18 years old, nowhere to meet quality girls, don't know what to do

bicepsblastingstud · 2014-07-03T15:38:25+00:00

You're an 18 year old running "I'm 30 and want to find a young wife" game, which is always going to be a losing proposition for somebody your age. The girls your age who are looking for long-term commitment are, generally speaking, looking for it with an older, established male.

I recommend you either a. try to get with a 16 or 17 year old girl for an LTR or b. just play the field until you're a few years older.

That isn't to say you can't find an LTR at 18, but your best bet is going to be something like a friend or a friend of a friend, not a girl you meet at ballroom dancing class (because again, those types of girls are looking for older/higher-status dudes.)

You're correct, your intelligence doesn't matter to women. The things your intellegence can lead to -- i.e. money, status, and power -- matter very much to women... but again, you're only 18, and haven't had time to accumulate those things. More pressingly, your intelligence can (and does, and will) make it more difficult for you to relate to women. High-IQ people tend to be very logical and analytical, and that is the opposite of a woman, who is an illogical, emotional creature.

You can see this effect below:

My hobbies are lifting, a lot of reading, writing (I am finishing my first novel), various branches of physics, technology, astronomy, studying philosophy, politics and world issues, cooking, underground-ish music and movies, men's fashion, also one or two TV shows.

NONE OF THIS interests a woman, and you're committing a fatal error: expecting women to be like men.

I feel like things that are fun for me are boring to them. I don't have that problem with guys - my male friends don't share my interests nor morals but think that I have a lot to say...

When I was your age, my friend group (which included several girls) did this thing we called a "Fancy Ice Cream Party" where we would put on ties, eat ice cream, and sit in somebody's basement and debate stuff. The girls would come, occasionally, but they always ended up whining about being bored and/or texting in a corner the whole time... no matter how much they insisted that they liked to debate stuff too.

Again, women are social creatures. They care about social stuff, which is why they tend to spend so much time gossiping and watching vapid television shows.

The solution is this: Stop trying to have logical discussions / talk about science / ponder philosophy with women and start flirting with them.

Treat women like you would a younger female relative: Tease them. Make up silly stories about the people around you. Basically, be playful and funny, and save the deep discussions for your male friends.

Anon_Dutch · 2014-07-03T13:59:21+00:00

You're obviously intelligent and seem to have a basic grasp of TRP, but there are a few errors/falsehoods in your post worth addressing.

Firstly, your intelligence does have SMV but only indirectly through your earning potential and ability to master game. Merely being intelligent does not attract women, however earning good money, being successful in life, and being a good conversationalist are all functions of intelligence and do attract women.

Secondly, rejection is healthy, even in large doses. However, it depends upon how you interpret that rejection. You should realize that even a hypothetical "perfect" (highest conceivable SMV) man will be rejected a large percentage of the time. Knowing this, rejection should not depress you or make you doubt yourself, it's par for the course. Instead every rejection means you took a shot, which you should be proud of, you can't win if you don't play. Furthermore, every shot (whether resulting in success or failure) is training and will improve your chance of success in the future. You can't improve without training, so absolutely do not withdraw, keep shooting. One last note on this point, the end goal is as many scored shots as possible, not a high shooting percentage, so just keep shooting.

Thirdly, yes, putting on your game persona and maintaining that frame is tiring at first, but again practice makes perfect. Over time, it will no longer be a persona, it will become who you are and will no longer require significant effort. Maintain frame will always require some effort, but such is life, things take effort.

Fourthly, day game can be viewed as "creepy" in every country. Your goal while running day game is to make it not creepy. Be outgoing, be confident, just strike up a conversation. Whether it's creepy or not depends entirely on your approach.

Lastly, you are really too young and inexperienced to be thinking about kids and finding a life partner. You're a virgin, you've never had a LTR (at least not a serious one), you cannot possibly know what is important to you in a partner, you can only discover that through trial and error. Do not expect your first LTR to become your life partner, it makes you susceptible to oneitis, it puts far too much pressure on a relationship, and if you make the mistake of marrying your first love you will almost certainly end up divorced and financially raped. There are two reasons for this, aside from your inexperience preventing you from know what's important to you in a partner, you are still young and will change considerably over the next 10 years. Of course you feel like a fully developed adult, ever 18 year old does, I did too. However, as any psychology textbook will tell you, people don't change much during middle age (30-55) but they change a lot in childhood (1-12), adolescence (13-19), early adulthood (20-30), and old age (55+). Thus, if you find your "ideal" woman now, there's a good chance she will no longer be in 10 years, either because she changed or your concept of ideal changed. Analogously, you may be her ideal man now, but no longer in 10 years, which would be equally detrimental to your long term viability and happiness as a couple. So, forget about finding a life partner for now. If you don't want ONS or FWB, fine, focus on LTRs (just be careful about oneitis and beta behaviors), but you will have multiple LTRs in your life, don't think of the first as the only.

I hope this helps you a bit. Let me know if you have any questions or if you need more convincing about any of my points.

rangamatchstick · 2014-07-03T13:30:24+00:00

People are going to give me shit for even mentioning this as trp seems to hate this subbreddit for some reason, yet doenst provide an alternate solution. Go to "seddit", its a sub reddit dedicated to teaching seduction as it is a skill you can learn, and 6 months ago I went on there when I was in a very long dry spill after a girlfriend and its been the best 6 months of my life! The techniques on there dont just have to be used for what alot of guys use it for, which is to just have sex, but can be used to filter through many girls to find one you really like to have a relationship, just depends on the user.

GunsGermsAndSteel · 2014-07-03T13:58:23+00:00

If I were your age and attending a good school and looking to find a well-rounded woman to date, I might join the school's debate club. Or I might seek a part-time job at the library.

I also want to remind you that having not yet had any experience with women, you might not know how to interpret their signals. If you really are in good shape and a decent looking guy, it's nearly impossible that women have completely overlooked you. The real problem is that you don't yet speak Womanese. Once you learn to interpret their body language and certain key phrases that indicate their interest in you, you'll be doing good with the ladies.

Have fun in college.

steveob42 · 2014-07-03T14:16:19+00:00

Look, you are a smart kid. Think about it this way, all encounters start with attraction, all ltr's start with being with someone. If you think that you will find your one true love on the first try, well the odds are quite against you. You are putting too many expectations on yourself and on an initial encounter (i.e. naming the kids on the first date), and not gaining any experience points. The moral perspective you have isn't terribly rational, and you aren't a mind reader, nor terribly adept socially it seems to be able to judge a good partner.

Treat it like a science, what makes a woman tick (what makes you tick) what works, what doesn't, on every level. Make it your new hobby, so you can keep it in perspective, behind self improvement.

[deleted] · 2014-07-03T18:38:28+00:00

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kanaduhisfruityeh · 2014-07-03T17:10:18+00:00

It is very hard for an 18 year old virgin guy to find a woman for an LTR. Women usually like older guys (at least slightly older), and they usually like guys who are experienced, not virgins. I would suggest that you practice sexually on women you're not interested in LTR's with.

asktrp_throwaway · 2014-07-03T18:52:04+00:00

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aguy01 · 2014-07-04T07:29:11+00:00

Fuck anyone, get a girlfriend even if you don't really like her, and use her for sexual experience. Even if she's a slut, date her for a few months and practice as much as you can. Don't be a faggot and wait for a unicorn. Be a man and get your dick wet.

asktrp_throwaway · 2014-07-03T19:27:37+00:00

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[deleted] · 2014-07-03T21:06:26+00:00

You sound boring as hell, since your online so much anyway just switch from TRP to gonewild and spank that little noodle cause that's the only play your gonna get.

[deleted] · 2014-07-03T13:15:37+00:00

Idea of me having ONS or FWB disgusts me though. I am not asexual nor Christian, I just take my moral code seriously.

Fuck that shit. Your morals obviously haven't adapted to TRP yet. I used to think the same way, but it's all a load of bs. There is nothing more fun than coming from a date with one girl, having sex with another one an hour later and knowing that you'll bang a different chick the same night. Gives you an enormous feeling of power to have bitches swarming over you like that. On top of that, it's not just gonna be girls, but guys too. You'll be the leader of the fucking pack. You're telling me you don't want that?

But it looks like the card is worthless on the sexual market.

It is. Status, money, self-confidence and looks are everything you need. If you have these 4, women would still have sex with you even if you had an iq below 50.

The thing is you have your "stages" in life all wrong. Why would you go looking for a serious relationship right now? Your smv sucks anyway, so why bother? You can't even imagine the kind of chicks you'll be pulling in 10+ years. Get experience. Work on getting some nice degree that will pay for everything, lift as if your life depended on it and smash as much sloot pussy as you can find.

I feel like most girls my age only talk about sex or drinking, they have no real interests, opinions, passions, goals.

Spot on, they're not worth shit, but who cares? It's not your problem really, is it? Just bang them and in 15 years you'll find a proper 20year old cutie to have children with. It's that easy. You just have to get rid of those bullshit morals in your head.

Title	18 years old, nowhere to meet quality girls, don't know what to do
Author	asktrp_throwaway
Upvotes	16
Comments	41
Date	July 3, 2014 12:35 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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