Seduction thoughts 6 months in

cma6250 · 2012-10-14T03:38:35+00:00

Nice to know I'm on a similar level. I started learning about the community 4 or 5 years ago, but due to my mindset and the lack of social friend I surrounded myself with I didn't get too far into it. About 6 months ago I met a guy who has been approaching, learning, and dedicating his time to pick up for 7 years; he's been through the bullshit, shaved it down to what works and what's useless.

Something he's helped me realize about my interractions has been my level of energy. When I meet a girl and display a strong dominant energy, they're hooked; attraction just isn't a choice. When I meet up with the same girl in the future, it's up to me to maintain that level of energy and she'll continue enjoying my company.

As far as looks go, if you believe you're a good looking cat who's well groomed and enjoys being himself that's all that matters. A small portion of women are going to reject you because of your looks, either they're shallow and can't get past it, or they have a certain "type." Just say "next" and move on to the next fox.

I enjoy every second past that first 10 seconds, who cares if she's not interested, I AM THE PARTY. Whether I'm at the bar, hanging with friends, at my monotonous job, driving to a hot date, all of it doesn't matter, I'm the party and I own it.

Keep your state up, keep moving outside your comfort zone, and most important keep having fun.

jewfro667 · 2012-10-14T04:44:25+00:00

I've known about the whole seduction community for a few years now, I only recently (since I turned 21 in May) started to kinda try applying it. I learned that a bunch of this stuff is a bunch of theory and should not be taken seriously. It's really up to you to know what works and what doesn't. Sure, I neg and kino much more than I used to, and I flirt A LOT with everyone (even guy friends lol). Still, it all comes down to actually making moves and just grabbing yourself by the balls and approaching. The rest is just a bunch of theory that some guys thought about that helped them with women. Just because something helps Tyler, doesn't mean it will help you get laid. Even the great PUAs get rejected.

boston_nemmy · 2012-10-14T17:48:03+00:00

One thing you'll always see, if you watch in-field footage of PUAs on Youtube, is that their approach is strong. People develop first-impressions within seconds, so a strong, dominant, alpha approach is important. It's easier to go in strong and dial it down a notch, than to go in weak and try to ratchet it up.

There's an analogy from one of the RSD guys, that goes like this. You have to be the Kool Aid "Oh Yeah!" guy. Basically, say you approach two girls talking to each other at the bar. You don't exist to them until you approach, and when you do, you need to make yourself immediately relevant in their world. The kool aid guy immediately makes himself the focal point of attention. He brings value, starts giving out kool aid, and people want him to stay.

Check out this video, which I think really sums up the concept much better than I can: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk8jM9ur6cE&feature=plcp

BudapestPUA · 2012-10-14T12:05:48+00:00

You missed the point of this whole thing.

Seduction is about making yourself a better version of yourself. It is about working on your body, on your mind and on your soul.

You were thinking "kino" and "neg" are magic tricks. You say they are either interested or not, nothing to do with the knowledge we pass around here. Partly you are right. Because the shit we are talking here about is how to work YEARS on YOURSELF to became a guy in who girls are interested just by your appearance, lifestyle, aura and confidence you are projecting out.

DemLuckyCharms · 2012-10-14T04:15:17+00:00

People form first impressions of you within the first few seconds of the encounter. But who cares what they think? You feel better? That's awesome. You are more confident and enjoying life more? You're the man! Don't be dependent on the results or outcomes. Just enjoy yourself bro. It sounds like you have made great progress. Keep at it, keep doing what you do. The more confident you are in yourself and the more you "like" yourself, the more attractive you will appear to others.

Nabert · 2012-10-14T07:36:22+00:00

I don't agree with the 10 seconds you're suggesting at all. I've changed my mind about girls after 10 seconds of meeting them (whether it was I became interested or lost it) and women do the same thing. Looks are important for the first encounter, but after you're introduced, I firmly believe a killer personality can win you over anyone you desire.

squarehouse · 2012-10-14T15:37:26+00:00

Thanks for your post, and I'm glad to see some honesty. You're basically questioning the concept of game, which is good to criticize honestly. The idea that game can create attraction that doesn't exist...it's a staple of the PUA community, but I had an experience last night where it just felt more like a meat market.

Mark Manson has this concept where there are three kinds of women: Negative, women who would never have any interest in you; neutral, women who don't lean either way; and positive, women who are attracted/interested in you. You should go for the positive women, and only when there aren't any more positive women, you should try to work on the neutral women, but there's a good chance you won't have any success.

But does positive, neutral, and negative correspond with this sort attraction hierarchy (7's are neutral to other 7's, 9's are positive to 7's, etc)? This basically suggests that there are leages, and people should try to date within their league. I'm dubious.

But I like Mark Manson's idea better than the "assume attraction" stuff. If you have an intuitive sense about people, I think you can figure out, without too many false positives and false negatives, which women you're getting attraction from and which women you're not. If you're on the lower end of the attraction spectrum (I'm about a 6) you're not going to be dealing with cases where women are hiding their attraction from you. And some women are very visible in their repulsion toward me, not consciously, but their body language very strongly indicates this. In these cases to "assume attraction" just seems autistic.

Title	Seduction thoughts 6 months in
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Date	October 14, 2012 2:27 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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