For those of you following along: After a second date and some (apparently weak) text game, I had a third date.

The date was dinner at my place, ostensibly for International Day of Woman. I have a couple recipes that are easy and look impressive that I've used with girls a dozen times. She was really impressed with dinner. Every guy should have a meal that he can make that looks complicated to DHV.

After that we went to the couch to fool around a bit. Last time that I was here with her I hit plenty of LMR while doing what I usually do... So time to try something new! I pulled out the reddit playbook. For me, this is what abundance mentality means: There are so many girls out there that I can try something new and if it doesn't work, no big deal, I'll go get another.

She was hot and bothered but she wouldn't let me take off any of her clothes. None! So I tried to "tune" myself to her LMR. I'd guess when she was just moments from putting the kibosh on my moves and I'd pull a frogma. Sometimes I'd just retreat to the other side of the couch, other times I'd make up some excuse (water, more wine, forgot the stove) and actually get up and walk away, often with her writhing for more on the sofa. Sometimes she'd try to pull me close and I'd put up some resistance to talk about the music.

I tried something else new, too. Sometimes I'd ask, "Do you like it when I do this?" then kiss her neck, for example. I thought that it might help if I could get her saying yes to small stuff so that she'd say yes to increasingly bigger stuff. I think that it helped. In retrospect, I'm uncomfortable with using the same tactics that the VietCong used on POWs. :-/

I tried and retreated like 10 times. It was ridiculous but it was working. Each time I'd make more progress but just barely. Eventually, somehow, we ended up in bed, in underwear, for a massage. Things got close, there was a lot of touching, but beyond that she just wouldn't. Frogma wrote that with some girls at some point there's just nothing to be done. Maybe that's what happened because it was like a brick wall.

It feels like too much work for something that would happen next date anyway. Also, I've lost respect for her because, fuck, she's having fun and she's no little girl; why so uptight? And I could have gotten to sleep sooner. I don't think that I'll put in as much effort next time when I know that I can just wait for the next date. For a one-night stand, though, definitely. This is a tactic for one-night stands, not for a girl that thinks she's on the way to LTR.