Need a response to this

OwnerEmperorDevil666 · 2025-02-23T10:54:34+00:00

I’d honestly just go to sleep rather than comment back to this individual. Real men need rest so we can mentally prepare to endure discrimination from co-workers and bosses to avoid a workplace death (ours) but rather than quit, we must continue with it because we need the job and rather not be homeless while alive.

EmirikolWoker · 2025-02-23T10:51:31+00:00

"Prove it." If it's not gender, there must be some other factor that satisfactorily explains all these things that all of these men have in common. If that thing is "societal attitudes towards men" (i.e., men are seen as capable, therefore they don't receive help), congratulations, they've just conceded that societal attitudes towards gender are a key factor in discrimination.

Consider also that gaps showing black people to be a disadvantaged group in the US have comparable or greater gaps favouring women, implying that either black people are privileged like men, or that men are disadvantaged like black people.

EriknotTaken · 2025-02-23T12:13:32+00:00

"If every single human were a women, no death-work would be their own fault"

This is a believe, you will have better luck proving god is real. You cannot prove it wrong...

We can say that is not logical.

They dont believe in logic.

iainmf · 2025-02-23T18:18:27+00:00

The UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women defines gender as a hierarchy that disadvantages women. It is no surprise that feminists can't comprehend disadvantages that men face are not about gender, when they understand gender to be a system that disadvantages women.

## CEDAW General Recommendation 28 - Paragraph 5

> Although the Convention only refers to sex-based discrimination, interpreting article 1 together with articles 2 (f) and 5 (a) indicates that the Convention covers gender-based discrimination against women. The term “sex” here refers to biological differences between men and women. The term “gender” refers to socially constructed identities, attributes and roles for women and men and society’s social and cultural meaning for these biological differences resulting in hierarchical relationships between women and men and in the distribution of power and rights favouring men and disadvantaging women. This social positioning of women and men is affected by political, economic, cultural, social, religious, ideological and environmental factors and can be changed by culture, society and community. The application of the Convention to gender-based discrimination is made clear by the definition of discrimination contained in article 1. This definition points out that any distinction, exclusion or restriction which has the effect or purpose of impairing or nullifying the recognition, enjoyment or exercise by women of human rights and fundamental freedoms is discrimination, even where discrimination was not intended. This would mean that identical or neutral treatment of women and men might constitute discrimination against women if such treatment resulted in or had the effect of women being denied the exercise of a right because there was no recognition of the pre-existing gender-based disadvantage and inequality that women face. The views of the Committee on this matter are evidenced by its consideration of reports, its general recommendations, decisions, suggestions and statements, its consideration of individual communications and its conduct of inquiries under the Optional Protocol.

EriknotTaken · 2025-02-23T14:04:54+00:00

Just realized, thats the claim islamist made.

Since men death is their own making, and women die because their gender, women need permision of men to do anything to not die because their gender...

Please someone debunk this

63daddy · 2025-02-23T16:13:40+00:00

Anyone who argues work place death being 95% men year after year is due to random chance clearly doesn’t understand statistics.

Then of course we have laws legally disadvantaging men that are documented fact.

CawlinAlcarz · 2025-02-23T17:24:18+00:00

I know I'm going to Hell for this, but this is a Special Olympics argument.

It doesn't really matter who wins. Both participants are Special Olympians.

Your best bet, OP, is to just walk away from this ridiculous argument. There is nothing to gain, and nobody will change their mind.

Medium-Knowledge4230 · 2025-02-23T21:40:54+00:00

I've been having a "flip the table" strategy. Make what she is saying look misogynistic, racism or expose contradictions. Example: -"Women need to be protected from men" -"You are telling me that women are weak and can't protect themselves?"

Repulsive-Plan1795 · 2025-02-23T19:40:55+00:00

I would ignore them I’ve said F off to some of them and they’ve got me community noted but they are allowed to post hateful videos about men???? Like how’s that fair

Medium-Knowledge4230 · 2025-02-23T21:42:32+00:00

Ok, being honest: normally arguing with strangers on the internet is a bad idea. Waste of time.

Yuan_The_F2 · 2025-02-24T12:18:39+00:00

The respond of that tiktok commenter is a form of illogical fallacy, what you can say is "regardless wether or not the problem is gender related, mans issue should also be resolve and find remedy not because a man is a man he should not be deprive of his right to demand remedy or solution to general problem for the reason of his gender"

Title	Need a response to this
Author	Dangerous-House-4684
Upvotes	8
Comments	12
Date	February 23, 2025 10:41 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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