I think I’ve probably discovered how to hold and conversation and make it interesting. Here’s the framework (yes, it’s based on Keith johnstone’s improv work, which is obvious because it makes people engaged and holds their attention). The escalation technique is based on mystery method (thank fuck for Erik Von Markovik). Basically, Set tone by saying something positive, “Nice.” “I’m glad to hear that.” “Amazing!” Then do a status change to hold their attention. (There’s specifics, playing high status makes them feel attracted to you, but it also makes them less interested, so you balance it with low status actions to make them feel good). I’ve used this and I can confidently escalate with any lady, even lesbians, but they’re hard as fuck to close, so not past hand holding with them🤷‍♂️. I’m planning on incorporating hypnosis next. Wish me luck cousins! It’s also a fairly simple framework and you can even practice conversationally with ChatGPT by giving it certain rules and “playing” conversation, which is good to do for a few hours as it builds those brain pathways into habit, especially if you’re awkward talking with women. I can give you specific ChatGPT rules so you can use its voice feature and “chat.” It’ll say when you fucked up in convo and tell you how to fix it.