Up to 90% of Women in Lesbian Relationships Experience Domestic Abuse from their Female Partners

Aronacus · 2024-12-10T12:57:51+00:00

Look, all you need to know is this

Hetero marriages have a 50% chance of divorce

Gay marriages [man with a man] 25% chance of divorce

Lesbian marriages have a 75% chance of divorce.

Take from this what you will

Azukus · 2024-12-11T22:13:56+00:00

another factor we're glancing over here is that women are the types to actually talk about this stuff. i cant say women are more abusive, but theyll talk if they are. in a hetero relationship, men wont report getting abused. same goes for gay guys. it's not as common. but a lesbian relationship, either side or both can report it. drastically altered stats just because of how men and women are raised

Jeathro77 · 2024-12-10T14:15:22+00:00

90%? So, they are abusing each other?

OCE_Mythical · 2024-12-12T02:05:26+00:00

Well when two victims date each other they can't both be the victim.

ShitLordOfTheRings · 2024-12-10T12:35:04+00:00

I really don't like this conflation of domestic violence and "psychological abuse". Violence is actual violence, and when there is 50% sexual abuse that's bad enough. Inflating that number with stuff which nobody can quite classify and which is based on very few studies, only distracts from the problem.

TrichoSearch · 2024-12-10T13:51:14+00:00

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Res_Novae17 · 2024-12-14T19:02:18+00:00

Where is the 90% coming from? That would imply that most lesbian relationships consist of both parties abusing each other. You can't get past 50% without some number of relationships having two abusers.

SIRPORKSALOT · 2024-12-10T11:41:58+00:00

Not pussy pass denied. Wrong sub, pal!

NPC1938356-C137 · 2024-12-11T02:53:53+00:00

If 10% of them is sucesssful lesbian relationship then there is nothing to worry about.

UbbeL7 · 2025-01-10T10:03:10+00:00

Every lesbian couple I’ve been subjected to be around were abusive. Even in fucking public

MortimerWaffles · 2024-12-10T13:41:53+00:00

I'm playing devils advocate here. I feel the inclusion criteria for domestic violence that includes disrupting sleep, or eating habits is not really violence unless it was repeated and perpetual. By that logic, when I worked overnights, and my wife would wake me up during the day, not out of malice, but either out of genuine need or accidentally, then I would be a victim of domestic violence. Just like the false rape, statistics included women that had sex with their partners when they weren't in the mood were considered "rape" when in reality it just might have been someone who is tired, but didn't mind doing it anyway, but would've preferred to go to bed. I feel studies set up like this are designed to inflate the numbers to make the problem look worse than it is. Imagine a study in which they asked women if they have ever had a domestic violence act done on them ever in their life. It included everything from having a male partner, be angry all the way to being stabbed and raped. Because it's anytime in their life, it could be anyone of the 10 to 15 relationships they might've had. It all could've occurred one time and not affected them psychologically in anyway. Now to be clear, I'm not advocating that domestic violence should be disregarded. It's just that we need to clearly define what is domestic violence.

2024-12-24T20:59:51+00:00

And 100 procent of gay men experrience bullying from lesbian women. Girls will be girls, I guess...

TopCryptographer9379 · 2024-12-11T17:23:22+00:00

They should have chosen the bear lmao !

wild_flower_blossom · 2024-12-14T04:47:42+00:00

Yo G, can I ask why all the sources are pre-2000? Should we not update this with newer statistics?

Errant_Gunner · 2024-12-11T18:25:37+00:00

25 year old studies and rates with an accuracy window of 28% (17-45%)?

This is some absolutely shit methodology. Downvote.

catievirtuesimp · 2025-11-12T10:20:48+00:00

If I had a dollar for every time I encounter this bit of misinformation... People like to say lesbians have the highest dv rates bases on the cdc study but there's a lot of info thats missing. Bisexual women actually reported experiencing the most DV first of all, and second the study isn't about which relationshpi types have the most DV it's about which sexualities experience the most. Here's the stats breakdown: (Please excuse me if I edit this poorly and any part sounds really aggressive or rude. I have this saved on my clipboard so I can quickly counter homophobic idiots whenever I see them. Also sorry for the incoming text wall but consider the claim that lesbians are more violent officially debunked) They are higher but not from lesbian on lesbian domestic violence. The majority of the perpetrators are male. I found the exact study that is referenced for these stats I'll break it down for you right now. Firstly, bisexual women experience the most dv with 61% reporting it. 89.5% reported only male perpetrators. This means in the case of bisexual women they experienced more dv from men. First we'll establish that 44% of lesbians reported having experienced domestic violence in their life which is higher than heterosexual women reported. Just so you can see I am not editing anything here is the DIRECT quote for sexual violence. During their lifetimes, nearly three quarters of lesbian victims of CSV reported having only male perpetrators (72.9% or 912,000), while 1 in 5 had both male and female perpetrators (20.9% or 262,000). 72% of the had only male perpetrators for the sexual violence. In their lifetimes, most lesbian rape victims reported having only male perpetrators (89.7% or 531,000). Nearly 90% of lesbians reported having only male perpetrators. One in two lesbian stalking victims (51.6% or 377,000) reported having only male perpetrators, while 1 in 4 had only female perpetrators (27.6% or 202,000). So there you go. And here's your study link. https://www.cdc.gov/nisvs/documentation/nisvsReportonSexualIdentity.pdf So while we cannot conclude from this that lesbians commit more dv we can see that they experience more and the vast majority of perpetrators are men. Which checks out as its the same for bisexual women who date both. To clarify, this 44% you'll often see thrown around is made up of lesbians who reported experiencing at least one out of four categories including rape, contact sexual violence, IPV and stalking. In ALL areas of this survey where sex of perpetrator is revealed, we see that it is consistently males committing these acts against lesbians. This means the 44% is disingenuous to actual rates of DV within lesbian relationships and is much lower if all lesbians with male perpetrators are removed.

Turbulent_Set8884 · 2024-12-10T15:13:47+00:00

It's also telling that gay ships when it comes to western fanfom are based on abuse

Sea_Mongoose_9201 · 2024-12-11T17:07:37+00:00

It's because homosexuality is bred out of trauma in early childhood. This means people who have difficulty with emotional regulation, especially when it comes to interpersonal relationships. Women also feel like they have a license to hit as they rarely face any consequences as they rarely do significant damage to men. Put two of these people together and you get the results in the OP.

hapl_o · 2024-12-10T17:09:04+00:00

Are we talking lesbians lesbians? Or ex heteros pretending to be a lesbians now since real man won’t deal with all that baggage.

TrichoSearch · 2024-12-11T12:14:10+00:00

More recent research on Intimate Partner Violence within Lesbian relationships, circa 2018.

Life-time prevalence of IPV in LGB couples appeared to be similar to or higher than in heterosexual ones:

61.1% of bisexual women, 43.8% of lesbian women, 37.3% of bisexual men, and 26.0% of homosexual men experienced IPV during their life, while 5.0% of heterosexual women and 29.0% of heterosexual men experienced IPV.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6113571/

J1mj0hns0n · 2024-12-10T13:23:18+00:00

I'm seeing a lot of conjecture and no real evidence. Sourcing women are violent too isn't exactly what you'd call impartial. I'm not denying your claim, I'm asking for statistics and research that has lead you to this opinion.

Bag_Holding_Infidel · 2024-12-10T12:46:58+00:00

Up to 90%

0% is up to 90%.

Is the answer 0%?

sinixis · 2024-12-10T21:02:36+00:00

Toxic masculinity

kyzeboy · 2024-12-10T17:41:36+00:00

Violence again has a new definition again

Stfu with social sciences these days, they are far from scientific.

OmegaGoober · 2024-12-10T14:18:11+00:00

If I’m reading this right, the takeaway is a group that is oppressed and objectified for their gender and sexual orientation may be slightly more violent than heterosexual men.

My suspicion is those numbers would even out if LGBTQ+ relationships were normalized.

Up to 90% of Women in Lesbian Relationships Experience Domestic Abuse from their Female Partners

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More recent research on Intimate Partner Violence within Lesbian relationships, circa 2018.

Title	Up to 90% of Women in Lesbian Relationships Experience Domestic Abuse from their Female Partners
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