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[–]Taken250 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm in the same boat my friend. It's hurt me to my inner core
[–]tooeasilybored 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Have you tried another approach? I'm not sure how to phrase this but don't chase "wanting a GF" but instead just enjoy life. Don't go out because you want to approach, go out because it's friday and you feel like a drink or something.
I'm 28 and have only been single for about 2 years since I was 19. I have never taken a girl on a real date...you know where you dress up and are supposed to pick them up or meet them somewhere....never done that. I just live my life, and if they want I invite them for a ride. I think a lot of people on this sub focus on getting numbers, getting dates when you all should be chasing some sort of connection with your potential partner. That connection is what keeps them coming back to you and not someone else.
People just want excitement and fun and being the nice guy is really not that exciting unless you look like ryan reynolds. Focus on having fun with those around you when you go out.
[–]sleazyhose 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm feeling this but a bit older. Was dating and getting a lot of hookups around 5 years ago but have been sexually inactive since and haven't been able to get dating.
I'm taking it more seriously this year though, a lot more opens and working daily on my self-esteem.
It's all about momentum, if you can start with opens and that leads to dates and then that leads to sex it is easier to keep it rolling even if things don't work out with that girl. I went wrong by "taking a break" from sex and dating and it has lead me to be seen by women as undesirable.
Start at opens. When girls understand you're "on the market", you should be seen as desirable more easily.
[–]Maluc0 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Hate to tell you bro but you are BORING to girls. Most likely from being overly nice. This is very easy to not see in yourself. If you chat up girls all the time and dont get a reaction, then you need to change up your approach. You need to incite feelings of excitement and desire. Make her want to talk to you. Want to know more.
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[–]Maluc0 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because if you weren't then THEY would want to talk to YOU. Nothing to get defensive about. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with you. Just trying to help. Very well may be an easy fix. Sounds like you really want to do better. I would suggest doing some more research on opening and building the conversation. Do you qualify them? High energy questions? Any negs? Escalation will not work if you havent set it up with conversation.
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[–]Maluc0 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Should start from the initial interaction. There are 7.5 billion people in the world, why should she talk to you? It's up to you to present that reason. They are not going to seek it out.
[–]Max-20 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Why do you think you are attractive when you get no dates?
[–]Max-20 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Most people just try to be polite.. No dates at all are a much stronger evidence than some half assed comments of random people
[–]Max-20 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok show me pics then
[–]ripgd 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“They say I’m a great guy”
Knowing noting about you but based on this statement and your facts, I think your most likely cause is being too much of a “nice guy”. By that I mean you’re building no sexual tension, not showing any real intent (or by the time you are it’s too late), or just being overall too “considerate” and or “safe”.
This is where this reddit and its posts are gold, some subtle behavioural changes could make a world of difference.
[–]geeered 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Were the dating coaches of the 'pickup' variety or a more 'fem-centered' style?
I'm not amazing at any of these (in fact I mostly suck), but I've always had a decent idea of the reasons why - well, I don't do the approach and laughing bits you do. But when I am talking, I don't build attraction.
You could try seeing if the book "No More Mr Nice Guy" applies to you.
" Counselors, dating coaches, friends and family have been unable to point out anything that I'm doing wrong. They say I'm a great guy. " seems like just the sort of thing that would be told to a nice guy by people that don't really understand reality.
Models by Mark Manson discusses some of these areas, but it does seem to come to the point of view from someone that was good at pickup before he wrote the book - which I think gave him some easier routes that the rest of us may struggle with a bit more.
(For instance being more selective - that requires me to have women to deselect :) ).
[–]geeered 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So, for more 'classic' PUA techniques - are you demonstrating you're attracted to her?
(Something I'm improving on myself very slowly.)
Are you 'building attraction'?
Kino, eye contact, flirting, qualifying, disqualifying, the dreaded 'negs' as needed?
This post looks like a good check list to see if your 'tick off' all the points there, as a starter for 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/abbqyj/the_basics_of_game_and_flirting/
[–]Renegader933 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Escalation brother, escalation.
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[–]Aghayden 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How exactly do you try to escalate?
Also, how often would you estimate you approach a girl and attempt to take the interaction in a sexual direction?
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[–]Renegader933 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you ever try to kiss them? If you do and she pulls away act like it never happened. It’s sexy to her that you don’t care she rejected it so it’s a win-win either way. If she rejects the kiss you can go back to what you were doing and slowly try to escalate. Other than that, I can’t see what you’re doing wrong. Are you confident? Do you make really good and strong eye contact?
[–]Bruce_wayne89 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sexualize the conversation from the start and escalate if you don't want to be friend zoned.
If it's not working, Sexualize some more.
[–]HunkSeven 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same here...it hurts so bad and my sexual desire is altering my Game.
[–]anabolic92 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Attractive people has no problem getting dates (hint: you are not attractive)
[–]anabolic92 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How am I trolling? Looks like my comment just hurts your feelings, I can try to be more precise.
Attractive people attract people. Attracted people usually want to bond with the attractive person, men usually with friendship or women by intimacy.
You could be attractive and not go so often, even if so you’d still get some hints of attraction during your daily activities such as work, commutes...
But even you mentioned you are socially active and use dating apps.
If you want to tell us that you are doing everything OK as you seem to pretend on your post, then it’s ok buddy.
Keep trying and be yourself, eventually you’ll find your half orange (:.
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