theatrical roles" and contend that men and women are in their intimate relations two sexes and that the relations between them are not "fabricated roles of a theater" but arise from innate drives and qualities of both and that they complement each other in their intimate relations and share some responsibilities but also have some innate different functions for each other that should be respected and allowed to be expressed by both of them.

Here we respect the value of disagreement and contradicting views, we know it is a necessary means for reaching anything resembling truth, we care less about "it is I who must at all cost come out as being correct" and much more about "what view is more sound and supported - regardless of whether I happened to be the one proposing it or the other guy", we stand corrected often and freely with no shame, we argue fiercely and then shake hands, we respect the fact that the other side was committed not to himself but to getting as close as possible to truth and devoted with us authentic (not manipulative) efforts to finding reliable information and data and the considerations that should be taken into account.

Many of us (I believe quite a few), don't want to just rant here but come here to basically eventually, be heard by women, because feminism deletes us from everywhere else, by bendable "criteria" that let in violent chauvinism if it's of female anti-male chauvinism but keeps out any response to such treatment - commentary, analysis, data - that would remind society that it's violent and that all violence is illegitimate, and it keeps us out of any public media this way so that women won't be able to know what's going on and who and what men are and that they are only human, to keep women trapped in a feminist depiction of men. I think most of us want women as well here, we want them to know, this is a motivation of many of us, we want women to tell other women what they saw and learned here. In the unlikely event that this place becomes flooded with supportive loving women to the point that men can't be heard - I imagine we will join forces with them to set up the separate forum "men and women who love each other and want men's rights and women's rights just the same". We can worry about that later. In the meanwhile - I think I am not speaking only for myself when I say to everyone including and especially women - if you see men and boys as humans, you are welcomed here.