Is "Depression" Blue Pill Beta BS or Genuine Medical (Bio Chemical) Condition?

furcryingoutloud · 2018-09-13T05:56:08+00:00

Depression is a bitch. And personally, I don't think it has anything to do with any pill. The difference is when you are aware of it, how you move on. I think Red Pill is one way to help. MTGOW may just come naturally.

But I will tell you what's helped me. Curiosity. I am curious as to what is coming. This seriously makes me want to go on. I want to know what can happen. What can I change and make better? If you die, you lost. While you're alive, you can always look forward to something. Just my two cents man.

PM me if you want to talk.

morescoobysnacks · 2018-09-13T05:58:04+00:00

A friend killed himself over it (depression and bipolar). He was a jacked alpha mother fucker and he tried hard to beat it himself. We'd stay up nights just txting about it. He owned a successful web development company and owned his own gym where he taught classes. Beautiful wife. But it didn't matter. He wouldn't get help and in the end he lost.

So no it's not some bluepill shit. Any keyboard dork who wants to say they could overcome it doesn't know what "it" is. There's nothing wrong with getting help. And it could take you 50 different drugs to find the one that works--those drugs and our brains are complex as fuck.

Elaol · 2018-09-13T11:26:59+00:00

Psychologist here. Listen to other comments. Definitely seek help. Psychotherapy + meds is the best combo. Meds help with physical causes and therapy teaches you how to deal with it and fix the cause of depression.

You can also try some additional therapies, like meditation. It is really helpful. Acupuncture is also a great supplement to psychotherapy +meds.

Let go of the thought that this is Blue Pill weakness. You cannot beat depression by not talking to anyone about your feelings and going to the gym.

O--- · 2018-09-13T08:39:53+00:00

Depression is not weakness, but the present-day prevalence of depression is, I believe, certainly a consequence of present conditions. The widespread availability of easy dopamine, the decrease of social interaction in everyday life due to social media, the massive increase in information, they can all throw you into a pit of hell.

The fact that we no longer look after our primary needs (food and housing are all provided by our country) is a further factor, as it allows us to spend our time reflecting on secondary needs, like sex, fun, finding a 'meaning' of life, and of course, our emotions. How happy am I? How fulfilling is my life? Where are the imperfections? The answers are often disappointing because, well, that's life, but it is the present-day circumstances that allow us to even consider them in depth.

This is not backed up by anything. Just my two cents.

RedPilledRoaster · 2018-09-13T06:55:49+00:00

Once you set and accomplish goals any depression you had is gone.

Real depression is when you don’t even want to not be depressed anymore because you don’t care enough. I’ve been there and you need a kick in the ass to get out of that.

Metartist · 2018-09-13T07:42:59+00:00

I suffer from PTSD and depression. TRP and MGTOW have helped me gain a better understanding of myself, as well as others. Having these conditions has alienated me from most usual social interactions, and within these forums I have found a community. It all still comes down to me, but at least I know who to turn to give it to me straight. Every day is struggle, but I’m not giving up, even when its unbearable I will make it through the night.

Best_Chorizo · 2018-09-13T07:49:20+00:00

Did you try meditation ?

itoshirt · 2018-09-13T08:33:33+00:00

Depression is supposed to run through my family. Some of them believe that they struggle because they simply have depression. I'm beginning to realize that even if it were true, it's better to interpret depression as a natural state that you can rise above through positive acts.

Oceansdrive · 2018-09-13T08:41:38+00:00

No man, depression has nothing to do with blue pill weak.

When depressed your brain structure permanently changes. With the right help to fix it you can alter it back; meditation, medication, mindfullness, neurofeedback, fitness.

My best guess; research ketamine treatment for depression. Ive read that 50% of the 'no treatment works anymore' group could be cured after.

Take care man, there are a lot of groups you can reach out to. It sucks - but you can fight this. No alcohol or drugs. Run, HIIT or lift, and meditate 20 minutes per day, find a social group or reach out to them.

Je_suis_throwy · 2018-09-13T11:14:05+00:00

I think its a cause and effect thing of the two things you named in your headline.

"Beta" Behaviour can affect your hormonal system to react accordingly.

iskandph · 2018-09-13T13:10:00+00:00

Both

Aggressive_Beta · 2018-09-13T14:53:05+00:00

Genuine medical condition often caused by Seratonin imbalance. Have you ever heard of CTE? Sometimes your brain just doesn’t work right because there’s something physically wrong with it and nothing you change about your environment, lifestyle, or mental cognitive patterns will help enough.

oytrp · 2018-09-13T15:37:41+00:00

It can be both.

Some depression is legit, some is just self wallow and pity. If taking meds fixes the problem then it's clear the source is the former.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2018-09-14T00:39:06+00:00

Get a sleep study done. Get checked for a sleep disorder.

Get your hormone levels tested. Get a full blood panel done.

Note that low grade vitamin deficiencies such as D, folic acid, or B-12 can first manifest as chronic fatigue, depression, or anxiety.

W_O_M_B_A_T · 2018-09-14T01:28:43+00:00

Lost daughter to my depression plus ex wife and counselor alienation.

This's kind of a relevant fucking detail here.

What, you thought you'd just mention it offhand, then zoom past it like the space station?

What did the counselor actually say/claim? What did they accuse you of

Be more specific.

Otherwise one fears the details may paint you as being less of a victim than you want to be.

Third divorce final last week.

The common denominator is you.

Depression does not cause three failed marriages. (Unless you cried your way all the way to the altar.)

Actions do. Depression can be a factor in one's actions, but that alone is not an excuse for Take ownership of your choices instead of blaming them on circumstances beyond your control such as depression or your ex or her counselor.

logistics challenges at a global level that are extremely difficult to address.

Sounds like you're having trouble addressing a lot of things.

Is this depression just me being blue pill weak?

Bruchibre · 2018-09-13T08:40:10+00:00

Dude, depression is a medical condition that has been studied for decades and that comes with hormonal imbalance. So if you do actually have been diagnosed with depression, it's definitely not BP. What's BP is asking this kind of question...

We have rampant depression in the family: my grandmother was treated for it, my father is being treated for it, I have had episodes. I think the more you learn and understand its mechanism, the better you can deal with it. But don't try to talk about it with people who haven't been exposed even indirectly because too many of them think depression = sadness and will think it's all about cheering up.

zncmckskaowidixjsjai · 2018-09-13T08:30:09+00:00

Depression is not real.

Change your thoughts and life, if you are busy tou don’t have time to be ,,depressed”

Title	Is "Depression" Blue Pill Beta BS or Genuine Medical (Bio Chemical) Condition?
Author	Emwonk2
Upvotes	6
Comments	21
Date	September 13, 2018 5:46 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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