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[–]TofuTofu 32 points33 points34 points 14 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I've hooked up with hardcore muslim girls before.
Just make sure she knows that you are discreet and will not kiss and tell. That tends to be hugely important to them.
Otherwise, game like normal.
[–]TheBattler 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm an ex-Muslim, and I want to reiterate the second point.
If you so much as ask her on a date or hold her hand, DO NOT TELL ANYONE. Most likely, she has pretty conservative relatives or friends and if word gets out, it will probably ruin her life.
I know Muslim chicks who go to the beach and to parties once or twice a week and have boyfriends, but also pray five times a day and are best friends with conservative chicks wearing hijabs. Minorities tend to stick to one another and Muslims are no different.
Also, if she's living near or with her parents or her aunt or something, I would just forget about her. Unless the risk is something you enjoy.
If she's not living near relatives, then go for it.
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[–]TheBattler 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure thing, I can elaborate.
Your Muslim girl is of Sudanese descent. My parents are Bangladeshi. Both are Muslim countries, and both tend to be pretty piss poor.
Reproductive capabilities were seen as valuable and locked up securely thousands of years ago, and without easy access to medicine, contraceptives, and food, they stay locked up until modern days. That's a 3rd world country for you. Parents are the guardians of their kids, and they insist on keeping their especially frail, precious flowers (girls) in their homes until they find someone who can take care of them. This is the case in many 3rd world countries.
Now take into consideration the fact that they're immigrants. Their new country is not the same one they were born and raised in. They generally feel like everything is set up against them. A human being's normal response to this is to be conservative.
Muslim countries due to Imperialism and poorness tend to be very conservative. They associate lots of ideas and concepts with "The West" and due to the propping up of dictators, colonialism, the War on Terror, proxy wars, etc. they have a negative connotation with the West. These include promiscuity, fashion, materialism, among other things. Even objectively useful and positive things such as science are taught to be evil because they they have roots in "The West." For the sake of this discussion, promiscuity is the main point.
Muslims are not allowed to date, not without a chaperone. No premarital sex, either. A Muslim girl and a Muslim guy cannot even be in the same room together 1 on 1 (in groups of in public is fine). I'm not saying that every Muslim girl is closed to the idea of dating; I'm saying that they've had their sexuality stifled.
Muslim girls are also not allowed to date non-Muslims, and this is often twisted into a huge preference for their own ethnicity. Well, to be honest, I think the majority of people prefer what's comfortable and familiar, so a person of similar culture is usually preferred as a partner over someone who's not. But it gets pretty extreme when it comes to people from poor countries. They believe that their new countries are trying to undermine them, so a person outside of their race is considered a part of their country, and THEY will try to undermine them (and their kids).
My mother and father assume that I'm going to marry a Bangladeshi girl. My father in particular has a very interesting case of cognitive dissonance. He's very quick to stereotype white people, black people, Mexicans, etc. He claims that they don't have family values like our people do. I had a discussion with him where I stereotyped Bangladeshi women. He basically said that each Bangladeshi girl is an individual and has her own mindset.
Any challenge to their mindset further puts them into their own mindset. That's why making a Muslim girl's association with you public is a bad idea; it'll encourage her parents to keep an even tighter noose on her.
[–]Mo3[S] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for your reply!
What about escalating? I tend to escalate quite quickly and I'm not sure if that'd work with Muslims.
[–]TofuTofu 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
All girls will react differently. I hooked up with one girl who got off so much on being taboo in public that she let me finger her in the bar the first day we met. But all girls will be different. You just need experience.
[+]I_LOVE-MOONEY -23 points-22 points-21 points 14 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
you are that guy living in japan, and only have balls to approach shy asian girls, who dont have vocabulary good enough to tell you to fuck off in english.
first, try to date normal white girls back here in US, then come back giving your advices. you dont belong in this section.
key words: HARDCORE MUSLIM - LET YOU - FINGER HERSELF - IN A BAR (openly in public) - ON FIRST DATE.
i dont believe a word you are saying. unless she was so high she couldnt recognise her own mother.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 14 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Really? He was making a general point; that all girls will react differently to being approached an kino'd. He then gave an example about "one girl" — not the hardcore muslim — who let him finger her in public.
I will not even comment on your first paragraph. It is also pretty weak of you to create a new account, just to post that shit.
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol what is happening here?
chill out dude.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice going there, Sherlock ;-) How do you always manage to find out about plans like these?
[–]pua_with_HPV 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are officially the worst troll I have ever come across.
Little kid, just stick to Halo.
[–]Sed5 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't do PDA. If she has bikini shots then her parents are likely very liberal and you're in the clear. Make sure you're in a safe location where she can't be seen by her many possible relatives/friends/etc.
Just keep it wink wink nudge nudge. You have to show her that you can keep things subtle amongst you and not embarrass her.
also don't be a dick and stereotype or treat her like a person who isn't from wherever country you're from.
[–]2oosra 12 points13 points14 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
grab'em by the tits
[–]Mo3[S] 6 points7 points8 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This advice matches with my intentions
[–]bioya11 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I go to school in Dearborn, and I've got to say, Arabic girls are hit or miss. Either HB9 or HB0.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you know what HB stands for right? no i was just curious, forget i said anything.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Im actually dating a muslim girl right now (iranian). I began my ventures of chasing arab girls(orthodox) early in highschool right into college going after muslim girls (something about being forbidden about them, and strictness got me). Anyways With these type of girls, their cultures are all about status (sometimes a little bit of showing off money), act like a man, be a man, don't ask, tell. Not completely forceful, but these girls want someone that will take care of them. These women are rebellious by nature, they are not allowed to show it, but goddamn if you tease and flirt and make her laugh enough, they'll do it. Every arab girls I've met, was glad I wasn't like the typical arab or muslim man. My gf was rebellious like crazy, she never showed it, but a couple nights out with me, she became a bit more free than the usual restraint she has around her parents. Those pictures on facebook, theres a little bit of a rebel hiding underneath, just needs someone to push her little by little. Muslim women have strict upbringings, so there's a chance for a night or a few she wants to let free. Take her out, show her a good time, something she probably never has the opportunity to do. Tell her where you two are going, and be the opposite of a typical muslim man (minus the taking charge part). Either way, just my 2 cents. Sorry for my writing is not so good, I'm a foreigner (spanish) ...or maybe muslim girls just like spanish hmmm...pretend to be spanish haha
[–]Jacob_Soda 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Old ass comment are you from Spain?
[–]fragglemook 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup what tofutofu said. Unless they are wearing a burqa and walking ten paces in front of their men, you should proceed as normal. You would probably find that being direct with them will get you far as most afc's would stand off because they don't know what to make of her religion and customs. Unless they are also muslims too of course.
From my experience, they want your average James Bond archetype. So role play this kind of thing. Knight in shining armour, Tom Cruise vibe. But not gay.
Or... just tell them you hang out with Shah Rukh Khan when he's in town and photoshop yourself into one of his pictures. Job done.
[–]DesignMyself 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A beer festival? Was this Muslim woman drinking beer?
[–]Mo3[S] 0 points1 point2 points 14 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, neither was I
[–]MonkeySteriods 1 point2 points3 points 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like you're breaking German law!
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 14 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have to cut the red wire.
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