Another gem

JazzPhobic · 2025-01-12T18:50:08+00:00

These arent perpetrator rates but conviction rates.

Women are less likely to be convicted of a crime and have a legal immunity to certain crimes like rape, which is persecuted as sexual assault, if at all, thus skewing the statistics.

Scattershot98 · 2025-01-12T19:36:48+00:00

Imagine calling Suicide "violence committed by men". Anyways

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-BatrickPateman- · 2025-01-12T18:39:16+00:00

"Not all men but always a man"

Proceeds to give statistics showing it isn't always a man

Roge2005 · 2025-01-12T19:39:15+00:00

The thing about these kinds of statistics is that a lot of cases go under reported because a lot of women who get raped don’t report for different reasons like not wanting to talk about it or they’re simply not believed.

And then it’s the same with men, but also the notion that men can’t receive violence from women so they’re not taken as seriously.

Like, there are cases where men are coerced by women to engage in sexual acts or are made to penetrate, yet in the notion of some people a man can’t be raped with piv penetration because of how that kind of penetration works.

Some people wonder how men could be forced by women to do something because of the strength differences, but it’s just that some guys don’t like using force or are afraid to use it even on self defense.

But also a high amount of the male victims are children assaulted by older women and they’re told that “they should like it”.

ThinOriginal5038 · 2025-01-12T18:33:50+00:00

Nobody tell them that violent men are almost always out of a single mom household.

MindoverMuddle · 2025-01-12T20:47:31+00:00

The misuse of statistics to paint an entire gender with a broad brush is a dangerous and misleading narrative. It’s true that the "stats" from things like Tough Guise 2 get weaponized to make sweeping generalizations about all men, implying that violence, rape, and other crimes are inherent to men. But when you really look at the data, it doesn’t hold up.

For example, while men as a group may have higher representation in crimes like armed robbery, rape, and homicide, it’s essential to point out that the overwhelming majority of men do not commit these acts. The statistics that show high crime rates for men represent a very small percentage of the population. In fact, for things like rape, it’s less than 2% of the male population. The vast majority of men are law-abiding, decent people who don’t partake in these violent behaviours.

When you look at intimate partner violence, the narrative flips. Women are more likely to commit intimate partner violence in many studies, with lesbians experiencing some of the highest rates of domestic violence among all orientations. Additionally, women are overwhelmingly responsible for crimes like infanticide and child abuse. It’s not just that men are the sole perpetrators of violence, and those statistics are often downplayed or ignored by people pushing the “toxic masculinity” agenda.

The issue is that those pushing the radical feminist or misandrist narrative love to cherry-pick stats without any regard for nuance or context. They take incidents involving a small number of men and use those to smear all men. It's a classic case of selective outrage and ignoring the broader picture.

We need to counter this by not just pointing out these stats but also emphasizing that the vast majority of men are not involved in these extreme behaviours. It’s not about men being inherently violent or evil, but about understanding the complexities behind crime and violence in society—recognizing that it’s a small, extreme subset of people who are responsible, not the gender as a whole. It’s about seeing the stats for what they are and challenging these harmful narratives that aim to create division based on false generalizations.

Mysterious-Citron875 · 2025-01-12T18:46:26+00:00

They even added suicide to the list? Now suicide victims are the criminals?

Aside from biased statistics and pure propaganda and misinformation, they also conveniently hide statistics on theft, fraud, infanticide, and illegal abortions, because women are more likely to commit these crimes.

Jaffacakes-and-Jesus · 2025-01-12T22:44:53+00:00

The rape, stalking and DV stats are wrong. They included armed robbery but not child abuse (for obviously reasons). How many baby farmers are men do you reckon? Mass shooting is a very rare crime but it is included. Why include that but not infanticide? They also treat suicide as an act of violence which is really terrible. People deliberately say "die by suicide" rather than "commit suicide" because they rightly want to disassociate suicide from violence. This totally rejects that.

Finally, men on the whole don't associate masculine strength with violence. This takes the very complex social problem of crime, turns it into some very selective statistics about conviction rates and attributes it to one cause.

AigisxLabrys · 2025-01-13T01:58:32+00:00

It’s “always a man” because you refuse to accept the notion of a woman committing immoral acts.

CyclopeWarrior · 2025-01-13T02:13:24+00:00

The fun thing about these statistics, is that by every metric in those nice pictures men should be removed from society at all costs right?

But oh wait... What society could run without men...

No-Knowledge-8867 · 2025-01-13T02:22:02+00:00

Do you know what else returns similar statistics? Jobs in protection industries: police, army, fire dept., security. Awards for acts of bravery +95% men. That sort of data doesn't villianise men, though, and that's their real desire.

South-Steak-7810 · 2025-01-13T10:29:34+00:00

“Most men aren’t violent but 90% of violent crimes are committed by men.”

According to ChatGPT’s numbers, around 97%+ of men don’t get arrested and or convicted for violent crimes. Even if there are men that commit violent crimes and get away with it that still leaves us with the vast, vast majority of men that don’t commit violent crimes.

So an extremely small group of men commit violent crimes therefore ALL men are guilty.

And they follow up with: “For too long we’ve identified masculine strength with violence.” Who is we?

“But true strength comes from challenging the myth that being a real man means putting up a false front, disrespecting others, and engaging in violent and self-destructive behavior.” Again, who? Who is seeing disrespecting others people, and engaging in violent and self-destruction behavior as masculine behavior?

“Being a real man means putting up a false front”. Sooner or later men realize when they wear their heart on their sleeve they will get punished for it. Society abuses our emotions, our “weaknesses”, our humanity against us. And they then accuse us of putting up a false front. Aka, protecting ourselves.

“Let’s lose the tough guise and start being real men.” And what does it mean to these people to be “a real man”, because they don’t address that.

That’s one fucked up way of thinking these people have.

TrustOk7600 · 2025-01-13T15:42:31+00:00

The selectiveness of this is appalling

Title	Another gem
Author	throwawaymarblez
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Date	January 12, 2025 6:24 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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