Honesty in Plate Spinning

[deleted] · 2014-03-07T13:39:26+00:00

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sadshark · 2014-03-07T05:40:03+00:00

I see plates more than just fucks buddies. Somewhere between girlfriend and fuck buddy. That means, i spend time with them doing other activities other than just sex, which creates the illusion of a LTR. HOWEVER, they all know that I'm not exclusive with them, but I also dont shove it in their faces. Two of my plates are exclusive with me and one is 'open'.

Whenever the conversation about exclusivity arises, I always divert it and if they insist on it I firmly tell them to stop, at wich point they pout for a bit then it's back to butterflies and tingles.

Remember: A female would ALWAYS rather share an alpha than stay with a beta.

bleh321 · 2014-03-07T04:28:55+00:00

Your actions and general attitude during pickup should already be communicating to her that you are not looking for an LTR.
What does this mean?

You rarely do any activity that requires you to use your own resources and only meet up for sex. Anything more and you are manipulating her to think that you are giving her something more.

Plates are generally hard to manage for this reason however. Most will inevitably seek some form of commitment and that is when you drop the plate or ignore as punishment.

GWBuffalo1847 · 2014-03-07T15:44:40+00:00

This coincides with the 48 laws of power by Robert Greene (Give it a read if you haven't.) This specifically deals with laws 3 (Conceal your intentions) and law 4 (Never say more than necessary.) To a lesser degree this power move is supported by several of the other laws. I am not here to debate whether this is moral or not, I am here to say that this is a technique that will undoubtedly increase your power over your plates. However, I would like to point out that when the relationship goes south (Which is much more likely to happen in an unpleasant way) you must follow law 15 (Crush your enemy totally) or you risk your reputation.

z_omg · 2014-03-07T07:33:42+00:00

If it's not lying, it's trickle truth, and we look down on this just the same.

le_king_falcon · 2014-03-07T17:23:24+00:00

Honesty is the gold standard purely because that way she has no wiggle room to hamsterize her way into what ever label she's taken a shine to.

However such honesty isn't conducive to easy plate spinning so shades of grey are needed. The only place where you should be 100% black and white is bad behaviour. She shits on you, stamp it out or begin to detach. After that varying shades of grey, as long as she knows you aren't exclusive then everything is fair game. She wants to get uppity because things aren't going her way then stamp it our or walk away.

TRP isn't a moral code. We only say be honest because lying is more likely to net you big drama and a possible bad label. If a girl knows 100% that she isn't exclusive then she has little to smear you with.

aaron_the_just · 2014-03-07T18:54:29+00:00

I used to tell lies by omission, but now I don't bother.

The pre-selection is so powerful when a plate knows you have other options that the sex gets much hotter. Then add on to that the dread game where she knows you have other options you can leave her for.

It turns out that women really like being in a soft harem, even though they'll never admit it.

It's a good deal for them.

FortunateBum · 2014-03-08T02:26:37+00:00

It's better to say you don't want a relationship even if you do because:

1) It demonstrates your value. It shows that you have options and she's not one

2) She'll work harder to get a relationship because of 1

3) If things don't go well, you can always use the logic of you never wanted a relationship. Trust me, this is a good card to hold.

4) It doesn't matter what you say. She's going to feel how she's going to feel. Telling her you're into her only marks you - in her eyes - as a beta chump. It's way better to reject her early and often. It makes her chase you and want you.

Telling her you're looking for "the one" or something like that is Nice Guy game. Why are you playing nice guy game?

The most Machiavellian and clever move is to fuck her, slip out in the dead of night (or right after). If she's awake, tell her you need to get up early or some shit. Don't call or contact for a few days at least. Then booty call her at 2am or some stupid shit. Then propose marriage. (I keed, I keed.)

Motiv8tion · 2014-03-08T19:35:00+00:00

I've been struggling with this paradox for a longgg time. Just a couple weeks ago, I texted a girl to come over. I get, for the first time, a looong response saying how she knows shes just a bang buddy and how shes looking for more, blah, blah. I then had to decide exactly what you mentioned, do I drive her away or dangle the relationship in front of her to get more ass. I ended up driving her away. I've been doing this for too long and my reputation is ruined because of it. I'm talking to a girl now, and the first thing she says is, "aren't you the guy who leads girls on for sex".

If you can accept that your actions are going to ultimately come crashing down, and are willing to make this sacrifice for some ass, then so be it, play on her emotions. For me, I'm content with starting over, the chase is reinvigorating.

SupALupRT · 2014-03-10T14:24:24+00:00

I believe in karma. While yes you could you should never stoop to a woman's level for poon. You're better than that. A lot of times if you hold frame and don't act like its a big deal they'll just accept it.

Title	Honesty in Plate Spinning
Author	FindMitch
Upvotes	5
Comments	17
Date	March 7, 2014 3:43 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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