Gen Z boys’ attitudes to feminism are more nuanced than negative

mr_ogyny · 2024-02-24T17:20:39+00:00

Young men are more likely than older men to think that feminism has done more harm than good, according to a new survey, suggesting a backward step in attitudes to gender equality.

Young men aren't wrong. It should read 'suggesting a backward step in ~~attitudes to~~ gender equality.'.

The boys, meanwhile, with the demands of masculinity thrust upon them, rarely consider themselves powerful or privileged.

Yes, because most people, including feminists, still want to take advantage of men through traditional gender roles in a world where it's misogynist to hold women to the same or any standard. At the same time, they keep telling men to show their vulnerability but aren't ready to hear it.

'Why won't you cry? Don't you see?? Crying will fix all your problems.'

'Hold up, did he just cry? Ew, seeing him cry gave me the biggest ick. Is he even a man?'

NeoNotNeo · 2024-02-24T17:15:48+00:00

They’re not buying the BS that feminism is selling

hehimCA · 2024-02-24T16:35:15+00:00

The initial statement is so biased. This is written by university students it looks like. A step backwards for gender equality? I would argue the opposite—young men acknowledging life is harder for them is a step toward gender equality.

HotwheelsJackOfficia · 2024-02-24T20:43:30+00:00

The boys, meanwhile, with the demands of masculinity thrust upon them, rarely consider themselves powerful or privileged

Because they're in school, experiencing firsthand how it's stacked against them. It has been shown in studies that girls are given better grades and more opportunities in school, and it continues on through college and the workplace.

suggesting a backwards step in gender equality

It is backwards, they're being treated like garbage for the horrible sin of being born male. That's not equality.

Friendly reminder that you don't hate journalists enough.

Green_Class2614 · 2024-02-24T15:57:58+00:00

Feminism is the gender KKK.

Alt4Gaming · 2024-02-24T16:14:07+00:00

7 out of 10 men think men will have it easier than women in 20 years. How do these men not realize they are victims. They need to wake up.

DecrepitAbacus · 2024-02-25T00:22:45+00:00

About three generations of boys have now grown up hearing little but spite and venom towards their sex. I'm amazed they aren't tearing our communities to pieces and wouldn't blame them if they were to do so.

AirSailer · 2024-02-24T17:29:41+00:00

As I was reading the article I could tell it was written by a woke gay man, a woke trans man, or a woke feminist lesbian... Then I see the pic of the author at the end and my suspicions were confirmed. This company provides sexual education to kids, and their final analysis is that kids should not listen to the adults in the lives, while this company provides the proper type of education (I.e. woke pro-feminist anti-masculine education). The way the sentences are structured, and the words used, all imply a pro-feminist viewpoint, then as is typical with feminist discussion of the current state of boys, they jump straight to the extreme example (i.e. Andrew Tate) as the main example of male influencers.

makeumadd · 2024-02-25T04:50:56+00:00

Wow, it's almost like lying for generations catches up...

EricAllonde · 2024-02-25T05:58:08+00:00

Gen Z boys recognize nonsense when they hear it: the gender pay gap myth; toxic masculinity; men oppressing women; feminists "fighting for equal rights"; etc.

These boys are laughing in the face of feminists who go into their schools and try to push feminist propaganda down their throats, as feminists have done for decades.

Feminists are not getting any traction and that fact terrifies them, leading to hysterical stories in the press about "boys gravitating to Andrew Tate", etc.

BlueThespian · 2024-02-24T21:19:40+00:00

Yeah women are clearly the better sex: stronger and smarter than any man. So it should be a no brainer for them to work to maintain the house, go through mandatory military service, if the marriage ends they should not have any complaints on taking care of the children, being the ones who start the relationship because men are just not up to standard and how dare they have the gall to bother a woman in her natural habitat. They also should be the ones to support society by being engineers, mathematicians, soldiers, etc. and leave all the men at home to do all the house chores, childcare and also more cheating opportunities by having to mandatory work 3/4 of their sentient lives (average sleep-time being 6-8hrs) to be able to rank a 6 figure salary, to not only achieve stability but also to be able to provide all the commodities they demand. Women as dictated by feminism should clearly stand on top of society so they should be the ones to pay all the taxes, deal with the IRS, get judged when they lie regarding fake parentage, and be sentenced to prison if they unreasonable harass dumb and weak men. The future is now and women should not only receive what they demand in their feminist manifesto (because they are so organized to write such a thing) but should also be aware of what it entails, “with great power comes great responsibility” as they say.

Feeling-Series9365 · 2024-02-24T21:03:51+00:00

They all look Bratz Boyz dolls

Life_Deal_367 · 2024-02-25T05:26:46+00:00

Respect for Gen Z, atleast fixing one thing ruined by us millenials

LongDongSamspon · 2024-02-24T22:44:44+00:00

From the article “In our recent experience of working in schools delivering and evaluating an educational session designed to address harmful sexual behaviour in schools, we asked the young people how many would identify themselves as a feminist. In response, there were often just two or three hands raised, often accompanied by an odd snide comment from one of the boys.”

This is the real majority perception of and reaction to feminism until “researchers”, “explain” to the children that they actually are feminists and just don’t know it (as the article then describes them going on to do).

Feminists are the ultimate gaslighters (as they say), that’s why you can’t believe any study they do on these things one way or the other.

Felarhin · 2024-02-24T19:24:48+00:00

There is no such thing as a male feminist who is behind on child support.

Living_Accountant_67 · 2024-02-25T03:51:52+00:00

When they grow up I hope they'll be more aware of the true side of this hypocritical society. As a gen Z I also "woke up" only after 20 yrs old.

rabel111 · 2024-02-25T10:26:54+00:00

A study based on an ipso survey panel, run by King’s College London. What they don't clarify is that it was run by the King's Global Institute for Women’s Leadership. Hardly an unbiased entity. Given tne methods of the study were not available for review, the validity of the study can not be assessed.

Most feminist studies are rotten to the core with confirmation bias, reporting bias and bent instruments. Not worth reading, not believable, designed to support misandrist propositions.

LeroyNash99 · 2024-02-24T20:47:06+00:00

I don't have a issue with the values of 1st -3rd wave feminism and even some of the 4th.

What I take issue with is:

How many women feminism only applies when it's beneficial, the moment that the downsides or negatives of "equality " show they quickly want to revert to traditional Patriarchal values and norms so they don't have to take responsibility or difficulty. You typically see this when the topic of whether a man should be a provider comes up. You often get the 2 in 1 special where the man is expected to provide for the household and his money is their money but the woman's money is just for her.

Modern feminists wanting special privileges instead of equality. This can be seen with how differently Male Rapists and Sexual assaulters are treated vs Female Rapists and Sexual assaulters. Or how as constructed Women in most states have the ability to opt out of parenthood via abortion without even needing the consent of the father but men not getting the same option if they dont want to parent.

The witch mob, guilty til proven innocent culture that birthed from the Me Too movement. I agree that many woman's allegations and claims of rape/SA were ignored and many Male abusers were allowed to get away with it for decades. And accusations should be taken seriously and investigated. However there has be a shift too far in the other direction where now a mere accusation alone is enough to ruin a mans career and any requests for evidence outside of just the accusation is treated as being a Rape apologists

WrongdoerWilling7657 · 2024-02-25T07:29:02+00:00

Every feminist and body positivity spewing fat bitch I've seen, are always the first to spew the same vitriol they claim to be against. They have no principles. They just want preferential treatment and to not be held accountable for their actions.

Nerfixion · 2024-02-25T07:28:19+00:00

No shock there, the people creating these rules are typically older. Thus they think of it as rules to protect their daughter where as people trying to date said daughter see how fucked it is.

DragonKnight0x · 2024-02-25T09:13:17+00:00

The article demonstrates the problem we are facing in society today. The authors who wrote this piece are literally getting paid to do nothing but write negative hit pieces on future generate of workers.

Lumpy-Mammoth-3115 · 2024-02-25T13:14:32+00:00

Femcenteic reasoning. If men think it, it’s bad and oppressive. If women think it, it’s wholesome and moral, regardless of facts and reality.

SkwampDaddy · 2024-02-27T04:06:31+00:00

I still feel like this was a good article, and I really love how they fairly and equally represented gen z males and gen z female points of views and took a shot at a unfair and sexist tweet targeting at men by a news source. So overall a good post from this site

Title	Gen Z boys’ attitudes to feminism are more nuanced than negative
Author	shit-zen-giggles
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Date	February 24, 2024 3:25 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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