The ethics of fucking a girl who has a boyfriend

Blood_Vaults · 2014-03-22T21:43:51+00:00

Be careful if you know she's attached. You don't know what kind of man the boyfriend is. One of the dumbest ways to die or be hospitalized is over a piece of pussy. I personally wouldn't bother. It's not like she's the only wet hole in the world.

If you fuck a girl and find out after she's attached later, that's a different situation than going after a girl you already know is taken.

Also: be wary of the 'lets you and him fight' scenario. One of the ultimate validation a of a girl's ego is two men coming to blows over her.

SenorPuff · 2014-03-23T06:19:50+00:00

"Call me when you're single. I don't have time for bullshit."

ss4james_ · 2014-03-22T22:10:36+00:00

The only thing I would say is don't let her make you her new boyfriend.

4tune8 · 2014-03-23T00:17:40+00:00

Why would you settle for a girl in a relationship when there are literally millions that are single and petite?

Fundumpsters · 2014-03-22T21:59:13+00:00

Girls with boyfriends seem easier...

stemgang · 2014-03-22T22:47:32+00:00

In my area, monkey-branching is the norm.

There are no desireable girls without boyfriends here.

DrakeSaint · 2014-03-22T21:45:18+00:00

If you fucked my girlfriend, it was all my entire fault. You were the agent. It's like trying to blame Death for removing your presence of the world. You caused it, or the cause was there, you had no control over it.

This would be entirely different if you were a close friend. I'd punch you in the face for being a Judas, and for not upholding our friendship. The right thing to do if you were a true friend was to warn me of her advances or stance. The closer the bond we have, the more mad I'd be. Know that this has nothing to do on the whore who thinks she can get away with murder.

It is unethical if you have any other formal or not agreement of friendship with the boyfriend. If you never saw the fucker, no, it's not unethical.

KarateExplosion6 · 2014-03-22T22:28:27+00:00

I think it's alright, IF, and ONLY IF, she comes to you...

Kind of a gray area, but I think that there are 7 billion people in the world and people who knowingly target another person's SO isn't Alpha, in my view. If you were Alpha, you wouldn't hold petite cutie in such high regard (are you pedestaling her already? sounds like you're fantasizing...), since we exist in an ABUNDANCE of pussy.

IMO, I view males who do this kind of thing as untrustworthy. Alphas are leaders, but I would never consider the leadership of someone I knew I couldn't trust. I think it's more Alpha not to TARGET.

Now... Having said all of that, I'm not saying you shouldn't run group game. When you're interacting with your moot court team, be yourself, be Alpha. If she initiates the build-up of sexual tension, then no worries--she's going to wind up cheating on her SO at some point in time and it may as well be you.

In closing, it's absolutely a gray area, but I think you should strive not to be the one who is ACTIVELY gaming her like a TARGET. But, if you feel that she is begging for you to make a move, it's OK to eventually make it.

Final note: If you make a move on a girl in a relationship and she gives you the cold shoulder, etc. and you continue to hunt her, you're an asshole 100% of the time.

83729105 · 2014-03-22T23:04:59+00:00

You say that youd be thankful. But what if that dude kept fucking your girlfriend and you never found out?

McDoner · 2014-03-23T00:12:02+00:00

She may just like the attention. And I'd be careful. You sleep with her and she gets caught she may cry rape.

rj88631 · 2014-03-22T23:04:57+00:00

Bros don't fuck over bros but hoes gonna hoe.

It's a grey area. You probably have the best mindset, thinking about how you would feel if you were in the other guy's situation.

And lastly, she made an agreement to him not to fuck other people. You never made an agreement with him not to fuck her.

More lastly, this is a hint of scarcity mentality. You're at school? You can easily fuck one of this girl's friends rather than end up getting jumped by some pissed off BF who blames you for defiling his flower (cheating whore).

esco_ · 2014-03-23T00:32:13+00:00

As far as it being a favour to her boyfriend that you fucked her so he could find out, who's going to tell him? You don't need to start hamstering that what you did is actually good but the whole game is amoral. Just do what you're going to do and don't doubt it.

Even though if my girl did it to me I would be glad that I knew she was a cheating slut, I would still want to knock the other guy out, especially if he knew she had a boyfriend. At that point it's not only about women he is directly disrespecting you by doing it as if you're not man enough to respond. I'm not American though and I know a lot of you guys are pretty anti-violence in any circumstance so that's just me.

[deleted] · 2014-03-23T00:00:32+00:00

You shouldn't. Women do that shit because they can. Don't be the reason they can.

[deleted] · 2014-03-23T00:42:57+00:00

Sexual strategy is amoral. This isn't an ethics forum.

[deleted] · 2014-03-23T04:02:39+00:00

The question is, is it unethical to go for the kill, so to speak?

I really don't think this is for us to answer. You're a grown man, you can decide your personal ethics by yourself.

I've turned down married women in the past, but that was then and this is now, and if it happens again, I would probably go for it. Moral and ethical values change over time, not just from person to person. There's no right or wrong answer.

[deleted] · 2014-03-22T22:11:03+00:00

Mate guarding isn't weak. If a man is flirting with your woman around you, it's a sign that he doesn't see you as a threat. Punishing both man and girl will save you trouble in the long run.

batfish55 · 2014-03-23T00:16:57+00:00

Ever notice how attractive women aren't single for very long? No matter how solid her relationship is, EVERY woman ALWAYS has guys on-deck, just in case. Maybe she's ok with you being her potential next.

Should you actually fuck her? Ethically? Do you think she'd have any ethical problems cheating? Fuck no. That's what her hamster's for. Why should you display any ethics when dealing with unethical beings? Besides, if she's down to cheat, she's gonna fucking do it. Might as well be your dick she jumps on.

I will echo the concern about dealing with the husband/boyfriend should he find out tho. That's on you. If she's a drama-queen type, and a lot of them can be, maybe she wants to cheat and use you as an excuse to leave him. Which means she very well may blab to her man on purpose.

Lots of variables. Good luck.

RedPillJohnny · 2014-03-24T15:55:40+00:00

If you think yourself a moral or ethical person...ie. someone who is a "good"person, then hands off, you are offending the manosphere and the bro-code and you are acting like a chick.

On the other had, if you believe in moral relativism or meta-ethics, fill your boots.

VZPurp · 2014-03-22T23:33:04+00:00

Most women I meet swing branches. They don't drop out of the relationship first.

If she's truly attached and you don't have a shot, she'll reject you.

My dating life would be much more limited if I excluded "taken" women, who often don't seem to be really committed at all.

Manuel_S · 2014-03-22T22:52:16+00:00

If you don't know the guy, its not unethical, its competition.

Also you'll be ridding him of an unfaithful woman, better now than after he signs the indenture contract.

[deleted] · 2014-03-22T21:46:58+00:00

As a newbie full of Blue Pill shit, I would say ... I don't know, TRP changed my way of thinking even if I discovered it just a few days ago.

If she's into you, I think you would make a favor to her bf. She will cheat on him sooner or later anyway. Plus, I'm not fazed anymore by all this cheating-thing. From my experience, quite everyone cheats with everyone. Who cares yet?

So I would say go for the kill if you want to. But as I said, my advices may not be relevant at all. Anyway, beware, he might get violent or anything.

mgtow4ever · 2014-03-24T06:10:17+00:00

Nike: Just Do It.

BoyMeetsHarem · 2014-03-23T02:36:43+00:00

Do it, or don't do it. If you don't, some other guy will, so don't feel like denying your impulse is somehow protecting her morality. Just remember what she's capable if she ever tries to turn the relationship into something else down the road.

[deleted] · 2014-03-23T00:02:45+00:00

Moot Court competition, what are you... In law school. No need for ethics there.

Nerd_Destroyer · 2014-03-23T02:21:48+00:00

Step 1: get drunk with her

Step 2: tell her you want to fuck her but she needs to break up with her bf first because reasons

Step 3: solipsism engaged

Step 4: fuck

Step 5: never date her

Title	The ethics of fucking a girl who has a boyfriend
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Date	March 22, 2014 9:26 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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