Im confused?

Advanced_Hedgehog427 · 2025-10-06T10:00:06+00:00

I think your problem is that even tho you acknowledge your strenghts you're insecure about yourself because of the way you talk like "I'm more quiet, I'm in the lower".

You can be a more introspective guy with a little selection of friends and still own it, you do have to practice your confidence because you still need to be a bit of a smooth talker, have some banter to get a girl to like you, your height and face is a plus yeah but with women is all about how you make her feel.

norwegiandoggo · 2025-10-06T10:36:51+00:00

I think your main problem is this idea that "women will give me attention"

No. Women don't "give you attention". You need to make the first move. Women typically don't make the first move. Men make the first move.

Yes I know some dudes do get attention. But most guys don't. And you need to stop obsessing over attention and begin asking women out instead.

Attention doesn't mean shit. You need to make a move. That's what means anything. Hit on women!! Shoot your shot!!!

And if you truly just care about attention - you can buy yourself a very tall purple hat. That will give you all the attention you could ever want.

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-10-06T11:31:01+00:00

Some guys do have women flock to them. The craziest example I can recall was this guy who was only like 5'5 and had women chasing him on a vacation I was on several years ago. But he had like 11/10 charisma and just had an aura about him where people wanted to listen and follow him around because he pretty much dictated the energy of the room, and he wasn't a loud guy or anything. Women were gossiping about him and trying to sleep with him the entire two week trip. But don't use outliers as gospel. Most guys will need to initiate and not wait for women to come to them.

FixAccomplished9993 · 2025-10-06T11:55:33+00:00

6'4 at 17 is almost too tall that you are probably way too skinny right now. Make sure to just keep eating like crazy.

alifteronreddit · 2025-10-06T14:21:51+00:00

Sounds like you have some grinding to do.

Status is short form for socioeconomic status. That is your money and your social capability. The rare area you gain status without money is artistry.. like a talented musician or writer. Those people still have to work a lot to set themselves apart from the crowd enough to gain status.

Since the majority of status results from money/career, just focus on a well paying career for the next ten years (and the gym in your spare time). It takes a lot of perseverance and grit to truly feel like you’ve started to “make it”. Don’t be fooled thinking that landing an entry level job will do the trick.

If you have a couple good friends right now, try to convince them to do them same and stay as close as possible. You will only have a harder time to make friends as you get older. Women will want to see that you are not only successful yourself but also in a successful social circle that gives them access to multiple (beneficial) relationships.

Kierenbrowncoach · 2025-10-07T09:06:25+00:00

You’re not stuck, you’re just early in the game. At 17, women don’t actually care about “tall, dark, and handsome.” They care about social proof. Right now, they’re drawn to confidence, connection, and the energy that comes from being comfortable in your own skin. You’ve got the height and looks, but you’re missing the presence. The guy who gets attention isn’t always the best-looking one, he’s the one who knows how to be seen.

You don’t need to fake popularity, you just need to show up with energy. Talk to people more. Crack jokes. Be the guy who brings calm confidence into a room instead of waiting for people to notice him. You don’t have to talk every second, but when you do talk, speak with intent. Look people in the eye, take up space, and own your voice. That alone makes people tune in.

As for social status, it’s built, not given. Join things, show up consistently, and bring value to the people around you. Every time you make someone laugh, lead something, or help others feel at ease, your presence rises naturally. That’s what women notice, not the height, not the face, but the energy of a guy who leads his own life.

Most-Famous-Wasabi · 2025-10-09T08:21:22+00:00

>> What im really confused about is some people are saying that if your tall then women seem to flock to you, yet I dont seem to be one of those people.

Congratulations for discovering that most dating advice is complete shit.

Yeah, height is a *slight* advantage. But it is not sufficient.

>> Anyway I would appreciate tips or advice on my current issue.

Read the wiki of this sub.

Read 'Double Your Dating'.

Maybe hit up the Mark Manson book 'Models'. I've started to read it, and it's ok so far.

When you get time, tune in to Owen Cook's material on youtube.

Also, ignore the loser on this thread who equates social status with socioeconomic status. There's a germ of truth in this, but it's pretty much bullshit. Yeah, it's great to work on career and making money. But the world is full of rich dudes who lack the specific social skills related to dating/romance/sex.

"Money = success in dating"is bullshit.

It is your social skills that determine your status.
Moreover - it is the specific subset of social skills discussed in the wiki.

Title	Im confused?
Author	Suspicious_Bit992
Upvotes	5
Comments	10
Date	October 6, 2025 9:44 AM UTC (9 months ago)
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