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Why so sensitive? Jeez, sometimes it's like Oprah here... Anyway, whatever you decide, I promise that in five years from now you will either... ...be sad that you never even had sex with her. ...be happy that at least you had sex with her. By the way, if she wants to sleep with you and you're not giving her what she wants, maybe you're not such a "genuinely nice guy", eh?
/r/seduction26/04/11 03:16 PM
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Chuck it unless you really like hanging out with her. Time is too valuable to waste.
/r/seduction20/04/11 01:27 PM
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Sounds expensive!
/r/seduction20/04/11 01:25 PM
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It's hard to be witty on the spot. It just takes practice and good state helps, too. I still hold that it's more important to have good game over the 5-10 hours that you're getting to know her than it is to have a couple witty remark.
/r/seduction17/04/11 03:25 PM
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"you need to do ANYTHING this girl tells you to do tonight" Response: Okay, but she told me that we're having a threesome with you! Her shit would have thrown me off, too, for the same reason. Gotta fight back!
/r/seduction17/04/11 03:20 AM
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It's such a standard by now, I've read this many times.
/r/seduction17/04/11 03:18 AM
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Girls are always late Just tell 'em: It's not mine! We used a condom! You're a cheating whore!
/r/seduction15/04/11 11:15 AM
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Fuck it, tell her afterwards, lol. But probably won't have to!
/r/seduction14/04/11 12:51 PM
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Oh and after a few drinks she told me i looked like her ex. I read that as, "Oh and after a few drinks she told me i look like the kind of guy she fucks." Sounds less weird and more awesome now, right?!
/r/seduction14/04/11 12:48 PM
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Saying a witty line is overrated, too. Having a quick, sharp wit is nice but you're not going to get laid with one perfect sentence. It's more important to string together a nice conversation.
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:24 PM
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I've noticed this on myself, too. I think that when I speak foreign languages I'm also less inhibited.
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:23 PM
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But my lips hurt real bad! Had to be done.
/r/seduction13/04/11 01:20 PM
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And women are talking to him anyway. It's like he gets extra points for difficulty.
/r/seduction09/04/11 03:44 PM
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how much will you fail until you get it down pat? You always fail, you just fail less frequently and only under more difficult circumstances. how do you view unsuccessful attempts? Failing hurts less than the regret of not even trying. I've experienced enough of both to know that it's true. So everytime that I fail I think to myself, "Phew, thank God I at least tried, otherwise I'd feel really horrible! Instead I'm just a little bummed." (By the way, go ahead and think about bench pressing weigh…
/r/seduction07/04/11 04:25 PM
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Repeats don't count.
/r/seduction07/04/11 04:18 PM
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An experienced PUA should be able to see the movie and point out all the spots where life/love turn out nothing like what Hollywood imagines.
/r/seduction07/04/11 04:16 PM
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I agree that it's good to sow some oats before settling down but, just to offer counter-point, it's a fact that having more sexual partners before getting married is linked to increased divorce rates. As for "The One", I think that there is no "The One". There are a whole lot of potential mates well-suited to be with you. And some might not be exactly suited but are close enough and that's okay, too.
/r/seduction07/04/11 04:03 PM
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My friend once said it like this, "If you want the same thing over and over, date a bunch of girls. If you want something new, date one girl for a long time."
/r/seduction07/04/11 03:58 PM
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Yes. And from her perspective, she may have been giving off other signals and body language indicating that she wasn't seriously interested and she expected that he'd be able to see that. They say that girls are better at reading body language. They don't always realize that guys might not be as good, so we miss what they might consider obvious.
/r/seduction06/04/11 09:14 AM
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Just to play devil's advocate: I really do enjoy hanging out with this girl, but physically, nothing is happening If you're having a good time and you didn't have better plans that night then going out with her was the right thing to do, even if you're not getting laid! But are you really having a good time despite the frustration? Is it good enough? In your stead, the frustration over not getting some would sour the night and I might cut things off.
/r/seduction06/04/11 08:38 AM
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I did read it. It begins with the shitty first impression that he creates: "I will do shut to make you comfortable and you will tease me in exchange." Then he tries to change course but she throws a tantrum. They play some power games and he gets a hug (woohoo! H-close!). tree of awesome Aweosme would be if he had sex with HB8. Playing power games is just wasting time.
/r/seduction04/04/11 10:04 PM
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Call her instead. Problem solved. You can invent reasons why SMS is more appropriate but the truth is that you're often just too scared to talk on the phone. Sack up.
/r/seduction04/04/11 05:32 PM
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I express some empathy [...] I rub her sholders and back [...] I block the wind She is her dady's princess girl [...] and had shit handed to her all her life Seems that you and dady have a lot alike. She pegged you as "the guy that does stuff for me", including listening to her crap about her ex. Just stop doing shit for her and suddenly you're her rare, 1-in-a-million guy and she'll want you... if you can still be bothered with her shit. She's probably a lousy lay.
/r/seduction04/04/11 05:17 PM
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I'll defer to your greater experience, let's assume that girls act differently depending on the situation. The comic is suggesting that the "nice guy" shouldn't hit on a girl in the club. But that same girl, he can find her in a market and there he should hit on her. This is the part that doesn't make sense. If she's good for him, he should be trying to meet her wherever she is! The comic's advice is as often good as bad. It's cute but I wouldn't take her advice.
/r/seduction30/03/11 06:06 PM
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I don't like this kind of thinking. The idea that there are girls that go to the club, girls that go to the market, and little overlap. Or that the same girl goes from one to the other and changes her personality drastically. I don't see it.
/r/seduction30/03/11 01:03 PM
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What does this comic have anything to do with the time of day? Some sort of Jekyll/Hyde thing? People don't change radically with the setting of the sun.
/r/seduction30/03/11 12:58 PM
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To be fair, no one has any idea what they want. People are poor at predicting what they will want. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/gcw6l/shit_testing_ways_to_spot_it_and_react_it_to_it/c1moinr
/r/seduction30/03/11 12:55 PM
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Open question: Seems like everyone knows what peacocking is nowadays. Do guys and girls see it and get turned off thinking that it's a blatant attempt?
/r/seduction29/03/11 03:12 PM
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I like how it works as a neg but a book feels antisocial to me.
/r/seduction29/03/11 01:14 PM
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I don't know why you'd want to do any of these but you missed the obvious: fireman's carry. While she's standing, get on one knee, put your right arm between her legs and your left arm over her right shoulder. Lift her with her chest to your back. This is hard with heavier girls Yeah, but why are you lifting them up? ;-)
/r/seduction28/03/11 05:05 PM
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She leads me to the bar and buys me a beer [and] a shot Not so well played you say? I say, "Well-played!" Were it I, this would be a close second to the best event of the night!
/r/seduction28/03/11 12:41 PM
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Girls don't know what they want consciously. Even if they did, they wouldn't be able to explain it. And even if they could, they'd lie about it. And if they didn't lie about it, it would defy logic such that you wouldn't understand it. Trying to call a girl on her shit tests is pointless.
/r/seduction28/03/11 12:19 PM
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(FRs are generally too long and boring. I like the rage comic format!) The feeling of the wasted opportunity hurts like five times more than the feeling of approaching and getting blown out. Remember that for next time!
/r/seduction28/03/11 12:01 PM
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Take it from a guy who has dated plenty 30-somethings: If a girl is in her 30s and still single, there's a reason! She's still licking her wounds after a break-up but she's comfortable enough to go to your apartment? She goes to a party with you but socializes with others? She's not comfortable enough to kiss you but she'll dump her emotional break-up shit on you? She didn't realize that it was a date? She is a fucked-up girl, maybe got out of a fucked up relationship? You were caring and kind, …
/r/seduction27/03/11 05:06 PM
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16/20, apparently everyone else is doing better than me! I was mostly calling the genuine smiles fake.
/r/seduction26/03/11 10:21 AM
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For starters, we can encourage. Stop playing Warcraft, stop watching TV, go join a gym, go to the library, stop eating garbage. A lot of people think that they don't have time for all that because of school, work, etc. Bullshit. Make time.
/r/seduction25/03/11 09:27 PM
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From what little I've read and heard, Michael Marks is saying the equivalent of, "Everyone else is selling snake oil except me, buy my snake oil." Either he believes in this stuff and he's yet another "teacher" or he's calling bullshit on them and himself, too. He must be an egotist to imagine that his particular method is the real one.
/r/seduction25/03/11 05:31 PM
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Teach guys to actually have the value that they're trying to demonstrate. Exercise, travel, read, paint, learn...
/r/seduction25/03/11 05:14 PM
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Guys also need to hit the gym. In fact, the gym is mostly guys and they seem to be working harder than the girls there. Guys are also in the office more hours and expected to have better careers. Getting liposuction is easier than getting a nice promotion. A lot of my guy friends are educated, artistic and athletic. Nowadays I'd kill to meet a girl that was even 2 out of 3.
/r/seduction25/03/11 02:52 PM
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I think of it like one of those video games where one side is the humans and the other side is the Klingons or Orcs or whatever. The sides are different but each has strengths and weaknesses that balance things out.
/r/seduction25/03/11 02:46 PM
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Pee standing.
/r/seduction25/03/11 02:43 PM
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every time I feel like I'm trying the techniques described here, I end up feeling extremely false I feel that seddit sometimes over-emphasizes witty remarks and opening lines. AskSeddit questions are often "What do I do in this situation?" with the popular answer being some witty/cocky retort. It might be because most people have trouble with opening. The Mystery Method says: The game is played in comfort. Meaning that the witty opening and the negs are just to get your foot in the door. I think…
/r/seduction25/03/11 02:39 PM
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My guess, these guys might have a poor sense of observation. Some guys can't read body language well enough to notice that they're losing the audience. This is why studying body language is key.
/r/seduction24/03/11 11:35 PM
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יֵשׁ פֹּה עוֹד תֵּל-אָבִיביִם? בּכֵיף! ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction24/03/11 06:21 PM
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the caliber of messages most women send are abysmal That's because men are just looking at the photos anyway. Those, too, are often abysmal. she short-circuited my plan and asked if we could detour quickly at my place Sounds like she closed you on the first date.
/r/seduction24/03/11 05:51 PM
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No time to go out plus no confidence to approach means that you're not getting opportunities and the ones that you get, you're missing. I think that instead of trying to cope with those, you should try to solve those. Figure out why you don't have enough time to go out. Figure out why you're afraid to approach. Don't learn to cope, rather fix the problems.
/r/seduction24/03/11 11:59 AM
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Could be. This girl was on D. Arms crossed over her chest, legs crossed, one word answers, stuff like that. Also, not very good looking. The model's target was alright although tattoos turn me off.
/r/seduction24/03/11 10:55 AM
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I thought of that, too! But then, why did he and his friend approach her and her friend? He definitely made the effort to walk over, sit at her table, and talk.
/r/seduction24/03/11 10:54 AM
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יש פה עוד תל-אביביים? בכיף!
/r/seduction24/03/11 10:53 AM
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Also, weightlifting builds character that will help you with girls. Deadlifting for max weight makes approaching girls look like a walking in the park. Everyone on seddit should be working out.
/r/seduction24/03/11 07:53 AM
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Good point. That definitely would have been difficult, even if he wasn't famous. I was getting too comfortable just watching. I did open her friend earlier, however, and said friend was a total bitch!
/r/seduction24/03/11 07:42 AM
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Not only does it happen, girls are able to rationalize after the fact that it was justified. Don't even bother trying to convince a girl using logic that she has acted unfairly, it's a waste of time.
/r/seduction23/03/11 11:49 AM
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Sometimes it's better to let a chump shoot himself in the foot than try to deal with him. If you try to fight for her, she'll feel self-important and you might come off as too aggressive. Both bad. But if you let him do his thing, she might see that he's a chump and you will look better in comparison. Nonetheless, that sinking feeling when the chump starts talking to your girl... no fun!
/r/seduction23/03/11 09:47 AM
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Just read the whole thing! It's not that long.
/r/seduction23/03/11 09:25 AM
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Thanks for posting this summary, but the book may have left out the most essential aspect of body language. Actually, almost everything you wrote is in the book.
/r/seduction23/03/11 09:23 AM
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I want to get a kiss out of passion, not by dating loophole.
/r/seduction22/03/11 06:26 PM
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The smiley was originally invented to help people know when a comment was meant to be sarcastic because sarcasm doesn't work well on the internet. That's how I use it. This is small shit. Don't fret over this.
/r/seduction22/03/11 06:09 PM
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This is the most unrealistic part of the movie: Autumn shows up and he gets to start over. As if karma was rewarding his obsessive behavior by giving him another hot girl.
/r/seduction22/03/11 05:43 PM
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I disagree. Women that want an LTR and want to dance have to go somewhere. Where else will they go?
/r/seduction22/03/11 03:59 PM
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Seems like her girlfriends are more likely to side with her than with you. I'd like to hear from people who've tried this how often it works.
/r/seduction22/03/11 03:56 PM
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I was referring to the YouTube clip.
/r/seduction21/03/11 04:52 PM
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Eating food? I wondered, too. Maybe it's a British thing? I, too, didn't like the appologizing.
/r/seduction21/03/11 12:27 PM
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They say that you can't give consent when you're drunk but let's be honest, there are levels of drunk where you still know what's going on. If she wasn't that drunk, I'd go for it. When in doubt, always pick the option that will make for the most interesting FR.
/r/seduction21/03/11 04:31 AM
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Completely ridiculous.
/r/seduction21/03/11 04:06 AM
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I have three levels, from best to worst: dateable: You'd date this girl (and sleep with her, of course). fuckable: You'd sleep with her but you wouldn't date her. unattractive: Neither. Let's be real: There are girls where you'd hit it and quit it, amirite?
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:35 PM
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The OP is talking about "practicing" on HB1-4, like these girls are some sort of stepping stone to be discarded like kleenex and I'm the "shallow fuck".? Read the rest of the comments in this thread!
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:32 PM
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I like "give me your number" more than "if I could get your number" because it's more of a statement than a question. I think that usually that kind of thing doesn't work because you need to first build up some rapport. Some guys don't need to but those guys are Johnny Depp. :)
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:28 PM
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Okay, practicing in the little leagues can make sense, I agree. But if you're already doing okay with attractive women, don't aim lower. It can get depressing to date down. there are interesting people who happen to be unattractive. By "attractive" I meant physically/mentally/emotionally. All of it. I don't want to hang out with guys nor girls that are stupid and boring and ugly. This is why people think this sub-reddit is full of shitheads. They might be right.
/r/seduction20/03/11 03:59 PM
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His plan for meeting a girl involves waiting around for her? Not alpha.
/r/seduction20/03/11 02:05 PM
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off-hand comment...Imagine you're riding the train with a friend, and she's the friend. Awesome!
/r/seduction20/03/11 01:26 PM
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she meets a dude at a club - why would she get to want to know him? Let women figure out why they won't screw you, don't do it for them.
/r/seduction20/03/11 12:51 PM
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I don't: Practicing in the little leagues won't prepare you for the majors. Why not just go after the hotties instead? If there are no hotties then I can read or sleep. Ugly girls aren't necessarily easier. Sometimes they're just uglier. I don't want to be seen with an ugly girl. I don't want to get used to hanging out with unattractive people.
/r/seduction20/03/11 12:47 PM
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Most girls are going to the club to meet a guy (not necessarily for sex on the first night). They won't admit it to themselves. Don't mistake what girls say for what they really feel. It's not that they're lying to you, more like lying to themselves to convince themselves. Kinda like, "Tomorrow I'll start the diet!" or whatever.
/r/seduction20/03/11 12:34 PM
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Understand that all girls tell this to themselves and believe it. But clearly some of them are meeting guys and going home. I have slept with a few girls that say exactly this. I bet frogma has slept with dozens! :)
/r/seduction20/03/11 12:31 PM
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He's recommending that girls avoid guys that dress well, groom themselves, work out, or purchase alcohol. Good luck ladies!
/r/seduction20/03/11 11:41 AM
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I prefer LTR's with chaster women I couldn't disagree more. In my experience, any girl that's been with fewer than 5-7 partners is a lousy lay, insecure with her sexuality, and lacks confidence both in bed and out of bed. I'd like to see a poll on /r/sex to see what the people of sexxit want.
/r/seduction20/03/11 09:06 AM
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The fact that other women find you attractive will only make her want to be with you more. Social proof and jealousy. You have nothing to worry about.
/r/seduction19/03/11 03:50 PM
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You did great, don't beat yourself up! Even when you do everything right, something things don't work out. Take comfort in the fact that the friend was probably ugly. And her lack of confidence means that she's probably a bad lay.
/r/seduction19/03/11 12:28 PM
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In your place, I wouldn't have let some drama-queen waste my time with her damn stories. As a rule: I don't have to listen to your bullshit unless we're fucking. But you got an interesting night out of it so that's good! I should have made her buy me a drink. I read the whole thing waiting for you to make her buy you a drink. And it didn't happen! Collossal letdown. You have to extract value from these situations!
/r/seduction19/03/11 11:33 AM
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If the girl is giving out her number and not getting called... Well, it isn't because she's SOOO attractive.
/r/seduction19/03/11 11:19 AM
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Sometimes behind the bitch shield there is a bitch.
/r/seduction19/03/11 12:05 AM
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they were complaining how they NEVER get approached (they are attractive girls) Usually when girls complain that they aren't get approached, they're complaining that they aren't getting approached by guys that they find attractive. These girls probably get hit on a lot, they just don't count it if he's ugly.
/r/seduction19/03/11 12:01 AM
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Are you somehow making clear your intentions upfront? When you go out with these girls, what are your intentions? I'm not judging you, just want to know your goals.
/r/seduction17/03/11 04:18 PM
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Don't appologize to me. You learn, that's good. What if you'd said, "Really? I've never seen Jersey Shore but I heard that it isn't very good. Why do you like it?" If she's passionate about the show, she'll want to talk. Now you've got her passionate about something. Good! Later toss out, "Maybe I should watch an episode some time. Is tonight's a good one?" Maybe she'll invite you to go watch it with them? Just HB6, no biggie. The bar is full of those.
/r/seduction17/03/11 03:22 PM
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I want for girls to come with past date references so that I can read where some guy wrote, "We didn't click but she's awesome," or, "Prepare to hear a whole lot about her cats, bro." Get rid of most of the checkboxes like hair color, eye color, hair length, etc. Fucking waste of space. Photos front and center, that's what we want! Online dating sites try to dial down their online-ness. You could dial it up! Let me mass message girls. Let girls see our photos in a grid and rank us into a persona…
/r/seduction17/03/11 03:12 PM
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I tell the first girl "30 seconds ago, I thought you were cool" and walked away. Why would you say that? :( Did it make you feel better? Stomping on girls to make yourself feel better isn't cool. I'd rather be the guy that makes everyone feel better when I'm around.
/r/seduction17/03/11 03:04 PM
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Sounds like fear wasn't his problem. He was fearless. They say that public speaking is a common fear and he had that conquered. What he missed was observation. What he was doing wasn't working and apparently he didn't notice. There is material to learn how to judge what people are thinking by what they say/do. Everyone has a sense of this instinctively but some are better tuned. The lesson is that if you've got guts but it isn't working, maybe you need to work on your observation skills.
/r/seduction17/03/11 02:38 PM
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Taking it apart: She wants to feel like you are so enthralled by her presence, you can’t wait to find out more about her. If you want to be her puppy dog or her slave then yes. If you want to have a relationship, don't fucking do this. The woman sitting across from you wants to feel like you only have eyes for her. [P]retend the gorgeous blonde at the next table doesn’t exist. As soon as she knows that you're on the hook, she'll stop making an effort to win you. And if she doesn't have to work t…
/r/seduction17/03/11 02:24 PM
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If you think that shaving your chest is going to give you an edge then you might have confidence issues.
/r/seduction17/03/11 02:18 PM
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The girls of 4 universities, all on one island. And hot and multicultural. Count me in for jealous!
/r/seduction17/03/11 02:12 PM
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Much of it applies but I think that the best thing that you can do in high school is work on what they call "inner game". Do sports, get cultured, get smart, get hobbies, gain confidence, etc. Make yourself awesome. Also, an article by Dan Savage for teens
/r/seduction17/03/11 12:03 PM
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When I see a guy like that in real life or on TV, I hurt inside. Who's was that hot actress?
/r/seduction17/03/11 11:42 AM
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You can get blown out 5 times in a night, kiss 3 girls and take 1 home but you'll still always wonder about that 1 who you never approached. I've got one-that-got-away memories from months back! Remind yourself how bad it feels the next time that you are in this situation so that it won't happen again.
/r/seduction16/03/11 04:32 AM
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Not just women, but people in general are not good at predicting what they want.
/r/seduction15/03/11 08:51 PM
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This happens when you leave college. Until you leave college, everyone is the same person: sleep, food, study. After college you have the time and money to pursue careers and hobbies and differentiate.
/r/seduction15/03/11 08:11 AM
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Hookers are less expensive and better in bed but sometimes you want the challenge of an amateur. buying renting hookers FTFY.
/r/seduction13/03/11 03:36 PM
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avoid fucking up my social circle I read a lot of post about guys worried about fucking up social circles but I don't read any posts about guys that fucked up social circles. Makes me think that the worry is unfounded. Hell, I've fucked mutual friends and it doesn't affect anything. So go fuck shit up. Make a move on a girl. It will probably not ruin your fine-tuned social interconnections.
/r/seduction13/03/11 03:33 PM
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Women are as into casual sex as men ...when the man is Johnny Depp.
/r/seduction13/03/11 03:25 PM
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Try to resist your natural cockblock urge to sabotage your friend when you notice yourself alone at the bar.
/r/seduction13/03/11 02:10 PM
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Once I invited a girl over to see my Cyclamens. Worked.
/r/seduction13/03/11 02:07 PM
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"Really? I thought it looked cute when I put it on." Sounds too much like giving in to other people's opinions. A guy should have confidence in his (clothing) decisions.
/r/seduction13/03/11 01:59 PM
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You did well. Not much to do about WoW dude if she seemed genuinely interested in the conversation. But he's playing WoW and buying her drinks: He's a tool. Try, "I gotta go, give me your number and I'll call you," while he's there. Couldn't hurt, right? She's into WoW, don't knock it even if you know that it's retarded. Another option after someone comments on your clothes: Look at her face, scan down to her shoes, then back up to her eyes. "You're giving me fashion advice? Thanks anyway." Don'…
/r/seduction13/03/11 01:56 PM
0

Learn karate.
/r/seduction13/03/11 01:03 PM
3

What is the best way to introduce yourself to a girl? handshakes are aaawkward Kiss once on each cheek. It's only weird if you hesitate so do it with confidence. Her right cheek first. (This might be euro-trashy where you live?) it felt awkward walking into different rooms and have nothing to open with "I'm the DJ. Sup?" or "...worst disaster since Godzilla" or listen to the current conversation and chime in with something relevant. hip motherfucking hip Too try-hard. :( We've all been there, ma…
/r/seduction13/03/11 01:00 PM
8

The idea is at least a few decades old. FDR had a list.
/r/seduction13/03/11 12:36 PM
1

Both.
/r/seduction13/03/11 09:28 AM
1

What's star fucking?
/r/seduction13/03/11 04:36 AM
5

You asked a girl over and she said yes? And now the two of your are alone, in your home? Okay, try this: Do the thing that you invited her over for (dinner, movie, whatever) "Let's go to the couch." Kiss Sex Seriously, she's at your place! Tap that!
/r/seduction13/03/11 04:27 AM
1

Can I hang out at your place?
/r/seduction13/03/11 04:25 AM
9

Kino works best when you follow these 3 simple rules: Be handsome. Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.
/r/seduction13/03/11 04:19 AM
6

Yes, but the girls notice that it seems like Chuck is hitting on everyone. It's clearly not casual.
/r/seduction13/03/11 04:19 AM
1

you're not supposed to have oneitis and such, and I don't ಠ_ಠ
/r/seduction12/03/11 03:47 PM
1

That's a pretty open-ended question! Basically treat it like any other LMR.
/r/seduction12/03/11 03:43 PM
1

A good wingman is better than soloing. Soloing is better than a bad wingman.
/r/seduction12/03/11 01:56 PM
2

He wrote: telling me to be more social girls is equalivent to telling an depressed man to sack up and be more confident This is what the material is mostly step-by-step.
/r/seduction10/03/11 09:54 AM
2

Could you share how you got over your own personal racial mental block? Your issue is race and maybe height. Some guys are fat, some are bald. Start by realizing that everyone has some issue. Which issue is irrelevant. The technique that works for one issue works for the others, too. The good news is that most PUA material is designed for you. Instead of saying "sack up", it's broken down into step-by-step material. Imagine a psychiatrist with a depressed patient. Instead of "get it together" he…
/r/seduction10/03/11 09:45 AM
6

Roissy is deeply jaded and probably a sociopath. I wouldn't read too closely. Never say ‘I Love You’ first Just say it when you feel it. Hopefully that's after you two are already in a committed relationship, past "The Game". another woman, a safety net, to catch you in case [...] divorce He's saying, have a couple girls on the side while married. Hopefully this is not your marriage. The rest seems okay. One more commandment: Don't be Roissy! He got married young to a virgin, they split because …
/r/seduction10/03/11 09:22 AM
1

No effect. Try to get hitched before you turn 30.
/r/seduction10/03/11 08:59 AM
1

In my country, we celebrate that, too! We call it "Saturday". ;-)
/r/seduction10/03/11 07:15 AM
1

We're both very out of college and in our 30s. When you get older you can look forward to girls that are sometimes almost as sexually confident as you. Also girls that are more assertive and know what they want. Sometimes they assert how they want the sex and sometimes they assert that it isn't going to happen tonight. I'm saying, though, I'm going to close tonight and I didn't sleep well the night before last. Maybe I should've just waited it out one more date? I could save this stuff for girls…
/r/seduction10/03/11 07:13 AM
1

Could be that she is on her period...Or she is nervous and is having trouble getting wet. Re-reading my FR, I suppose that I was unclear. Sorry. There was a bit of oral, not much, but no intercourse. So no period. she wants to make sure you aren't going to fuck and run That's what I feel. I'll get it tonight. If it turns into 10 dates Never! A girl that makes you wait more than 4-5 dates will NOT be great in bed. Been there, done that.
/r/seduction10/03/11 07:02 AM
2

We kissed [...] infront of alot of people...is that a good thing or a bad thing? I say good. It's social proof. It makes other girls want you more and guys want to hang out with you. How can i improve? Get to the point where it happens like that each time.
/r/seduction09/03/11 01:37 PM
1

Why unofficial? :-/
/r/seduction09/03/11 12:34 PM
2

I got my magnum condoms and a wad of hundreds; I'm ready to plow!
/r/seduction09/03/11 12:28 PM
2

You're right. Wasn't great game and I already had her in the bag. The only thing to be proud of, I suppose, was causing the date to be at my place instead of out at a bar.
/r/seduction09/03/11 09:03 AM
15

wait around for a smart one Forever alone.
/r/seduction09/03/11 08:59 AM
4

We'd already set plans the day before, I just wanted to nail down the time. I was already going to meet her, I just wanted it to be at my place. Don't have to be a bad-ass all the time. Sometimes I just wanna be nice and make dinner.
/r/seduction09/03/11 12:16 AM
7

Just kicked her out of my place and it's 2am. So I guess it wasn't TOO lame.
/r/seduction09/03/11 12:12 AM
1

True. I thought of that but I don't know her well and maybe she doesn't eat fish or something. I didn't want to spend a long time making something and have her not eat.
/r/seduction09/03/11 12:09 AM
5

BTW, does the table format work well? I'm experimenting. ;-)
/r/seduction08/03/11 04:56 PM
1

In school I was a slacker. Something that should have taken 1 hour to learn I'd stretch into 3 because I got distracted. Don't do that. Turn off your TV, stop surfing the internet. You'll have enough time for reading and working out. And you don't need anyone for reading and exercise. Go alone.
/r/seduction08/03/11 04:40 PM
1

I go to the gym alone. Also read alone. Don't need people for that. When I was a student I claimed that I didn't have much time but really I was slacking. Turn off the TV, focus during study time instead of losing attention and spending twice as long on it, etc.
/r/seduction08/03/11 04:38 PM
13

Challenge accepted! The article is light on details so it's hard to refute. The article claims that guy with these 3 traits have been more successful: Narcissism This might just be a symptom of self-confidence. For instance, did you know that people with larger shoe sizes score better on the SAT? It's true, just administer the test on a group aged 10-20. So maybe it's not the narcissism that attracts the women, rather it's the self-confidence that attracts women and also correlates with narcissi…
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:53 PM
1

I've felt this, too. The number of women that I want to date is about 1 per week. Back when I was opening just 2 a week, I was hot for half of them. Now that I can open 10 in a good week, only 1 in 10 are good enough. As you get better at meeting girls, you should become more selective. Also, TIL what lassitude means. Thanks!
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:13 PM
0

I've felt this, too. The number of women that I want to date is about 1 per week. Back when I was opening just 2 a week, I was hot for half of them. Now that I can open 10 in a good week, only 1 in 10 are good enough. As you get better at meeting girls, you should become more selective. Also, TIL what lassitude means. Thanks!
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:12 PM
13

I don't agree that chicks are drawn to douchebags or assholes. I think that AFCs might be projecting negative descriptions on to successful men to mitigate their feelings of inferiority. In other words: He's not an asshole - you're just jealous of him.
/r/seduction08/03/11 03:04 PM
1

Make it more fun for your wing by being his wing next time. You owe him one.
/r/seduction08/03/11 02:24 PM
1

I wasn't even trying to generate conversation. I was just trying to find out if she had any redeeming qualities to make me want to date her again. She was the AFC and I had the bitch shield.
/r/seduction08/03/11 02:12 PM
1

What are you so busy doing that keeps your from working out and reading books?
/r/seduction08/03/11 02:04 PM
2

Next time the check comes: I'll pay the bill. How about you take just the tip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS-7zTzrSAA
/r/seduction08/03/11 01:53 PM
1

Well, my “girlfriend” was drunk and discovered us, she actually cockblocked me That was for the same reason as non-targets in a set cockblock you. In both cases, a girl is about to be at a party <gasp> alone and can't let that happen. Also, you're disqualifying yourself to your wingwoman right off the bat and then she sees you succeed with other girls (DHV and jealousy). It's clear that she'll want you after all that.
/r/seduction08/03/11 01:40 PM
1

When you arrived, you were probably something of a misogynist With the vanishing bitterness will come a new-found respect and appreciation for women Just the opposite. When I was younger I put them up on a pedastal. Later I learned that they are my equals. Now I see that they are usually not even my equals.
/r/seduction08/03/11 07:23 AM
1

Rock climbing gym. She wasn't some fitness freak though she had a naturally waif figure. I think that she's just nutty because she had all sorts of notions ground into her about what's appropriate.
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:56 PM
90

A lot of the seduction advice I read seems to fall into one of two categories... That's because our culture has become lazy. Look at advice for getting in shape: take a certain pill or starve yourself. What actually works is eating properly and exercise but people want results without hard work. Same goes for seduction advice. How do I look like an interesting person without spending time doing interesting things? Total bullshit. Step one to meeting girls should be: become someone worth meeting!
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:43 PM
1

That's encouraging me not to score on the first date. Nor to have sex on the same date as the kiss. Something is wrong! I think that you just get points for each step, period.
/r/seduction07/03/11 10:58 PM
2

That it was the third time with this same B.S. and that I'd already slept with her were major factors in kicking her out.
/r/seduction07/03/11 05:52 PM
3

Repeating it 4-5 times? She would say "no we shouldn't" and then after I backed off she would start touching me. Yeah, I wouldn't have started touching her 4-5 times in a row. I kicked her out because I was sick of that shit and we'd already slept together.
/r/seduction07/03/11 05:51 PM
4

She's actually willing to hop into bed 3 seconds after the shot. It's not reaching her head. It's just the idea of the-alcohol-made-me-do-it. She has issues.
/r/seduction07/03/11 05:49 PM
5

I think so. Some psychological issue where this "we-shouldn't...but-it-feels-so-good" struggle in her brain is turning her on. Why are the nutters the best in bed?
/r/seduction07/03/11 04:00 PM
5

Absolutely! In her brain, she's not into casual sex, it's the alcohol that made her do it!
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:58 PM
1

Go up to a girl, look very serious, shout something in Japanese, and then pantomime taking our a samurai sword and and slashing her. See if you can get her to fall. I saw this on YouTube somewhere where they did it in a mall in Japan. Lots of people played along!
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:55 PM
1

"So... I heard that you're raising penguins in your backyard. Sounds like hard work! Do you find it rewarding?" Say it slowly so that she can digest and finish with that yes/no question so that she can roll with it easily. Let's see if there's a girl cool enough to play along.
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:51 PM
11

Someday I'm going to open a bar, and anyone that pulls out their phone is going to be kicked out. Brilliant!
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:45 PM
8

Dominating in bed, I'm fine, but beforehand... I don't want to feel like I'm forcing her to do what she doesn't want to do. This chick was crazy, yeah. But good in bed!
/r/seduction07/03/11 03:35 PM
2

Maybe? I don't know what that means. :(
/r/seduction07/03/11 02:50 PM
1

You definitely say "uh" a lot. This is a hard habit to kick. Unless you want to work in radio, you can just omit the "uh" from your speaking and leave a pause. It's almost as good as having speech that doesn't pause but much easier. Speaking slowly helps, too, as does deciding what you want to say before you say it. (Did you know that in some countries it's "eh" or "em"?)
/r/seduction07/03/11 02:07 PM
2

I agree. This is why I don't like podcasts, either. The average speed for composing is 19 words per minute. People can read at 250 words per minute and audiobooks are spoken at 150 words per minute. If you have more than 17 readers, time has been wasted. I also like reading and writing. I get enough TV as is. To each his own, I suppose.
/r/seduction07/03/11 02:03 PM
2

I once saw a girl reading "The Game" and I asked her about it, why she's reading it, does she have any pointers for me, etc. I turned "The Game" into my prop!
/r/seduction07/03/11 01:42 PM
2

This works best: You look like Javier Bardem. You live inside of Woody Allen's bizarro mind.
/r/seduction07/03/11 12:32 PM
1

If you she really is a prude then at worst you missed out on bad sex. No big loss.
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:49 AM
3

She might not be a prude. I think that you took a step too big. Somtimes you overstep boundaries. Don't backpedal! Just switch topics abruptly and you might be okay.
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:49 AM
1

I'll write the next one like a story. I've a 2nd date in about 6 hours. :-)
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:42 AM
5

video games do get your brain working So does learning to play guitar, with the latter giving you a useful skill. RPGs or The Sims Go to the gym. Get your pectoralis major to level 70.
/r/seduction07/03/11 11:38 AM
1

Why did no one comment on this? I don't think that people like to read anything too long. The holiday was nearly a week - adding in more story would make it much longer.
/r/seduction07/03/11 10:04 AM
3

Yeah, that's kinda the joke. ;-) Unfortunately, having sex alone is often better than having it with someone else.
/r/seduction07/03/11 09:48 AM
6

I've been holding off because I think that it takes away my mojo. It seems to make me less "hungry" to go out and meet women. But I miss it. I'm having sex and sex is great but sometimes you need the real thing, you know?
/r/seduction07/03/11 04:00 AM
1

Alright guys, I've been sandbagging. I even turned down sex at the end of February to have it in March. FR and points on the way... When What How Running total 3Mar Everything Read FR 19 8Mar Kiss Inexperienced 30-something 24 9Mar digits Met her online, good conversation 25 10Mar date+kiss Girl from 9Mar. Lots of kino during the date, walked her home for a kiss 33
/r/seduction06/03/11 09:06 AM
1

Wait, so if you get her number and then you go out, you get points only for the date or for both? Give examples! :)
/r/seduction06/03/11 09:02 AM
2

http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/fr6vt/fr_with_a_lmr_artist/c1i0syn Fuck, that's what I should have done! Live and learn. Before she stops me, I stop her and back off. Let her move in, get started, and I LMR. Get her accustomed to chasing and not accustomed to stopping us. Brilliant.
/r/seduction25/02/11 07:22 AM
1

Don't wear underwear. Problem solved!
/r/seduction25/02/11 07:16 AM
1

TofuTofu: derp Somehow, it feels good to read that even the best of us stumble sometimes. It means that just because I fall sometimes, doesn't mean that I'm hopeless!
/r/seduction24/02/11 11:16 PM
1

What's so "alpha" about... How you do it is more important than what you do. In this specific case, the club was closing and the guy had just seconds to get in there and make a move. He figured that any move would be better than no move. I don't think that it worked that time but it worked sometimes. He was an animal.
/r/seduction24/02/11 11:03 PM
3

I feel that. "PUA", 2-sets, push/pull, etc. It sounds silly but it's a convenient way to speak so that everyone knows what you mean.
/r/seduction24/02/11 10:57 PM
3

Attaboy. Next time have sex in the classroom instead. My rule of thumb is this: Anything the girl is willing to do, you must be willing to do also. I never want to be in a position where she is more sexually liberal than me, both because I look like like a prude and I feel like a prude. It might take just days, maybe weeks or even years, but eventually you will regret that you didn't get to have sex in a classroom!
/r/seduction24/02/11 02:28 PM
7

TofuTofu: Anyway, why are you so cold to a guy you just met? You don't even know me. (said with a smile and good body language) HB-Bitch: I don't like guys who speak Japanese but open girls in English. TofuTofu: Oh yeah? Well, I don't like girls who... Fuck you, you fucking cunt! Wouldn't work but it would have felt really good.
/r/seduction24/02/11 08:43 AM
1

... I dont wanna make things awkward. Awkward for whom? Sounds like the situation is already bothering you. What's really happening is that things already are awkward, but only for you. My advice: Go ahead and make things awkward. Ask her out. If she says yes, no more awkward. If she says no then maybe she'll feel weird with you around the friends and go away. Whatever happens, you're going to feel better.
/r/seduction23/02/11 03:51 PM
2

Tried this last night on a date. I spent half the date sitting back and speaking softly. When she couldn't hear, I told her to sit closer. It didn't work. She refused to get closer. I think that she has intimacy issues and wants to take things slowly. This is why I don't like dating women over 30.
/r/seduction22/02/11 10:27 PM
4

This is a gimme. She found you so just dive in: "Hi, my name is Ted. What's up?" You don't need to be a smart-ass or witty. She'll ask what's on your iPod. Hopefully it's something awesome to start a conversation. (If you're name isn't Ted then use your name. Ted's a pretty good name, though, so consider using Ted.)
/r/seduction22/02/11 10:22 PM
3

I decided that I would type up whatever I came up with within five seconds. "You're the man, go be smarter and stronger than me." Given a minute, I came up with this instead: "You're the man, go buy me a drink." If you get a drink out of this, it was fucking worth it.
/r/seduction22/02/11 10:17 PM
1

The video is called "Sexual Harassment & You" The end is like this: Three rules to avoid sexual harassment: Be Handsome Be Attractive Don't be Unattractive
/r/seduction22/02/11 10:12 PM
1

What I meant is, if I convert a chick that I met online into a phone number and a date, does it count? I don't know how much seduction is involved in that! We started on Feb 16 so we're half way to the end of the month. Maybe you can start another post "AFC Challenge Half-time scores"?
/r/seduction22/02/11 08:51 PM
6

I think that a shiner and stiches are great peacocking! (Not worth getting into a fight on purpose for it, of course.) You should use it. What do you say if a guy or girl asks how you got injured? Ideas? Shooting from the hip, I'd say, "Just some jealous dude," and leave them curious for details.
/r/seduction18/02/11 08:24 AM
1

Dan Savage wrote this column for teens. Read it: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=4642012 Now go to a gym, read something good, and do some artsy shit.
/r/seduction17/02/11 09:28 AM
7

digits / "Next time, you can't come to my part of town with calling." <she took my number and called it> / 1pt... about 14 minutes ago When What Details Points 16/2/2011 digits "Next time, you can't come to my part of town with calling." <she took my number and called it> 1 17/2/2011 1st date She was a little frigid and just not hot enough for me to make moves. Fucking uglies will b difficult... 3 19/2/2011 digits (online) "What's up?" 1 21/2/2011 1st date (from online) Quality date and got SMS …
/r/seduction16/02/11 09:52 PM
2

What was your previous profession?
/r/seduction16/02/11 08:08 PM
7

Lately it feels like finding a girl hot enough to even bother with at the bar is a struggle! Girls got fat for the winter! :-( Given that there is a hot and single girl in the bar, maybe 30% of the time I can get a date.
/r/seduction16/02/11 05:28 PM
12

But: I'm in front of the computer at work anyway. Might as well do something useful with my time. There are girls that don't make it to my bars/clubs so this is the only way to meet them. Send them all identical messages to keep it quick. I've had success with this message: ":-)" I haven't seen that customizing a message per girl is more successful than a generic one. The slow part is filtering out the uglies. So many uglies online. If you can re-use that filtering then you're golden. Save time …
/r/seduction16/02/11 05:21 PM
1

clothes came on quickly like they came off. No cuddling involved. With most girls, this is often the best part. She gets the hell outta my house! :)
/r/seduction16/02/11 03:59 PM
6

I wrote a list of tips once, based on my searches on the web. Can't find it at the mo' but it was something like this: On your way to the bar, chat with someone on the phone to get your mouth going. Go to the same place frequently so that you know the staff and can chat with them. Don't settle in with a drink by yourself because you look bad and you'll get stuck. As soon as you get in there, start immediately because it's esay to lose momentum. You probably walked in there and bee-lined for the …
/r/seduction15/02/11 12:18 PM
5

This makes no sense. Hot is hot. If you find a geeky gym rat to be more attractive than a blonde bombshell, then she gets a higher score. I figure like this: line up all dating pool by hotness. Top 10% are HB9, next 10% are HB8, next 10% HB7, etc. HB8 means that she's more attractive than 80% of the girls out there.
/r/seduction14/02/11 03:06 PM
2

Next time you're at a party, if she introduces you as her boyfriend then that's that. Until then, you are allowed/expected to have sex with other girls. There's basically no benefit to "going steady".
/r/seduction14/02/11 02:48 PM
9

incredible 7.5 This girl is hot. If she's so hot and incredible, why just 7.5?
/r/seduction14/02/11 02:13 PM
1

She won't start anything because she's worried about impropriety. Just signal to her with a little kino that you're willing and let her do the rest. She probably will prefer to lead the way somewhat so let her.
/r/seduction04/02/11 08:07 AM
1

51% of men in the U.S. spend more than $100 a month on dates $100/month on dates is only $10 per date if you have 3 dates a week. I think that 51% of men aren't going out enough. :-)
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:36 AM
1

Chicks I meet are crazy bitches You're telling me! :)
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:31 AM
1

Maybe mirror her body language? If she's acting closed off, you too. Sit up but lean back a bit so that she has to lean in. Speak a little quietly, too. Let her get uncomfortable for the same reasons. Maybe she'll open up and then you can mimic it until she's following you? If you're not interested in her then this is the perfect girl to practice on!
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:25 AM
2

BTW, maybe try a more interesting date idea? Art museum or music show then later get ice cream right outside, walk through the park with it, feed the ducks in the lake, etc. Like a series of interesting things to do together instead of just coffee or just movie. Of course, you don't tell her that you've got it all planned out. That would be try-hard. Just mention the first location.
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:20 AM
1

They have it in lots of countries and lots of languages, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_Cab#Other_countries I know two people that have done it and it's very real. After you get the cash they turn off the camera and take it away from your immediately. Only if they actually air your episode do they later contact you and give you the money that you deserve (like most game shows).
/r/seduction04/02/11 07:10 AM
2

Yeah, because buying her stuff can't lose! /s
/r/seduction03/02/11 06:16 PM
18

Try again, this time kiss her. Spooning is more intimate than kissing. If she's willing to spoon, she's willing to kiss.
/r/seduction03/02/11 05:16 PM
1

Even Mystery admits that the game is not played at A1 (or whatever he called it). Opening is just a start, the real fun is after the first 15-30 minutes. So far as I've noticed, the only difference between a LTR and just trying to fuck her is that you call her the next day. As in, up until sex it's all the same, you just keep her around afterwards and voila, LTR. Why do you need to become a different person to meet a quality girl? Hopefully you're already a quality person. Not being a quality pe…
/r/seduction03/02/11 03:45 PM
1

Your "original reason" dose is like 4-5 times a Propecia dose. Maybe if you were taking finasteride for just the hair then you'd have just the right amount of hair.
/r/seduction03/02/11 03:38 PM
1

Co-Ed bathrooms smell like farts. Sometimes you hear farts, too. Still turned on?
/r/seduction03/02/11 03:32 PM
1

I heard that meeting women in Stockholm is really fucking difficult. Is it true?
/r/seduction03/02/11 03:18 PM
2

Some people never stop faking it. I'd like to see more posts encouraging being an "alpha male" and not just acting like one.
/r/seduction02/02/11 02:57 PM
1

"I have to get going, how about we continue this conversation over drinks?"
/r/seduction02/02/11 02:36 PM
2

Notice how all her "improvements" are cosmetic. She didn't really become a better person, she just started faking it. I hope that seddit's focus remains how to be a better man, not how to fake it.
/r/seduction02/02/11 02:34 PM
-2

I guess that was sarcasm? I wasn't trying to be cool, I was just being confident and cocky to see if it could even steal away someone's date. Turns out that it works. I still felt like a dick.
/r/seduction02/02/11 01:42 PM
1

It's like asking why everyone talks about diet and exercise but no one does it: Being a boring chump is easier than upping your lifestyle.
/r/seduction02/02/11 01:31 PM
1

how to act and behave in a cool, confident, and composed way It shouldn't be an act. I forget all facts related to pop culture [...] [I] grew up in the woods This is just a matter of frame. Someone else decided that Britney Spears is more interesting than chopping your own firewood and you bought it. Fuck that! If you had a rope swing that you can jump off into a lake, that is officially better than anything that will ever be on TV. Ever see wild animals? Ever go hunting? Next time bring the con…
/r/seduction02/02/11 01:29 PM
1

I disagree. If everyone I met had confidence and communication skills, it would make my life better. Girls would up their game to match. Currently, guys at the bar are chumps and the girls are boring and fat. Everyone needs to level up.
/r/seduction02/02/11 01:15 PM
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That's a weird combo. You're extra confident in early stages, flirting and talking, but no confidence in the later stages, dating and getting physical. Usually we have trouble opening because we fear getting shut down and later on we're cool when we see that we're making progress. Dates aren't a serious matter so don't treat them as such. It's just like chatting with the girl and that's going swimmingly, right?
/r/seduction02/02/11 12:46 PM
1

Which are the 15 questions?
/r/seduction01/02/11 02:03 PM
1

So which one of my friends do you want to fuck? "Just one of them?" (witty) or "All of 'em except this one." <point to neg recipient> or my favorite: "Are you their pimp?" <look serious, wait for his answer> Check why I love the third response: You answer a joking question with an even funnier one. AMOG is going to squirm to top it! If he says "yes", he just called them whores. If he says "no" then who is he to them, just some AFC? And if he pauses for too long, he lost this round. Pat him on th…
/r/seduction01/02/11 01:58 PM
1

Next her. If you know that you're going to ditch her anyway, might as well run a hail mary. Nothing to lose, right? Be polite but adamant that you want her to come over for dinner and NetFlix. Be willing to walk away if she says no.
/r/seduction01/02/11 01:28 PM
4

suggested hanging at my place and ordering in. Very good! She [...] suggests, instead, that she treats me to dinner in my neighborhood. Fuck! She's 38? She's acting like 18. Maybe she just needs convincing? Respond like this: "Nah, I was hoping for a relaxing night at home. We'll rent a movie, it'll be great!" If she still resists, show willingness to walk away: "I dunno, I kind of need a night in to take it easy. Let's meet some other night. You want to give me a call when you're free?" Either …
/r/seduction01/02/11 01:22 PM
1

2 of the other girls in the bar got naked and made out Down to birthday suits surrounded by a full bar? Is this common in Japan? Details, man, details!
/r/seduction01/02/11 01:09 PM
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There is no such thing as HB4. 4 is not hot. You jumped to kissing before making a real connection. Get at an intimate distance from her face but don't make a move. This will build tension. It also lets her meet you halfway. Q: "You are too drunk." A: "You are not drunk enough."
/r/seduction01/02/11 01:00 PM
1

If you call the second time, she might talk to her. If you don't, you definitely won't talk to her. Calling a second time is the dominating strategy.
/r/seduction01/02/11 12:54 PM
1

She said she didn't want it to be a one night stand meaning she already decided she wanted to fuck him. That's a good point. I still wouldn't want to push her age too hard and make her introspective/depressed. "You've got nothing left" sounded too hurtful to me.
/r/seduction01/02/11 09:05 AM
4

This is a witty way to probably lose the girl.
/r/seduction01/02/11 04:25 AM
2

"I don't want this to be a one night stand." <shocked> What? Did you think that we're going to have sex hook up tonight? No. We're just having some fun. <keep going, don't lose a beat> I thought "have sex" at first but I wouldn't bring up the word "sex" given that all you did was kiss.
/r/seduction01/02/11 04:25 AM
2

Yup. Meeting girls will be easier if there's more to talk about. There will be more to talk about if you do cool stuff.
/r/seduction31/01/11 05:26 PM
3

You still celebrate that Hallmark-card holiday? I will not allow the commercialization of our undying love and the prostitution of our hearts so that florists can swindle us. Threesome. Breakup.
/r/seduction31/01/11 05:16 PM
2

I ask how is she and how her weekend was to which she replies "Good, how was yours?" Hopefully you had something interesting and true to say here. Did you? she's in psychology Don't assume that she's extra-perceptive. Chicks studying psychology are chicks that need a psychologist.
/r/seduction31/01/11 05:07 PM
4

I'm kind of insecure The problem is within but you're looking for a solution from without. This will not work. Improve your looks and self-esteem with some nice clothes and some time at the gym. Eat healthful foods and get more sleep. Play some sports and get some sun.
/r/seduction31/01/11 02:34 PM
5

Put your photo on http://www.hotornot.com/
/r/seduction31/01/11 11:46 AM
1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117802/quotes?qt0333918 Mike: So how long do I wait to call? Trent: A day. Mike: Tomorrow. Sue: Tomorrow, then a day. Trent: Yeah. Mike: So two days? Trent: Yeah, I guess you could call it that, two days. Sue: Definitely, two days is like industry standard. Trent: You know I used to wait two days to call anybody, but now it's like everyone in town waits two days. So I think three days is kind of money. What do you think? Sue: Yeah, but two's enough not to look anxiou…
/r/seduction31/01/11 09:35 AM
2

After 3 dates, I too call it dead. Agreed. Any reason that a girl is holding out is not a good one. Examples: Makes me wait because... ...not a sexual person -> lousy in bed -> break up ...doesn't enjoy sex -> no fun in bed -> break up ...inexperienced -> lousy in bed -> break up ...wants me to work for it -> plays mind games -> break up ...<pretty much anything> -> <not good> -> break up This is one of those cases where you don't know the reason but you know the solution. BTW, calling a girl ou…
/r/seduction31/01/11 09:30 AM
1

Bullshit. If someone tells you that he's closing on the first date more often than not then he's lying or dating desperate uglies or both.
/r/seduction31/01/11 09:22 AM
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You too? Shit, it's like everyone on Saturn has a peg-leg these days. Astro-pirates are a dime a dozen. Learn to do something interesting, like knitting.
/r/seduction31/01/11 09:15 AM
2

Oh I don't think I can handle that, I'm not nearly drunk enough. She was saying there that she wanted to keep the conversation light. You got existential and it turned her off.
/r/seduction31/01/11 09:12 AM
2

They say that she's checking if you have money. I think that it's just an innocent, obvious first question. Your job is probably boring so instead... "what do you do?" "I surf when the waves are good and I also play piano." (Or use other interesting hobbies.) It's coy answer and more interesting than your job.
/r/seduction31/01/11 08:55 AM
1

Facebook has me convinced that most people are on vacation somewhere tropical for about 50% of their lives.
/r/seduction31/01/11 08:47 AM
1

men's white dress shirts Don't wear. It looks like you just got out of the office. Too dorky. Also, skip the blue shirt/khaki pants combo. Again, it's like you couldn't be bothered to get changed after casual Friday. If you want a suit, go loud with a purple shirt and interesting tie. Or blazer/jeans/t-shirt.
/r/seduction30/01/11 10:54 PM
2

Different places have different rules. Find a guy in the club who looks like he has game and copy him. If you're in a college town, a suit will look out of place. Also consider adding in something flash to stand out (peacocking). If everyone's wearing button-down shirts but no one has a tie, wear a tie. If everyone's formal but there are no hats, get a Trilby.
/r/seduction30/01/11 10:51 PM
3

By the way, there were studies that show that in a gorup of guys, the alpha male is the one that's doing the back slapping. When you see your mates, if you're the one that's clapping them on the shoulder/back when you see them, you're the alpha male. Girls will notice.
/r/seduction30/01/11 10:43 PM
11

Another good one for dates: Put your hand on her lower back and sort of lead her through doorways or hallways. Classy move.
/r/seduction30/01/11 10:41 PM
2

Back burner? She tossed me to the curb. What am I gonna do, call her every couple days to "use her for physical stuff"? If she calls, swell. If not, them's the breaks.
/r/seduction30/01/11 10:37 PM
2

Passionate kissing on the first date. Clearly a blowie would have been more sexual but I think that a solid k-close on the first date is reasonable. I tried to keep the conversation spicy. forget about her and move on Damn straight. Goin' out tonight. Edit: Went out, no one with whom I'd bothee chatting. Fat chicks. Maybe better next time.
/r/seduction30/01/11 06:18 PM
1

It becomes natural to move closer to each other. This is the most important part. So long as the two of you are smiling at one another, just walk right over. 3 second rule.
/r/seduction30/01/11 03:46 PM
4

"I hope that it isn't contagious." or "Wanna come over? Wear nothing."
/r/seduction30/01/11 12:50 PM
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I don't want to seem jealous or threatened Clearly you are if you're thinking about it. Could a girl lie about something like this as a test to see how I respond? Yup. Mostly it means that she isn't into you. Otherwise she would hide it from you.
/r/seduction30/01/11 12:46 PM
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"Hey {Takfam}! When are you going to buy us another pitcher!?" "Why don't you buy one for a change, mooch!" or ignore them. Pretend that you don't know them. When your "friends" are bitches, treat 'em like bitches. Not too much because treating your friends like bitches is girl behavior. You don't want to seem like a girl. Next time, don't let anyone take you out of your state of mind.
/r/seduction30/01/11 12:40 PM
1

I'm only separated to some guy by a single CURTAIN Bring her home anyway. Once she's en route chez toi, she has already decided that she wants it. Except for a little LMR, she already knows that it will happen. Where and how is just details. Also, sex when your roommate can hear it is hot. I can't seem to go for the k-close You should always try. There is no downside. If you succeed, great. If she stops you then at least she knows that you are interested and you can try again another day. If she…
/r/seduction30/01/11 12:30 PM
1

People got digits before cell pohnes were invented, you know. Just take her to the counter with you and borrow a pen and some paper from the employee there. Cell phones have made getting digits less cool. Bonus points: People watch you getting digits, social proof.
/r/seduction30/01/11 04:38 AM
1

therawness.com is a good site in general for psychological observations and a lot of them have to do with guy-girl relations. Read 'em all! This post was particularly suited for seddit, IMO.
/r/seduction27/01/11 03:58 PM
3

Just go for it. Tell her that you want to go catch some new movie mid-day. That doesn't feel too much like a date, just neighborly. If she says no then it won't be too awkward afterwards. Don't shit where you sleep. Fuck that. I've had sex with neighbors, co-workers, common friends, sisters, etc. Neither party wants the cat out of the bag so everyone plays cool if there's a break-up. A next-door fuck buddy is super convenient. Worst case, you could move. Finding love is harder than finding a new…
/r/seduction27/01/11 03:56 PM
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Most of the answers here are L'esprit_de_l'escalier. By the time that I thought of any of these it would be too late. I would ignore confidently. That I can without forethought. With enough confidence, everyone else will ignore, too.
/r/seduction27/01/11 03:35 PM
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but never got up the courage to say "Hi" Guys have lots of anxiety when it comes to talk to a girl but girls have even more. It's because guys are more used to getting rejected and losing. The girls that I've met who have found the courage to talk to a guy were really psyched afterwards with their accomplishment. That could be you.
/r/seduction27/01/11 05:47 AM
1

It was a joke. Mostly.
/r/seduction26/01/11 03:17 PM
8

TofuTofu knows this by instinct probably but for the rest of us: Notice how it wasn't "See you tomorrow?" No question mark. "See you tomorrow." It's not a question.
/r/seduction26/01/11 02:52 PM
1

I always thought that the sex was great for them too. Q: How does a real man know if his girl enjoyed the sex? A: A real man doesn't care. Chin-up! You were bangin' hotties. Who cares what one girl thinks? There are billions more! Next time, instead of pics of your cock, post pics of their tits!
/r/seduction26/01/11 02:50 PM
3

I sew. I hate that all my clothes fall apart after just 2 years on purpose. I cook and I eat tons of veggies, kind of girly. I love classical music and jazz. I don't make excuses because everything that I do is awesome. Only a moron would think otherwise.
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:21 AM
2

"See you at ten. Wear something sexy." If she asks why: "Because that's what I like." Save this one for a girl that you know somewhat.
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:09 AM
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Was planning on writing a long elaborated text to double confirm the date and giving her the option to postpone/cancel Yeah! Also tell her that if she prefers your friend, you can send him in your stead! ಠ_ಠ Seriously, don't fucking do that!
/r/seduction26/01/11 10:07 AM
3

Don't write her back. My frame: We're going out tonight. Her action: Flaking. The proper response when someone tries to take you out of your frame is to ignore. I wouldn't write back. Also, what kind of bitch can't even call to apologize? Happened to me last night. Girl flaked via SMS at noon for a date that night because she's too tired. I ignored the SMS. She called later and asked if I saw the message. I said, "Yes." She didn't ask why I didn't respond. She knows why. After she explains herse…
/r/seduction26/01/11 09:58 AM
3

rescheduling is not flaking Sometimes it is, especially when I get fucked. If I tell two other girls that I'm busy in order to go out with some chick and then she bails on me the day of the date, that is bullshit.
/r/seduction26/01/11 09:43 AM
2

Hebrew. I'm working my magic in the Holy Land. The game here is different, too. It took me almost a year to adjust! Don't hate me cuz I'm the Jew.
/r/seduction26/01/11 09:35 AM
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I wrote elsewhere: this was a translation. In English people switch whom/who, me/I, etc and it's just a minor error. In other languages it sounds very wrong. I think that a girl who speaks properly is hot. I've broken up with girls for obscenely poor grammar. (Not that I'm some language genious or something.)
/r/seduction26/01/11 09:32 AM
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Some women will be attracted do you so long as you don't fuck it up, and some women will never sleep with you no matter how much you try There's a lot you don't control You make good points, too, but what do you say to those points?
/r/seduction26/01/11 04:55 AM
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When I turned 26 I moved away from my hometown and decided, "I don't know anyone in this city. Fuck it, I'll do whatever I want." Suddenly I was successful with girls.
/r/seduction26/01/11 04:54 AM
1

The conversation wasn't in English - I translated it for seddit. She spoke with proper grammar so I translated proper grammar.
/r/seduction26/01/11 04:27 AM
13

My friend and his wife were in the room for the phone conversation. He was surprised. Her jaw hit the floor. It was one of my better moments.
/r/seduction25/01/11 06:31 PM
7

I'm not 100% sure myself but I think of it as the narrative of an encounter. It's the underlying theme. In this case, the story was "She wants me tonight" and we're actors in the play. I could have picked a different story like, "We're going to become friends again" or "We both want to give this relationship another chance." If I'm confusing the terminology then someone set me straight.
/r/seduction25/01/11 06:29 PM
3

When I asked this question the best advice that I got was to find a girl sunbathing and ask her if she'll be hanging around for a bit. As soon as she opens her mouth, assume that the answer is yes and drop your stuff near her. DHV swimming or surfing and then return to dry off and talk to her.
/r/seduction25/01/11 05:50 PM
1

Just curious: The three sedditors in Tokyo: Japanese? White guys? And the girls: Japanese? White? Is the conversation in English or in Japanese? Both?
/r/seduction25/01/11 02:38 PM
1

According to the author, it's because the PUA teachers have put women on a pedastal. When they reject a man, he's at fault for not building comfort. When she's a bitch, he needs to learn to respond appropriately. The woman is forgiven any misbehavior as it's just part of the game but the man acting improperly is considered a mistake. The women are taken off one pedastal and put on another.
/r/seduction25/01/11 08:10 AM
1

Plus you get to see how she dances. Girls who dance really are better in bed. While dancing it's a lot easier to tell who's interested in you.
/r/seduction24/01/11 05:04 PM
1

That's a good point. I think that some guys and girls are assholes and will try to make you their bitch just for fun. Is it something that girls turn on like a switch whenever a guy tries to meet them? Maybe she was a bitch in the first place? I don't know.
/r/seduction24/01/11 05:00 PM
1

The author's point isn't that shit tests don't exist. Rather, he's saying that they exist because PUAs are acting unnaturally and that causes women to need to test us. I don't know how anyone could prove that right or wrong.
/r/seduction24/01/11 04:56 PM
1

Everyone's telling you to get over it, and they're right, but they're not saying how... Look around the bar and see crooked ears, big ears, bad teeth, graying hair, thinning hair, boring, stupid, fat, amputee, annoying laugh, bad breath, etc. Make a note of one flaw per guy and girl in the bar. Hope that helps.
/r/seduction24/01/11 03:29 PM
2

Absolutely, but what if due to conflicting schedules you can't meet for another week? Better to bridge the gap with a conversation. Also, blind/internet dates. If she's miserable on the phone maybe I can save some time. 10 minutes should be enough for that, though.
/r/seduction24/01/11 03:12 PM
2

Reddit chick: Have sex with her unless she's fugly. Your ex: Have sex with her again. Don't date her. Just put some good photos. Does anyone read the text anyway? Sack up and do it. Be nice. If she ends up hating you, who cares?
/r/seduction24/01/11 01:55 PM
1

Loud ****ing music. Clubs have always been loud, but every club today has the volume cranked up at a supersonic scale. This makes any sort of verbal game damn near impossible. FYI: Nightclubs play loud, shitty music on purpose. If the music is so loud that people can't talk and so shitty that they can't dance, all that's left is to drink. Sucks, I know.
/r/seduction24/01/11 01:50 PM
2

Another reason that SMS sucks: You send one; she doesn't get back to you. Now what do you do? If you try again too soon, you look desperate. Wait too long and you lose her. On the phone you've got her attention (usually).
/r/seduction24/01/11 12:44 PM
1

A good phone conversation can bridge a gap if for some reason too many days have passed between meeting and going out. That said, you don't want to spend hours on the phone building up too much rapport before meeting for a first date. In addition to being awkward, you set the tone for a platonic relationship.
/r/seduction24/01/11 12:43 PM
3

If 30 minutes on the phone can save me 2 hours on a date, it's worth it.
/r/seduction24/01/11 12:41 PM
1

Never. If you leave a VM and she doesn't get back to you within an hour, do you call again? What about after 12 hours? After 24? 48? You don't want to be a pest but you don't want to give up. You can't win with a message.
/r/seduction23/01/11 02:38 PM
6

This is why hitting on a waitress is miserable. She's being nice because it's her job and she gets interrupted all the time. Some guys will tell you that it's easy to score a waitress. They are full of shit.
/r/seduction23/01/11 12:06 PM
2

It might be that your friend wasn't that into your story or maybe he's just one of those people that gets distracted easily. Seeing as it's just a story, I would let it slide. There are people that will take phone calls while you're talking to them. I find it disrespectful and do my best to either go away or cut them out entirely.
/r/seduction23/01/11 12:04 PM
2

Spoiler alert Into the Wild is a movie about a guy who left home to wander around. He's mostly egotistical and full of himself but charismatic and fun. In the end he dies alone and in his final days he realizes that a life lived alone isn't a good one. When I read that you can't be bothered putting up with other people's bullshit, it sounded like that guy in the movie. He took it to extremes, decided to live all by himself, and only in death figured out that he was mistaken. I wasn't referring t…
/r/seduction23/01/11 11:58 AM
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from that first interaction i was right with all of those people. You probably weren't right most of the time. You're just so sure of who someone is before you meet him that he has no chance to be anyone else. That's unfair to other people. I can't tell if you're genuinely narcissistic or if you're just pretending in order to avoid meaningful interaction, of which maybe you have a deep fear. Either way, you seem pretty focused on yourself. Maybe you should get some help? But I'm no head shrinker…
/r/seduction23/01/11 08:25 AM
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I can't stand most people's bullshit so I don't get invited out much If you're not getting invited out very much, maybe it's because they can't stand your bullshit? Have you seen the movie Into the Wild? Social food services are for people that are genuinely hungry. I don't know about your situation but if you can afford internet and trans-Atlantic plane tickets then you might be abusing the system.
/r/seduction23/01/11 08:16 AM
3

Assuming that she starts with the, "Let's define our relationship" bullshit, I'd try to take things back to the casual level: "Hey, hey, slow down! We're just getting to know each other, not getting married! Jeez! Maybe we should stop if this is too intense for you?" You've shown her that she's more into it than you, putting you above her (the goal of neg/DHV). And you're accusing her of being unable to handle intensity: more neg. And you're offering to stop, a bit of push. She won't want to see…
/r/seduction20/01/11 03:54 PM
9

I stop and say "[...]I'm not looking for a serious relationship." Why did you do that? Later, I tell her "don't expect this to ever lead to a white picket fence." You already said this in other words and it bothered her a lot. You know this. Why would you say it again? She grabs my hands and moves them back... I say "WHOA!" You tell her that you don't want a serious relationship, you tell her no picket fence, you touch her, she says no, she tried to touch you, you say no. Banana bread? No. Did a…
/r/seduction20/01/11 12:03 PM
4

You learn that it hurts less than expected and helps cure your anxiety for the next time.
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:51 AM
4

I find it hard to be social while high on weed. High on coke, however, makes it easy. Seriously, coke is PUA in powder form.
/r/seduction20/01/11 11:26 AM
1

Soloing is crazy difficult if you ask me. A search on the interwebs gave me these tips: Chat with a buddy on the phone on your way there to get your mouth moving. Know some of the staff so that you can talk to them. Start immediately. Keep momentum or you'll get stuck with a beer on a bar stool. Go somewhere busy where it's less obvious that you are alone. Open guys: "Hey, this place is full of guys, where are the girls?" Making this list has made me want to solo!
/r/seduction20/01/11 10:18 AM
1

Many people have no patience for seniors so when someone finally is willing to chat, they're game. I have the patience until they start patronizing me. If anyone knows how to deal with sentences that start with, "When I was your age...", let me know.
/r/seduction20/01/11 10:01 AM
1

My most important one is body language. A girl that is into you doesn't have her arms crossed and her face and chest are towards you, possibly exposing her neck. She's letting her defenses down physically and mentally. You can watch guys try to meet girls from across the bar and tell who is working it and who is failing with just this.
/r/seduction20/01/11 08:25 AM
1

Pretend that you don't understand her. What's a player?
/r/seduction20/01/11 08:20 AM
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She might be one of those girls that gets her kicks from rejecting guys. She's into you because you neg'd her by being the guy that didn't go over. Then again, maybe you're so attractive and they're such losers that she only wants you so she's rejecting all the others. (You wish!) Smile from a distance. If she smiles back, motion for her to come over. It might not work but maybe it's your only hope. If it doesn't work then give her a "whatev, I don't care" look. If she's keeps looking over, try …
/r/seduction19/01/11 12:50 PM
3

Three reasons not to joke about their shyness: They've already got enough anxiety without you making fun of them in front of hot girls. Friends don't do that to friends. Bros before hos. Making fun of your own friends it what girls do when acting "catty" and you don't want to seem like a girl.
/r/seduction19/01/11 12:37 PM
3

It's funny how first date sex followed by no phone call is either: a major bummer or a cause for celebration but never anything in between. I always call the next day after the first time having sex. Seems like the gentlemanly thing to do. Doubly-so if you want her to not feel slutty, like in your case. Is it just me?
/r/seduction19/01/11 12:29 PM
4

I do this all the time, too. If a girl calls it quits on the phone or by SMS, I often ask why. If you enjoy watching her squirm then it's fun but you never get a real answer, even if you persist. But I enjoy watching 'em squirm.
/r/seduction19/01/11 12:27 PM
3

In the 60s and 70s he could have said, "Hi, you're hot. Let's go have sex." and it would have worked just as well.
/r/seduction19/01/11 12:18 PM
2

Just sack up and go for it. Talk to everyone that you meet. It gets better with time. As for confidence, you need things in your life that build confidence. Get some nice clothes, go to the gym more, play some sports, learn piano. It has to come from inside.
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:39 PM
6

What's the URL for real life?
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:32 PM
1

Even if your wing isn't doing well, you need him. Back him up. If your wing disappears while you're on a 2-set, you're potentially fucked.
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:29 PM
1

"us vs them" mentality I don't like this. Guys should back each other up. Stabbing your friends in the back is a girly thing to do and you don't want her thinking that you're girly. As for rules: Whoever opens the set gets dibs on the hot one.
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:27 PM
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Prepare a notepad. First page has a smiley face saying "Hello!": :-D "Hello!" Second page has a face with a finger over his lips saying "Shh!": :-o "Shh!" Third page: ಠ_ಠ Have them all ready ahead of time. Show her the first. She'll laugh. Then show her the second, she'll laugh again. Then the third. Win! Another idea, the pages you write: "Guess a number, 1 to 100. Don't tell me." (wait a second) "Got it?" (wait for her to nod) "Was it 14?" (wait for her to say "no") "NO." (See, you got it righ…
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:19 PM
2

Start with an easier target, bro. She's working there, it's her job to be nice to people. If she's attractive then everyone's hitting on her. Go to a bar and meet a girl that's there to drink, same as you. Easier. As for changing who you are: Whom are you trying to become?
/r/seduction18/01/11 02:02 PM
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Film it?
/r/seduction18/01/11 01:56 PM
3

simple taps What's tapping? Like: <tap on the shoulder> Can I borrow your pen? Or like: "tap dat ass" You should be kissing on the first date, second at latest. My response to "LJBF" would be "Nah, that's cool, I already have plenty of friends." But I am a very bitter asshole so don't do that.
/r/seduction17/01/11 06:22 PM
1

Think of it from her side: She's hot and single and getting asked, "Are you single?" every 10 minutes. All the guys look just the same to her. So instead, you come up to her and just start a conversation, casually, and try to be interesting. Then you notice that she's interested in you and then you ask if she's single. Now you stand out in her mind. That'll up your odds. So: No, it shouldn't be your first question.
/r/seduction17/01/11 06:15 PM
2

dislike a lot of these seduction gurus who are trying to make a buck off True, but that's true about many things. Weight-lifting gurus, martial arts gurus, etc. Just have to filter out the garbage like in any field.
/r/seduction17/01/11 06:12 PM
2

that's one less dude out there possibly learning better game than you A bar full of AFCs, hot girls, and me. Hell yes!
/r/seduction17/01/11 06:07 PM
0

Shaft
/r/seduction17/01/11 01:55 PM
2

The Mystery Method points out that you shouldn't get too sexual before comfort is built. She might be willing to go along while emotional and in-the-moment but when the emotions wear off the next day she'll look back rationally on the event and feel that she went too far, too fast. You could build up her comfort level first by getting to know one another.
/r/seduction17/01/11 01:22 PM
4

Food that has neither garlic nor onions. Even if you don't care, she might get self-conscious. Food that isn't messy nor heavy so that you don't get dirty and you don't fall asleep. Sushi? EddieWalkabout had good ideas for movies: Either a light romantic comedy with sex scenes or a sensual emotional flick that will get her emotional. Pick something that you've already seen so that you don't care if you miss half the movie. :)
/r/seduction17/01/11 12:10 PM
2

Orlando has good weather often, right? Are there outdoor bars that might be more spacious and quiet? Loud dance clubs have advantages: If it's loud then she won't blame you for not being the smoother talker. You can get a number without too much chit-chat. As you're not spending too much time talking, you can get a few in a night. You can watch her dance so you can see if she's got a hot body. Sitting at the bar sometimes you can't tell.
/r/seduction17/01/11 07:03 AM
5

"Sometimes." "Sure, but I'm a bad judge of character." "Yeah, I like... <struggle to find something nice to say> your clothing selection?"
/r/seduction17/01/11 06:54 AM
1

Your friend officially owes you 1 drink and dry cleaning.
/r/seduction16/01/11 01:15 PM
1

Start by turning off the computer and getting out of the house. What do you do? Everyone sleeps, eats, works, studies, exercises. What do you do that is special? Talk about that. If there's nothing special (like 70% of the girls that I meet) then you've got bigger problems than coming up with a good conversation.
/r/seduction16/01/11 01:08 PM
1

Interrupting her mid-phone call is pretty rude, too. You can tell her afterwards, when she finds you chatting with the waitress.
/r/seduction16/01/11 01:04 PM
1

turn my attention to something more interesting ...such as a different girl.
/r/seduction16/01/11 01:03 PM
1

Don't get the impression from others here that it's easy to score on the first night. Even if you have a place to go and a way to get there, she's got friends that are going to anchor her in place and she's going to start changing her mind on the cab ride to wherever. In your situation, though, trying to close first night would be the right move. She's not not enough to want to date her again and you're already past the point of no return with all the groping. Next time get her number to reinfor…
/r/seduction16/01/11 12:57 PM
1

If you want to go young and you think that it'll take a few dates to close then don't lie because eventually she's going to figure out how old you are by the stories that you tell. If she's much older, go ahead and lie. It's probably your only hope. If you can't figure out her age by the time she asks you yours, just ask her to guess. Whatever she guesses is the age that she wants you to be, give or take.
/r/seduction16/01/11 05:00 AM
1

how long have you been an ent? A what? Is this a new slang? How not to act like a mumbling fumbling moron? Take a few huge bong rips. That'll help! /sarcasm
/r/seduction15/11/10 04:00 PM
1

Am I not approaching this correctly? People have an opinion about you and it's stressing you out. That's a bad way to live. Answer these: Who are you? (Are you actually funny-in-kind-of-a-nerdy-way?) Who do you want to be? (Do you want to be FIKOANW?) What do you want people think of you? (Do you want them to think that you are FIKOANW?) What do you project? (Do you act FIKOANW?) What do people think of you? (Do they think that you're FIKOANW?) Ideally, all those have identical answers for any t…
/r/seduction15/11/10 03:52 PM
1

GET SOME QUICK ADVICE: Don't lean on the shift key. Call her. You're the man, that's how it goes.
/r/seduction15/11/10 10:15 AM
1

"Yeah in my pants" You: "Are you going to give me some or should I fish it out myself?" Did you get gum? I would've pushed for it. Teasing you with gum isn't cool. "I love your eyes" Kinda weak. How about: "Anyone ever tell you that you've got a great butt?" If you think that you'll get slapped for saying somethig like then it's only because you've never tried it. so she didnt [introduce me] So wander off and try to meet another girl, preferably one right nearby so she sees it. Too much complime…
/r/seduction15/11/10 10:12 AM
1

he never calls or responds to texts (only once or twice a week) Sweet, 5-6 nights per week that you're free to meet another girl at the bar!
/r/seduction15/11/10 10:02 AM
4

She pauses. You: Stop thinking about football. "Wow, and then what happenned?!" Back to thinking about football. Problem solved
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:58 AM
5

Beer isn't helping? Anyway, next time, just ask yourself, "What could possibly go wrong?" You'll realize that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Even getting shot down feels better than the regret of doing nothing.
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:56 AM
1

She says, "I've got a boyfriend." Most likely she's giving you a sign and that sign is red and octagonal. But if you want to go for it anyway, you say... "Good for you" and pretend like you didn't hear it, just keep talking. "And I've got girlfriend. So what?" and pretend like you didn't hear it, just keep talking. Pause... shocked... "Wait, did you think that I was hitting on you?" Then explain that you're just passing time while you wait for your buddies, your girlfriend, whatever.
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:50 AM
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Movies aren't all bad. Some girls have it in their head that they're not going to have sex until the third/seventh/tenth/whatever date. Think of a movie as an easy way to tick off a date. Plus, you get to see a movie.
/r/seduction15/11/10 09:43 AM
2

It seems to help if, when knocking on the client's door, you are in a porn film.
/r/seduction28/09/10 04:00 PM
3

r/fitness, Let me sum it up for you: Weights: Lift 3 times a week. Work up to heavy weights. You goal is to lift more kilos each day that you workout. Diet: Extra protein, tons of veggies, cut down on processed food and carbs. No more sugar. Cardio: Do it. You might not need it until you get diet and strength under control.
/r/seduction28/09/10 03:51 PM
1

I will be leaving the country soon This is all that matters. When you don't have a lot of time, you have to be direct. Make a move, a big one. Either it works or it doesn't.
/r/seduction19/09/10 02:09 PM
2

Call her up, ask her out. Be clear that it's just the two of you. "I've got two tickets to the concert this Friday. Let's go to the show." Being direct shows that you've got balls. As for normal, so far normal means hanging out with lots of friends and not sleeping with her. Time to change the norm.
/r/seduction19/09/10 02:03 PM
2

Seek out the girls that were sent there by their parents to set them straight. Look for girls with tattoos, piercing, short hair, anything that might be a sign of rebellion. Good luck.
/r/seduction19/09/10 01:12 PM
-5

If you've got money to burn: Tell the girl that you'd like to call her sometime and then give her your spare telephone. No exchange of phone numbers needed!
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:19 PM
0

Taste is subjective. Pick 100 girls at random. The best 10 are HB10, the next 10 are HB9, etc.
/r/seduction14/09/10 09:22 AM
1

"Listen, I had a lot of fun last night but I don't see this relationship developing into something serious. It was great meeting you. Best of luck."
/r/seduction13/09/10 08:47 AM
0

"Let's just be friends" is a pretty hurtful thing to hear, I think. Dishing it out seems unkind.
/r/seduction13/09/10 08:45 AM
2

"You might have seen my mugshot at the post office." (Too witty for most people?) "From right here, we've been in line together for 10 minutes now. Duh!" "You might remember me from such educational films as 'Lead Paint: Delicious But Deadly,' and 'Here Comes the Metric System!'" http://www.area51newmexico.com/simpsons/troy.html (If you're white:) "Yeah, I get that lot. I look just like Barak Obama." (turn your face to the side) "You see it?"
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:23 PM
2

Good! Maybe a little more gentle, though: "Um, I dunno, I've been in a couple movies... <wait while she guesses which> So, you watch porn?"
/r/seduction12/09/10 06:02 PM
1

Common myth: People that don't live in the USA are impressed by people that do live in the USA. If anything it's interesting but it's not a bragging point.
/r/seduction12/09/10 03:16 AM
1

Just say, "the States" or "America". The obvious follow-up, from her, is which state/city and now you're got her asking you questions. That's good. If that doesn't work, well, you're in Sweden. Picking up a Swedish chick is miserable.
/r/seduction12/09/10 03:13 AM
2

Who cares? He gets to sleep alone. Winner!!!!
/r/seduction10/09/10 02:09 PM
12

Paradoxically, dancing like a gay guy makes you more attractive to women.
/r/seduction08/09/10 10:31 AM
5

What would you do? Seek a girl that lives within driving distance that I can meet in person.
/r/seduction06/09/10 02:53 PM
1

So that I don't type it twice, see the other reply: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/d9p30/how_to_communicate_desire_for_friends_with/c0yo7d9 You sound more sexually mature and comfortable with yourself so in your case maybe being straightforward would be best. For a lot of girls, though, being upfront might scare them off.
/r/seduction06/09/10 07:04 AM
1

Don't be a dick, just maintain a boundary. Imagine a conversation with your dentist. You might ask him, "How's it going?" or "Catch the game yesterday?" but you wouldn't ask, "How are you and your wife getting along?" or "I'm in a bind, can you pick me up at the airport?" Friendly but not too friendly. The point is to keep the relationship at a casual level without saying explicitly, "BTW, just so you know, I'm only in it for the fuck." A lot of guys will instead play like they're really into he…
/r/seduction06/09/10 06:58 AM
3

Sounds like too much time and effort.
/r/seduction05/09/10 10:12 PM
1

What did you do about the chick that bailed last minute? I've been in that situation a few times. Get pissed when she bails? Blow it off like no big deal? Call her again? Never call again?
/r/seduction05/09/10 02:33 PM
1

Don't leave a message on voicemail. What if she doesn't call you back within 24 hours? Do you call again and risk looking desperate or wait it out and risk losing momentum? Don't leave a message until you've tried calling at least twice, maybe three times. Even then the voicemail is just a last ditch attempt. Meeting girls at bars is awesome. Best of luck.
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:19 AM
0

there is something inherently hotter about the cougar ...Until you've seen her naked. Time is not kind.
/r/seduction05/09/10 11:15 AM
1

If you're going to see her within the next 2-3 days via mutual friend, wait a bit. Otherwise friend her. If she was into you, she'll remember who you are and say yes.
/r/seduction05/09/10 10:40 AM
2

Mixtape on a cassette? Does anyone even have cassette playing equipment?
/r/seduction05/09/10 10:38 AM
3

She might be okay with a casual relationship but if you put it out there explicitly, she might be turned off. Once you directly say that you want it casual and she agrees, she might start to think to herself that she's a slut. She's wrong, but that's what she might think, and she'll back out. Dates should start quite late at night. No dinner or anything else that involves a lot of talking or commitment. Drinks or movies are good. No touching in public so she gets the impression that this is a pr…
/r/seduction05/09/10 08:17 AM
1

Pretty short for a guy, actually. Around 5'6? He tried a few different messages and this one worked as well or better than anything else. And it's really quick to type.
/r/seduction05/09/10 07:28 AM
1

Don't text, call. If you write her and she doesn't write back immediately, then what? Wait an hour? And if still not, then what? Wait a day? Maybe it didn't go through? Maybe she's ignoring you? Maybe you write her again and she thinks your'e desperate? You won't know. Sack up. Call her. Coffee is okay if you're too young to drink. If you can get into a bar, meet at a bar. The atmosphere is always better, the booze loosens everyone up, and it's loud so that you don't have to do too much talking.
/r/seduction04/09/10 09:47 AM
2

Coke makes you awesome with girls. Weed makes you socially weird. Alcohol eases the anxiety of meeting new people. It's a crutch. If you can do without, all the better. Edit: Seriously, no one mentioned coke? Is coke only for old people now? I'm getting old.
/r/seduction04/09/10 09:43 AM
17

If you want her to lose interest in you, trying falling for her! That seems to work for a lot of guys. :)
/r/seduction04/09/10 09:35 AM
1

My buddy claims that his most successful message to women online is this: :-) That's it. Just a smiley. Go figure.
/r/seduction04/09/10 09:34 AM
4

Supply her less of your attention. Date other girls. When you start to not want her, that's when she'll really want you.
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:56 PM
4

You need a pep talk more than anything. Hell yes you can pull it off. If you don't make the moves on her, she will be insulted. She's subtle but she's assuming that you're getting the point. How do you think that she feels when she's saying yes and you're not making a move? You want to hurt this girl? You don't want to hurt her. She's a good girl. She wants you to make a move and you need to oblige! Don't be a dick, make a pass at her! Just keep reminding yourself when you see her that she wants…
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:45 PM
-1

Every girl that I've ever dated that's over 30 is a little nutty. Maybe I've just been unlucky. I keep going back to them anyway.
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:05 PM
1

You don't owe her an explanation, btw Good point. She knows that it's a shit test and I know that it's a shit test. I got the right answer. I don't have to show my work. :)
/r/seduction02/09/10 02:33 PM
1

Repeat sex is worth less than real sex. ;-) And I was seriously considering giving her a talk, letting her know that this isn't anything serious. Because she is crazy. In retrospect, if I'd dumped her then I'd have an awkward drive back to the bus stop with her. And if it were late enough and the buses weren't running then what? Drive her back home, 30-40 minutes of her picking my brain to figure out why I dumped her? I'd feel trapped.
/r/seduction02/09/10 02:30 PM
3

Regarding dating flight attendants: Depending on seniority they have different schedules. Senior flight attendants get to pick their schedules better. Usually they pick longer flights ($$) and know when they'll be working ahead of time. Junior flight attendants are on-call. They get like 2-3 days off and then like 3-4 days where, at anytime, the airline might call on them to fly. Or not. On call means that she's probably junior. She can still hang out while on call but can't plan too far ahead. …
/r/seduction02/09/10 11:41 AM
3

The longer it takes, the less likely that you'll wait around. If it takes more than 3-4 solid dates, I ask what's up. My modest experience has also taught me: The longer it takes, the less skilled she'll be.
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:07 AM
1

Me. I always pay first dates anyway. Just a couple drinks.
/r/seduction02/09/10 06:46 AM
-1

You don't want to end up in a situation where she runs into any of her girlfriends/boyfriends. "Oh hey, there's my friend on_the_dl. Let's invite him to join us, he's alone. We used to date. His cock was teh biggest evar!" A place with the least chance of running into college friends. No cafeteria. If you're old enough, a place with alcohol because booze is the social lubricant. Somewhere that serves meat so that you don't eat salad like a chick. Bonus, meat tastes good.
/r/seduction02/09/10 03:31 AM
2

I would never drive anywhere to meet someone that I've never spoken with on the phone.
/r/seduction02/09/10 03:25 AM
15

Suck myself? I couldn't reach. If I could, I wouldn't need her!
/r/seduction01/09/10 10:03 PM
2

I'm 33. :( I'm looking for a relationship. Doesn't mean I have to toss my game out the window. Nor pass up an easy lay along the way. A brother's gotta eat!
/r/seduction01/09/10 09:27 PM
8

If she agrees to the bet then I've already won.
/r/seduction01/09/10 09:25 PM
1

Me. I would've paid anyway on a first date.
/r/seduction01/09/10 09:18 PM
1

if you overreact to what you percieve as being a shittest you will look like a total moron True. That's what makes the test so good. He doesn't want to look like an asshole, but doesn't want to look like a push over. In this case, just turn it around. If he said to her, "Can you hold my beer while I take off my jacket?" would she say yes? If they've been chatting for 10 minutes already, yes. If they've never even spoken before, probably not.
/r/seduction01/09/10 03:48 PM
2

The "shit test" isn't about teasing. It might not be on purpose, even, but you're about to show her whether you're a push-over and a tool or whether you have some self-respect. Never in your life do you want to feel like a tool or a push-over. If complying would make you feel like a tool then don't do it. This applies to anyone, not just girls. If it helps, pretend that she's a guy. If a guy that I've known for an hour asked me to hold his spot in line, I would. If he asked me to drive him to th…
/r/seduction01/09/10 03:28 PM
3

The hot ones are all crazy. Barney Stinson on crazy versus hot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zADosF3XoQ
/r/seduction01/09/10 02:57 PM
3

I agree that there's a time and place for going overboard but this wasn't it. Given the right girl and situation, I would try: "Let's bet. Loser has to go back to my room and suck my cock." Half-joke, half serious. ;-)
/r/seduction01/09/10 02:47 PM
1

First up, you the man! You handled yourself awesome! Either move on or give her a chance but... 1. Don't tell her about the BJ. No good can come of that. 2. Don't mess with her head. Maybe one day I'll date her and the girls that I date are nutty enough already. Campsite rule
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:36 PM
5

It's that the people I want seem to have no interest in me Or in similar words: I want the guys that don't want me. Not wanting you is what turns you on about them. That's how a lot of girls work. :(
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:30 PM
3

I've hooked up about 5 times via online. For me it's hit and miss. The good part is that it doesn't take more than 30 minutes of effort to start a dialog with a girl that might be good looking. There are also many girls online that you will never get to meet in person. The bad part is that there are uglies and nutjobs hiding behind seemingly good profiles. You can waste a lot of time on miserable dates. And if you're good at meeting girls in person, being online takes away your advantage.
/r/seduction01/09/10 06:09 AM
5

You just want intellectual conversation but not sex. He looks at young girls and feels just the opposite. Good luck with that.
/r/seduction31/08/10 07:23 PM
3

Are you more likely to respect and pursue a girl who holds off on sex? Imagine a guy that is above average attractive. If a hottie holds out on him, he'll stick around a few more dates because he doesn't have many other options. Now imagine a really attractive guy. He's got plenty of girls lined up to meet him. If a hottie holds out on him he might hang around (respects her) or he might move on to the next girl (gets bored). If a hottie doesn't hold out, he might leave (disrespects) or he might …
/r/seduction31/08/10 01:41 PM
2

If you don't take her then what's your other option? Unless you have an even hotter girl to take, this is a no-brainer.
/r/seduction31/08/10 01:26 PM
7

Girls don't need much game anyway. You see her, she looks good/bad. Whatever comes out of her mouth is/isn't going to work. The reverse is mostly true, too. Either she's into you or she isn't and nothing you say will change that. You practice hitting on girls so that you can meet those few where what you say matters.
/r/seduction31/08/10 01:24 PM
1

I lived in the USA and you're right that appearing aloof works. There. Here if I blow off a girl or make it seem like I'm too busy to go out for a few days then she'll start dating someone else. I was practically a virgin for months because I didn't figure it out. Here, aloof is failing.
/r/seduction30/08/10 05:22 PM
2

I don't work just online. It's a mix of online dating, bars, and getting set-up. The girls that I meet for myself are definitely hotter but getting online opens me up to girls that I wouldn't meet otherwise.
/r/seduction30/08/10 02:54 PM
2

You reminded me of the song "The Battle of Who Cares Less" by Ben Folds.
/r/seduction30/08/10 01:06 PM
2

Well, it's more like, of all the girls that I have a first date with, maybe a quarter of them I'd actually want to have sex with. Sometimes I meet up with an ugly that had a nice profile on the internet or it's a blind date or the bar was too dark. Of the ones that I do want to sleep with, usually I can bag it within 2-3 dates. 1 in 4, though, leave me high and dry so long that I bail out before I get there.
/r/seduction30/08/10 08:10 AM
3

Social proof is good part. I usually meet girls at the bar and I'd rather be at the bar with a guy. Girls never ditch one another when they go out. I once got cock-blocked by a wing-woman because I'd left her alone for 5 fucking minutes. She showed up, entered the conversation, and within minutes they were talking about clothes. I walked away and neither noticed. When I meet a group of girls at the bar, getting one to peel away and go home with me is way difficult. Girls expect to go home with t…
/r/seduction29/08/10 05:21 PM
1

My usually tactic. Just another tick in the lose column. I'd like to salvage something.
/r/seduction29/08/10 05:03 PM
1

That's why I offered that it's only about 1 in 4. Touching, making passes, I do all that fine. The issue is the girl. For instance: One girl had just always taken things slowly. Sex was always after 8-9 dates. One girl had a religious background One girl didn't have much experience One had some sexual hang-ups. I've tried a few times: "It hurts my feelings that you don't want to be with me physically." Either the chick got angry or she brushed it off with, "I just taking things slowly." Maybe th…
/r/seduction29/08/10 05:01 PM
4

Have her act/be interested in you. A guy that has girls interested in him is a signal to other girls that he has something to offer. She should appear really interested in being your girlfriend. Let her scan the room for girls. When you scan the room for girls it looks obvious but when she does it it's no big deal. Don't let her cock-block you. When two guys go out and one meets a girl that's down to fuck, the other has no problem taking a cab alone. When it's two girls, the wing gets angry! A w…
/r/seduction29/08/10 04:57 PM
1

career comes before relationships I felt that way until I was around age 26. Now I'm 32, still single, and all my buds are married. Don't be like me. Strike a balance.
/r/seduction29/08/10 04:22 PM
1

Why dance clubs are awesome: Spend less money on drinks than in the bar because you're dancing You can dance instead of struggling to make conversation Seeing how she moves will tell you if she's good in bed Dancing is fun Easier to start physical contact You get to see her body better than if she were sitting Dancing is now another way to show yourself off
/r/seduction29/08/10 04:16 PM
0

"What's your name?" "How are you?" "Where are you from?" If she's interested then she'll cooperate. She wants you two to succeed. Something will work out. If you ask me, all the "tactics" like neg or whatever are for girls that require a little convincing.
/r/seduction29/08/10 01:28 PM
3

If you really like this girl then go for it. Ignore the "don't shit where you eat" advice. Finding love is more difficult than finding a job. If it's just a fling then always be honest. If you notice something going astray, like her getting too serious on you, make things clear ASAP. If you're not hurtful then things will stay cool around the office. (I just started fucking the new office secretary. I'm hoping that my advice is correct.)
/r/seduction19/08/10 07:59 AM
3

60-90 days? WTF...? I'm sealing deals in 1-2 weeks.
/r/seduction19/08/10 07:45 AM
7

You got the look, you have to move in within 3 seconds. This rule overrides all other rules.
/r/seduction19/08/10 07:43 AM
5

"I'll give you a lesson another time. Give me your number and I'll call you." Good that you didn't offer to unfurl the sail, don't be a push-over. I'm a kitesurfer and I have two questions for you: Do you think that this would work while rolling up a kite? What did your parents say when you came out to them? ;-)
/r/seduction18/08/10 07:19 PM
1

You did great. She might have been testing you a bit, to see if you're willing to rearrange your schedule to see her. You didn't appear overly willing and that's good.
/r/seduction18/08/10 04:46 PM
12

You've gotten eye contact too many times already. Move in. Giving a number is weaker than getting one. Ask for her number. Even better than asking is demanding it politely. "We've got to stop meeting like this. Give me your number and I'll call you."
/r/seduction18/08/10 04:27 PM
1

Weak sauce, I know. :( Picking up a girl while she's working is difficult because her time is limited and she's not in the mindset of "out to meet a guy". The joke was an attempt to get there. Not easy. In this situation either she's already into him or she isn't. If she is then almost anything will work. If she isn't, almost nothing will work. Can't hurt to try.
/r/seduction18/08/10 04:21 PM
0

After you buy your phone, ask her to call you so that you can test that it's working. Then when your new phone rings tell her, "Hold on a second, I've got a call. (pick up the phone and turn away) Hello? Who is this?" Then try to strike up conversation over the phone. "Hey, I'm glad you called." "So... what's up?" See if you can keep it up for a minute. Might make her laugh... or maybe she gets that routine 10 times a day. If she rolls with it then she might be into you. Now you have to judge if…
/r/seduction18/08/10 01:02 PM
10

Very good! I like that! Building on that... As I see it, I go up to her and ask her name just so I can say, "Nice to meet you, ___, can you watch my stuff while I swim? Great thanks bye." Minimum talking, just enough to get her thinking that I might be interested before I take off and show her that maybe she's wrong. Now she's wondering why I'm not hitting on her and instead in the water. No looking back at the shore. Maybe I do some laps for exercise. Might as well leave behind a prop along wit…
/r/seduction17/08/10 04:02 PM
7

Yeah? The beach isn't usually so crowded. Might come off creepy, me crowding her while there's plenty of beach to go around.
/r/seduction17/08/10 02:48 PM
1

Don't sing "ironically" like you're intentionally trying to be bad. Pick a song that's mostly rapping so that you don't have have perfect pitch and wow them with your really fast talking. Eminem?
/r/seduction17/08/10 02:32 PM
7

By the time you get really good at it, you won't want it anymore. Edit: by "it" I mean picking up girls.
/r/seduction17/08/10 02:27 PM
8

crossed arms is standoffish, on your hips gives you bad posture, pockets is awkward, too. Let 'em dangle at your sides. It feels most unnatural but looks most natural. Go figure. When sitting on a couch, spread 'em wide on the back of the sofa to take up space like you own the place.
/r/seduction17/08/10 02:14 PM
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