Seddit, something's gotta give (short guys help me out?)

pandalust · 2012-04-19T08:21:44+00:00

My cousin, being only one inch taller than you, gets laid every fucking time he goes out (a natural i suppose). Although women always list tall under their ideal man, its damn meaningless, who we are attracted to ends up being a lot more of a subconscious decision than a concious one. Which is really the whole point of Seduction imo, you make yourself appear attractive to her subconciously through a little kino/confidence/other seduction tip.

Height, 8-Packs, money, power, etc are all really meaningless.

Tl;dr YOU are the man, hit the gym, read more, keep trying. stop faking confidence and feel confident, good and happy about yourself.

djangelic · 2012-04-19T12:12:04+00:00

If you got limiting beliefs I feel bad for you son.

Society likes to spout bullshit about how "WELL, WOMEN FIND <x> AND <y> TRAITS ATTRACTIVE!" In reality, most people (guys and girls) don't really fucking know what they want. If a girl suddenly met her Prince Charming, but -GASP- he was 5'4", she's not going to say no.

Society likes to say, "YOU HAVE TO LOOK GOOD", or "YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 6'5.323" TO BE ATTRACTIVE". And then we rationalize such things saying, "beauty was good for survival! height was good for survival!" Well, height isn't intrinsically a good trait nor is it good for survival. I'd rather be short and be able to take shelter in the Gobi Desert or the Siberian Tundra. I assure you I'd be able to survive and procreate longer then the 7' tall guy who can't escape the elements.

Being tall is not intrinsically a good trait. It's just that many tall people get a lot of external validation, which makes them confident, which makes them attractive. But, like most people, they probably derive their self-esteem from external validation. The people with the strongest "spirit" (lack of a better word) derive their self-esteem from within. And a strong "spirit" is what creates attraction for most women.

Plus, there are a hundred of little things that your inexperienced POV may have missed. And girls flake all the time anyway. Even if you were a 7' tall Greek God, that still doesn't mean you will get every girl. That's like complaining to Kobe Bryant as to why he doesn't make every shot.

Everytime I see an AskReddit post where all these dudes complain about being a FA, or they're ugly, or they're short, well I almost pity them. It's like living under a veil. God damn, living with such staggering limiting beliefs is like living without freedom because of these nonsense fears.

I have a 6'5" friend who does modeling in NYC. My game is superior to him because he relies solely on his looks. Guess what? It wasn't Zac Efron who got the girls when we lived in trees for thousands of years. It was the guy who was willing to defend the tribe against tigers and bears.

Tylerkurden · 2012-04-19T10:50:44+00:00

You fall under the radar with that kind of height. The guy you watched might have been blown off for a ton of other reasons apart from his height. It could be anything from pecking to looking at her lips when she spoke to him. I think as long as your confident and humble you shouldn't have any problems. I'm 5'8 and I live in the uk where a lot of guys are over six foot. Hell most of my friends are six foot so you can imagine what it looks like when I go out with them. I personally like girls that are shorter than five foot. With your height, those kind of girls will feel comfortable and it might even make them feel nice because you can both be short together and not give a fuck about anyone. Thinking about it, if you approached a girl that's like four foot eight you could use your height as a really good opener. The bottom line is if you make fun of yourself and your imperfections no one can touch you and it portrays confidence as well. Think of b rabbits last battle in 8 mile for example.

StraightCougar · 2012-04-19T15:27:14+00:00

If she buys first round, he doesn't have to buy second round.... and even if he did, he wasn't trying to impress her by buying her drinks; at that point he was 'in' their group and the drinks locked him in.

This guy sounded pretty successful to me bro, I think you're seeing what you wanna see... take the advice from some of the other posters, it sounds like you are being very self-restrictive.

2012-04-19T22:16:34+00:00

Some people are going to tell you that height/looks/whatever doesn't matter at all, and those people are wrong.

Your mind is going to tell you that your height/looks/whatever is a disqualifier, and it's wrong too.

It matters a little, depending on the girl, the night, the venue, and the alignment of the stars and what the groundhog did this year, whateverthefuck.

I mean, I'm 5'10", not short really, but I still do a LOT better with 5'2" girls than I do with 5'11" girls. This has been observed over a HUGE data set, and I approach all of them about equally. I cannot with any shred of truth say then, that height doesn't matter at ALL. Still plenty of girls out there though.

Keep approaching everyone, just be cognizant of the fact that yeah, you'll probably have slightly better luck with 5'1" chicks than with six footers, but so what? Plenty of both out there for everyone, it's not going to inhibit your life in any way. Get out there and plow.

toobadicare · 2012-04-20T14:21:12+00:00

It's all about confidence and presence. With enough piratelike swagger you can take up just as much space as someone that is 6'4".

IAmTheOmNom · 2012-04-19T08:55:30+00:00

Then again I recently saw this midget having an incredibly hot girl on either side ....

breadrising · 2012-04-19T12:38:07+00:00

This situation is no exception to the basic rule Assume Attraction. Some chicks are going to blow off guys for no reason, some will blow off guys who are short, tall, slim, fit, chubby, balding, dirty, clean, whatever. Just like each guy has his particular tastes, women do as well.

And in the end, attraction runs deeper down than traits. I've hooked up with women I'd rarely find myself drawn to, yet the events of one night and the way they handled themselves was such a turn on to me that I made it happen. Become this person. Become the person that people are drawn to; a person that has no particular traits that can be pointed out. When people ask about you, you don't want the first thing they say to be "Yeah, he's that short guy, right?" You want them to be saying "Yeah that dude is fucking awesome! Seriously, this one night at the bar, it was so much fun when he _________."

Just as others have mentioned, I've seen guys of all types get girls easily; I've also seen good looking, tall, fit guys get rejected. In the end, if you aren't confident, are cheesey, or some tactless prick, you're going home alone...no matter how physically attractive you are.

Keep at it dude. Keep going out. Keep practicing; just talk to people. Become that guy that people are excited to see when they go out.

jk147 · 2012-04-19T14:03:51+00:00

Yes you were born with less than ideal height, something that you cannot change. Work harder at your game, your finances your body an be the baddest 5'4 you could ever be.

Or you could just complain why women like tall guys.

TofuTofu · 2012-04-20T01:58:50+00:00

Yes, you have it harder than taller guys. Boo-fucking-hoo. Own your life and just be that much more awesome than everyone else.

Even 6'4" Arian-race motherfuckers have insecurities. Use it as motivation to be awesome, not as an excuse for failure. When you do pull, you'll be that much more proud.

Title	Seddit, something's gotta give (short guys help me out?)
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Date	April 19, 2012 3:29 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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