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[–]Osafune2 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you can handle it, escalate. It's tricky though, being the "other guy."
No girl who is satisfied will cheat, but a lot of the time you become enough of a distraction for them to still stay in their relationship without working to actually address the problems in it, so in one sense you're not letting them actualy grow as a person and do the right thing.
Also, they never leave their bf for you and even if they did the trust is gone. So don't you ever catch feelings for them unless you want a world of hurt. It can be frustrating, because you fucking KNOW she isn't happy, but for whatever reason they won't leave.
I was seeing a girl who lived with her bf of 10 years, she was bored as shit and resented the fact she had never been able to have the single life and sleep around she just started doing it with me. She was having her cake and eating it; the fun and excitement of me and the stability of a wealthy bf who worked away a lot.
I broke it off with her because she was a cool girl and I started to like her despite everything. I knew she wouldn't leave him and I told her that if she was going to stay with this guy then at least try and work on the relationship and learn some respect. She fucking cried over me calling it off, but she's still with this poor sap!
You will be amazed at how far girls with boyfriends will go. A lot of the time men will physically cheat, regret it and leave it at that. But women are the ones who go in for affairs and simultaneous emotional and physical cheating for long periods. Obviously some men do too, but it a seems more common for women.
[–]BasedWalden 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I can confirm. I am currently the "other guy" and it's alot harder than I previously anticipated. She's in a dead relationship but she's super into me. However she will not leave him for me for who knows why.
[–]Osafune2 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel you. If they've got a lot of investment with the bf (house, planned holidays, been together years) they feel obligated to stay
[–]DaygameCoach 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You are saying you don't wan't them to cheat on their men...so, what (and why) are you asking us? If you aren't going to mess with them...just don't escalate...just ignore the flirting.
[–]SexySmexxy -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
so, what (and why) are you asking us?
Dunno, I'm a take what I want kinda person I guess i just wanted someone to tell me no.
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn't want to use them to cheat on their boyfriends because that's a serious asshole move.... .....I'm a take what I want kinda person I guess i just wanted someone to tell me no.
I wouldn't want to use them to cheat on their boyfriends because that's a serious asshole move....
.....I'm a take what I want kinda person I guess i just wanted someone to tell me no.
So you don't want them to cheat on those guys with you, because you'll feel like an asshole, but you want to go there anyway.
I guess you're going to find out if your desire to not be an asshole is stronger than your desire to go there.
Though you ought to question the latter course of action because it sounds like you're having trouble staying true to your desire to not be an asshole, simply because they're attractive and giving you this attention.
[–]SexySmexxy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
thanks for the help
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
To be blunt, if I'm reading all of this right, it should be a bit alarming to you that you'd be ready to chuck your standards out the window just because they're validating you.
Please take care.....OP.
[–]SexySmexxy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha nah it's not like that, it's just like kinda...
When you hang around people and get to know them, when you connect with them more you tend to get attracted to them ( me anyways).
I doubt I'm going to do anything with them anyways because like I said, I'm trying to not be an asshole.
And they aren't "validating me", I dont wanna come across as some needy dude or anything, it's just casual flirting, I'm not dumb enough to get wound up over any 1 girl but I pretty much just came here for somebody to tell me no.
[–]SomethingRelevant93 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If they're willing to cheat with you then they will cheat with anyone else who strikes their fancy. If you wanna do it I say do it, can't feel too bad about it. The boyfriend obviously isn't providing something that you do.
[–]pizzapiemia 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
if a girl going to cheat, she is going to cheat regardless if it's you or not. I try not to condone rack jacking because there's plenty of fish in the sea, however i am guilty of doing it. Do what you want, that's what i would ahve done. ANd if you are nails enough go for a threesome with them two lol
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
.....they both have boyfriends...... I'm actually confused with what to do.
It's only as confusing as you choose to make it. What do you ultimately want out of your dating life? Something serious? Something casual?
I'm sort of a big asshole in the sense that I don't even make the effort to talk to girls that I don't even find attractive....
That doesn't make you an asshole.
So you can only see women as either girls you want to be involved with, or girls you don't want anything to do with? There's a rather broad range of experiences out there that you're forbidding yourself.
I can't really say exactly how happy these girls are with their boyfriends
Irrelevant. More relevant is what you want. Sort that out before you try to sort through anyone else's mess.
and I wouldn't want to use them to cheat on their boyfriends because that's a serious asshole move but I mean it's pretty clear that they're both into me, playful names, always messaging me on whatsapp etc, always looking at me in class blabla but I don't know what i should actually do.
You don't want them to cheat. So what's the confusion? You can't make them break up and you're pretty clear that you don't want to be instigating a situation where they cheat.
Sounds like the issue is that you like the attention they're giving you and want to figure out an angle to escalate here. There doesn't appear to be one unless one of them decide on her own, to break up and become single again.
[–]SexySmexxy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There doesn't appear to be one unless one of them decide on her own, to break up and become single again.
I guess I know this is pretty much my situation I was just hoping for someone else to give me a way out :p
Also
There's a rather broad range of experiences out there that you're forbidding yourself.
It's not because I'm like some super vain guy, its just that I find it hard to not get attracted to girls I spend time with and from past experience it just gets super messy...
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, there isn't one, really. Not for you, anyway. What you have are girls who are either going to try to cheat on their BFs, which you can participate in or not (at whatever cost that ends up being: it's often not just fun and games), or you have girls who are going to milk you for validation.
The only thing that changes this, is them and their decision to break up or stay together. And this isn't really your department.
If you really sort through what you really want from a girl in the context of dating, then spending with girls should not always lead to attraction. If you have standards, then by default, not every girl will meet them. If your standards are meaningful, then you shouldn't be attracted to every woman you spend time with.
If you have this problem with most girls, when realistically, you probably shouldn't be attracted to most women, then you should take an honest look at whether or not neediness isn't rearing its head here and shifting you towards emotional attachment with girls you a lot of spend time with.
[–]SexySmexxy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If your standards are meaningful, then you shouldn't be attracted to every woman you spend time with.
Which is exactly my problem because I don't even bother making the effort to be friends with girls I don't find attractive, I guess it's my inner asshole :(.
[–]Moderatorrecyclablebantha 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha nah it's not like that, it's just like kinda...When you hang around people and get to know them, when you connect with them more you tend to get attracted to them ( me anyways).
It's not an asshole thing. Not really. It's a natural progression.
It's fully possible to have attractive lady friends that you realize are attractive but who you aren't into..... though only if you're fully aware of their inner self and how well that actually lines up with you. I think if you actually got involved with all of these women, you'd discover quickly what doesn't line up and it would repel you.
Most of these women are probably not attractive to you beyond the physical and that doesn't truly go that far, at the end of the day.
You almost seem to be saying that you would go for it if they opened the door for you. It's that word, "doubt."
Look, you said that you don't bother to interact with girls unless you find them attractive. Flirting with people you find attractive, provides validation. It's a boost when someone attractive will engage in that kind of playfulness.
That doesn't mean you're needy or wound up. But it does mean that you could lose yourself here if you're not vigilant.
[–]jeanisss 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Physically escalate. If they share the physical escalation back, then ask em out. Just because she's in a relationship doesn't mean she's satisfied with it. If she is, she will let you know.
[–]TackleMeElmo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't condone cheating, but I don't have any problems trying to hook a number and maybe hang out with a girl in a relationship. If their relationship is healthily built on trust and they are true to it, hanging out with new people (opposite sex included) shouldn't be an issue.
I guess you're right but I find it hard to be just friends with a girl im attracted to, but its not like I wanna just never talk to them again...
[–]LaRochefoucauld 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
here's the thing, cheaters and lappers will cheat on you. and short term, more trouble than they are worth. you are one of two escape plans they have.
so date their friends.
[–]joshsway 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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