Guy's goal in seduction is the F-close. What's a girl's goal?

Hoek · 2014-06-17T22:16:45+00:00

"it's obviously not the F-close for her"

You obviously just began your seduction journey. That's fine.

Progress form now on will be defined by how fast you realize that this is a limiting belief that is holding you back in your development ("girls don't want sex as bad as guys"), which will seriously hinder the ways you'll develop as a man.

Some women are socially conditioned to deny it (to avoid "slut shaming"), but after all, sex is part of the human condition, why would girls not want it?

victi_vicimus · 2014-06-17T18:47:30+00:00

The question is far more important than you might think. Most of "game", etc. is about giving value that your female companion wants.

So what do they want? For those actions/attributes that we believe are turn-offs what do these fail to deliver to your companion?

sedditforthewin · 2014-06-17T20:03:05+00:00

I could be wrong but:

Both guys and girls want validation derived from status.

Girls derive validation from getting high quality attention, so a high value guy giving her his attention while valuing her over other girls he could be with. A high status guy who will fuck her and leave is a liability, a high status guy who wants to stay because she's special is a great benefit.

Guys derive validation from intercourse, because it means the girl chose him above all other males. He gets to spread his seed.

For girls, it just so happens that sex is very pleasurable and intersects with what validated her if the guy chose her over other girls.

readonlyuser · 2014-06-18T17:07:34+00:00

Loaded question. Who's to say there's only one goal for every single guy? Same deal for women. Validation, connection, understanding, stability, masculine polarity, freedom, excitement, marriage, babies, sex slaves, sponsors, etc. The list goes on.

You have a few super super limiting beliefs here ('girls don't want sex', 'girls only want one thing', 'you are expected to want one thing', etc.). See if you can suspend your beliefs about others, and have them show/explain what they are looking for without judgement.

sedditor_ · 2014-06-18T05:51:20+00:00

Girls just wanna have fun

Seriously though, who doesn't? Also, saying that every guy only wants F-close is just plain wrong. Same thing for girls - you can't say what all of them are looking for, you need to find out.

readonlyuser · 2014-06-17T21:36:19+00:00

If a guys goal of seduction is the f close, then the guy has failed to truly learn.

2014-06-17T23:57:51+00:00

Woman typically have sex when they feel safe with the other person both physically and mentally, and perhaps existentially. So in a sense they look for a companion, and in some cases just straight sex/pleasure. Women are sex craving creatures as well.

Tombstone31 · 2014-06-17T18:26:06+00:00

Who cares?

That's both a question and an answer.

joshsway · 2014-06-17T18:48:07+00:00

Every girl is different, but most want a "relationship", even those that say they don't.

Title	Guy's goal in seduction is the F-close. What's a girl's goal?
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Date	June 17, 2014 5:54 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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