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There are two ways that you can go about talking to women.

The first is what most guys do: They need the result RIGHT NOW. They are in deep pain, deeply unsatisfied with their current life situation.

They donโ€™t care about improving, or gaining skills.

Theyโ€™ll do whatever it takes in order to get a girl to like them.

They donโ€™t actually care about becoming a better person, or becoming more charismatic or magnetic for themselves. They donโ€™t have aspirations or traits that they want to accomplish.

No.

Instead, there is just a goal. They NEED that goal. Theyโ€™ll do whatever it takes to get the goal. Gimmicks, routines, micromanaging body language, you name it.

And if it doesnโ€™t get them laid, they get frustrated: ๐˜ฝ๐™š๐™˜๐™–๐™ช๐™จ๐™š ๐™š๐™ซ๐™š๐™ง๐™ฎ ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ข๐™š ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š๐™ฎ ๐™ฉ๐™–๐™ ๐™š ๐™–๐™˜๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ, ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š๐™ฎ ๐™จ๐™š๐™ฉ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š๐™ข๐™จ๐™š๐™ก๐™ซ๐™š๐™จ ๐™ช๐™ฅ ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™ก๐™ค๐™จ๐™š.

They set themselves up to judge whether what theyโ€™re doing was progress or not based on the results and outcomes.

The girls responses dictates their self worth.

๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ป๐—ผ ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜€, ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ฎ๐—น ๐—ด๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป, ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฎ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ป. ๐—ง๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ ๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—น๐˜† โ€œ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐—œ ๐—ด๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜€ ๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ฟ๐—น๐˜€ ๐—ป๐˜‚๐—บ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ / ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐˜, ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜. ๐——๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐˜€๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ธ๐—ฒ ๐—บ๐—ฒ, ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜.โ€

This is reactionary based. Every single action taken is a chore.

There is no fulfillment in growing, because there is no aspiration to be anything. Instead, there is just a deep need of an outcome.

The outcome of getting laid, the outcome of getting a girl to like them.

And every single time that expectation isnโ€™t fulfilled, the work and energy they put in is otherwise worthless, because there is nothing gained from each action taken. The power of gratification is given to the girl.

๐“๐ก๐ž ๐ ๐ข๐ซ๐ฅ ๐ก๐š๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ ๐จ๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž๐ฆ; if the girl decides to give them the outcome they desire, then they are happy. If not, they get deeply upset.

This mode of progression is toxic. Even though it does work, it is incredibly mentally draining, and results in a lack of consistency and immense frustration.

แด›สœแด‡ ๊œฑแด‡แด„แดษดแด… แดกแด€ส ษช๊œฑ แด›สœแด‡ สœแด‡แด€สŸแด›สœส, แดส€ษขแด€ษดษชแด„ แดกแด€ส แด›แด ษขแด แด€ส™แดแดœแด› แด›แด€สŸแด‹ษชษดษข แด›แด ษขษชส€สŸ๊œฑ.

When I go out, ๐™„ ๐™จ๐™š๐™š ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™›๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™ค๐™ฅ๐™ฅ๐™ค๐™ง๐™ฉ๐™ช๐™ฃ๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™š๐™จ. Every moment of hesitation, every instance of anxiety is an opportunity to progress. Every person around me is an opportunity to express myself, and discover a world that is beyond my own.

I have no clue what adventures await, but Iโ€™m eager to find out.

Every girl I talk to makes me closer to my ideal self. I can work on whatever aspect of my personality I want to improve on with every conversation. If I feel my storytelling is lacking, then I can try to be passionate and descriptive about something that just happened to me. ๐€๐ง๐ ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ง ๐ข๐Ÿ ๐ˆ ๐๐จ ๐ข๐ง๐œ๐ซ๐ž๐๐ข๐›๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐จ๐จ๐ซ๐ฅ๐ฒ, ๐ˆ๐“๐’ ๐’๐“๐ˆ๐‹๐‹ ๐€ ๐๐‹๐”๐’.

Why?

Because Iโ€™m honing my skill. Iโ€™m honoring and gratifying myself. Iโ€™m doing something good for myself.

Iโ€™m inching myself to the ideal type of person I want to become.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was the same way. He said:

โ€œPeople always came up to me: โ€˜Why are you smiling? You working out 5 hours a day, you doing the same as the other guys but the other guys have a sour face.โ€™ They pissed off to have to do another rep or another set I look forward to, I look forward to another dozen of reps, I look forward to another 500 of leg raise or squat, I look forward to another curl until my arms fall off. Why? ๐—•๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ฒ ๐—œ ๐—ธ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—œ ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฒ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜† ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—œ ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฑ ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ต๐˜ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐—œ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ณ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ, ๐—œ ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฝ ๐—ฐ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜๐˜†. ๐—ฆ๐—ผ ๐—œ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฑ ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ฏ๐˜† ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜, ๐—œ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜€ ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฑ, ๐—œ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ๐—ปโ€™๐˜ ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐˜ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ด๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ด๐˜†๐—บ.โ€

This is a winners mentality. This is the mentality of how to run a marathon.

Even though Arnold won five Mr. Universe titles, his sense accomplishment came from the daily grind.

This is the same way you need to go about talking to girls.

Instead of trying to win Mr. Olympia with every girl you talk to, and being frustrated and resentful when you donโ€™t win, focus on gaining skills and becoming the ideal version of who you want to be. Hone your conversational and flirtatious muscles. Focus on building them: the championship will come naturally as a byproduct.

Game is just a platform to achieve the character traits you want. Those character traits are what will get you the girl.

When you talk to chicks with the sole purpose of results (and see the whole process as a chore) there is no winning.

Let go of the outcome, stop trying to control your interactions, and just work on your conversation skills. Work on being more masculine. Read books you like, talk about them. When you feel that you want to get sexual with a girl, go for it. Work on growing your courage. Every time you feel hesitation, แด›สœแด€แด›โ€™๊œฑ แด€ แดกแดษดแด…แด‡ส€๊œฐแดœสŸ แดแด˜แด˜แดส€แด›แดœษดษชแด›ส. Thats amazing. Because you can become someone greater within 2 seconds, if you choose the action to.

All of a sudden, you become a video game character. And instead of being upset that you arenโ€™t the max level, youโ€™ll start to enjoy the process of getting there. Increasing each skill up. Getting from level 4 to level 5.

The key to all this is being okay with your current situation. As long as you resent your current situation, it will be very hard to let go of the outcome.

Love you guys, wishing you the best during quarantine.

-Sean