RE: Friendzone doesn't exist

ehbeeseedee · 2011-05-25T20:36:56+00:00

This whole conversation about friendzone is pointless. It's totally against the abundance ideology. People of abundance don't care about friendzone, why? because they go out and pick up fresh new chicks every time. If you talk about friendzone, it sounds like oneitis. The game is about PICK UP, meeting new chicks and closing.

It's very structured, the end result is f-close. If you aren't f-closing figure out why.. forget about this friendzone nonsense.

razqel · 2011-05-25T19:00:10+00:00

Agreed. Once you've been categorized as a friend, most-if not all-of your interactions will be filtered through the lens of "non-sexual, low quality" male. The same line, "I had a dog I really loved when I was young. I still miss him so much" would be interpreted differently depending on how she categorizes you.

A girl would interpret a high value male saying that as, "Wow, not only does he have the guts to say something like that, he's also caring and sensitive." OTOH, a low value male saying that would be interpreted as, "This guy is really needy and clingy. He's a little too sensitive." Same line, different interpretation.

It takes a lot of opposing evidence to change a someone's view. Dropping interactions helps reset initial perceptions, as changes in your personality or behavior would be more noticeable. However, you only exit the friend zone if you've made some real changes to become a high value individual. Otherwise, a girl will just confirm her initial beliefs.

DeterminedToOffend · 2011-05-25T18:55:21+00:00

I think the more appropriate way to communicate that statement is something more like:

"The friendzone only exists if you create it."

And it isn't always necessarily a bad thing. One of my best friends is a HB9 I met around the beginning of highschool, whom I initially had a crush on but due to lack of game never did anything about it. Now I've graduated college and she is still a VERY good friend of mine. When we go out together or see each other in public we are always very flirty and she will literally run to me and tackle me with a hug if she sees me somewhere. Great social value and drives other girls nuts when I'm with them because she is pretty close to model-material.

You also have great access to all her girl-friends if you are friendzoned, but keep in mind if she doesn't actually even LIKE you as a friend but is just a nice person (aka you creeped her out), then you have very little chance of hooking up with any of her friends. Remember: girls talk.

chumpta · 2011-05-25T23:07:20+00:00

you can always leave though.

you may not enter the sex zone, but you can walk out into the "stop hanging out entirely" zone. This can reset her perception sometimes.

rmbarnes · 2011-05-26T12:06:35+00:00

It does and doesn't exist, it depends how you define it. Seddit seems to define it as a girl either thinking of you as a friend or a lover, never both. This is not quite true.

Guys who just aren't generally attractive to women will always just be a friend to a girl because she made up her mind at some point soon after she first got to know you that she wasn't attracted to you. Once here you probably have a lot to do to change her mind.

Guys who are attractive to women can meet women and just be friends with them. Although relations with the girl stay purely friendly for a long while, because he's an attractive guy, if he one day makes a move he's got a good chance of getting a lay.

So it's all about how attractive you are to women, not if you've been slotted into some imaginary friendzone in her mind.

Fenor · 2011-05-26T13:23:39+00:00

This is why it's suggested to drop all interactions with an individual to exit the friendzone. <--- let's quantify stop interaction for how much time? 1 year? 2 months?

Title	RE: Friendzone doesn't exist
Author	ehbeeseedee
Upvotes	9
Comments	15
Date	May 25, 2011 6:33 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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