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[–]sink_flower432 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It means you've gone out with shitty or boring women. No not all women are like that. If you're bitter take responsibility, be mad at yourself for letting yourself attract boring women. Screen harder in future, look for places where awesome interesting attractive women will be. If you're not getting what you want it's because of something you did or did not do.
[–]mza4u 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I found a comment in another post that perfectly described how i feel:
"We are told all our lives that women are these complex fragile beautiful creatures and when we start to unravel the truth, it can be hard to be interested or even have respect. To hell with pick up, go out and do something that dsnt feel like work"
[–]Buullred2 points 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Personality? Most women just dont develop their personalities like men do.
You'd be pleasantly surprised how fun women can be if you get them to open up. It's true that it's often up to you but it's not any different from guys. If you want to become friends with the boys at your school chances are that you have to make the first move as well. Men are not better then women at socializing (worse if you ask me) it's just you who want different things from them.
Short answer to your question; yes, yes I think you're being unreasonable.
[–]TempSeduction 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women can certainly be beautiful 'creatures', but absolutely nothing magical about it.
If you aren't enjoying seduction then you are doing something wrong; simple as that. Take a break from it, have fun with your friends, seduction is no cultish life.
However, to still go into your post: You are describing one specific type of women, one of the hundreds. Know that there are many different kinds of women, but seduction is also about finding these types and defining the types you like. Different types are in different environments, so maybe try to meet women in a different way. I can assure you there are beautiful women that do want to put the effort in you once you have shown you are worth it. But do not assume you are worth their time if you have not anything to offer. Most naturally for me is offer them abundance, a free state of mind and simply sharing the fun.
Try define what you DO or would like of women and fine-tune the definitions everytime you meet women. They are human and you will notice they share the same insecurities as any of us do.
Remember to take a break and focus on having fun. Good luck.
[–]geeered 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To me, the answer to your issues seems to be "more seduction", not less.
That way you can attract higher quality women that have the aspects the ones you currently date are lacking.
[–]mseand -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
To be honest, it sounds like you're blame-shifting.
This is what registered in my mind while reading the post: "I'm bitter towards pickup that's why I'm going to discourage other people from doing it so we all won't get results"
It's really how you look at it and if all you're going to do is cry about not getting good at game because you see the problem in everything else, then I suggest you don't post at all.
The thing is, sometimes you think everything else that revolves around you is the problem. No bro, you're the one with the problems that need to be fixed. You're just too afraid to accept it
Bottom line: it's not the women, the reason why you aren't good at game is because of your defeatist mentality
[–]DerpyMCDee 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100%
[–]Serpent73 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Game only works on a very narrow group of women, and even then only under a very specific set of circumstances. This is why you are pulling women that put in low-effort, but expect you to do all the heavy lifting.
For me, Seduction was all about ... communicating better, having fun, being more relaxed, and just more genuine. I developed my internal world and found ways to be more satisfied with myself. Women responded to that as a secondary result, but pulling was not my goal. With no expectations, I was never frustrated.
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