Do women often not realize that _other women_ are their biggest problem, not him?

4TBhdd · 2015-09-19T13:06:19+00:00

Women complain that men treat them like objects, and yet we merely respond to women acting like objects.

An object is something that is acted upon. For good or bad, whatever happens is out of the object's control.

A subject is something that acts. For good or bad, whatever happens is under his control and he is considered responsible.

Every time women blame men and insist that the problem is with men they are making objects of themselves. They objectify themselves.

When a woman goes to a bar dressed her sexiest and positions herself to encounter men she is making herself into a sexual object and waiting for men to act upon her. Whatever their actions, for good or bad, they must be accountable and responsible. She's is just an object and nothing she does is considered to affect the outcome.

Even those women who complain about men "objectifying women" are themselves objectifying women by denying and minimizing the control and influence women have in the world. If man acts towards a woman he has treated her as an object.

But the problem with all this is that you can't be treated like an object if you act like a subject. If you admit that you have control and agency and will then you are not an object but a subject.

But women like being objects. They like not being accountable for their condition and they like that men act upon them. In fact, hypergamy rewards the man who acts up on women with sex, adoration, and "love". The man who does not act gets nothing for women do not act upon men who are objects.

NightwingTRP · 2015-09-19T11:25:26+00:00

Entitlement and victim complex 101. I deserve him... but I'm not getting him... I'm the victim, so it must be his fault for not doing what I expect of him.

They don't think they need to compete. They think they're entitled to happily ever after. You should probably make sure your daughter doesn't fall into that trap if you want to ensure her future happiness. As all the unmarried women in their 40s alone with cats, all the 40yr old women in unhappy marriages with betas and all the 40yr old single moms will tell you... life doesn't hand you happiness on a plate. Women typically won't figure this out until it's far too late to do anything about it.

You want that top guy? Improve yourself to be more attractive and more pleasant to be around than your competition.

sparta2123 · 2015-09-19T12:57:22+00:00

The truth is even more stupidly simple than this. They don't want any specifically guy because hes the best of them. They want that guy because other women want him. If you asked your daughters what are his favorite hobbies , sports teams or any other thing , I guarantee they wouldn't know anything about that. They would however know about that slut Becky who gave him a blowjob last weekend.

leftajar · 2015-09-19T18:13:13+00:00

Think about how dumb and unaware the average guy is. Got a mental picture?

The average woman is worse -- far worse, in fact. Men have the Y chromosome, which enables the possibility of rational thinking. Doesn't mean it's guaranteed, but it's available. Women just got a double-dose of gut feeling. They really have no idea what they're doing, the vast majority of the time.

through_a_ways · 2015-09-19T17:44:53+00:00

On the flip side, a lot of the lower quality manosphere contributors complain about the exact same thing.

The reason so many men have trouble getting women is because other men in general have such a high sex drive that many are willing to fuck anything (even goats, in times of desperation)

huntersam13 · 2015-09-19T22:49:08+00:00

My Chinese gf is well aware of this fact. Your problem is entitled western feminist influenced women.

BrunoOh · 2015-09-19T14:24:00+00:00

Because they don't use logic. You'd think they'd pick some 75-85th percentile men, go on a couple of dates, fuck the one most likely to commit and go from there.

Instead, they all pile on the 5% guys.

ShounenEgo · 2015-09-19T19:58:09+00:00

A post by illimitableman (I think?) explained it best with the casino metaphor.

Yep, that's the one.

Title	Do women often not realize that _other women_ are their biggest problem, not him?
Author	4TBhdd
Upvotes	14
Comments	18
Date	September 19, 2015 11:04 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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