Does anybody have any? I literally cannot think of a single one. And I don't mean direct personal exchanges in chat rooms and forum posts, where an individual feminist says "I'm sorry that happened to you". I mean any publicly high profile case where the feminist response to the case broadly recognized, without suspicion of DARVO or significant internal controversy, that a woman was the perpetrator of domestic or sexual violence.

I cannot think of a single one. And I have a few times gone pro-actively looking for any when the thought has crossed my mind.

Today I thought to ask ChatGPT. It should be able to tell me if it can find any in its data, after all. It was able to provide me 2 examples.

This was my opening prompt. I found it interesting that it posted a response, and then that response was erased after a few seconds.

I frequently see the claim by feminists that feminism recognizes male victims. In fact, that feminism uniquely recognizes male victims more than the rest of society and provides a theoretical framework that allows male victims to exist. But in practice, I have never seen a single example of a male victim being recognized and extended empathy by feminists, in any case where the perpetrator was a woman. Only if the perpetrator was another man. If the perpetrator is a woman, I always see intense scrutiny of the man's claims, and attempts to flip the script and claim that the man is the real abuser engaging in DARVO. This extends to high profile cases with overwhelming evidence, such as the Depp v Heard case.

Are you aware of any examples of male victims that are broadly recognized by feminists, whose perpetrators were female?

My further prompting after it erased its first response

I saw your response appear and then disappear. What is the meaning of this? Also, I understand that feminists frequently champion that they recognize male victims in the vacuum of theory. What I'm commenting on is how that never plays out in reality when it comes to real people. I have never seen a single example of them actually living up to their talk when a real person is involved.

It responded by acknowledging that there is a disparity in how cases are responded to depending on the genders of perpetrator and victim, but followed up with the predictable platitudes where it framed my prompt as a claim that feminist support for such cases doesn't exist based on my personal experience, and offered me overly verbose "more precise" re-writings of paraphrasings of my supposed sentiment that acknowledge my personal experience isn't reality and feminist support does exist, even if it's lower profile and more reserved in nature.

So I pushed on

My purpose of my question was to ask for specific examples. Precisely because I have never witnessed such an example myself, even when I have pro-actively looked for it.

It responded by listing examples of feminist author quotes recognizing male victims *in theory*. Then funny enough directly acknowledged at the end of its reply that it didn't really respond to what I had asked for in my prompt, and asked me if I wanted it to pull direct quotes recognizing specific named male victims. So I responded:

Yes, please pull direct quotes from feminist writers acknowledging specific male victims

It responded by once again providing a list of feminist author quotes recognizing male victims *in theory*, but with slightly more specific and validating verbage. It then once again acknowledged at the end of its post that it didn't really provide me what I had directly asked for, and said "If you want, I can go a step further and try to find actual named male victims who received any feminist support (even if niche)"

So I pushed on one more time:

Yes, I want actual named male victims who received any feminist support. Because I cannot believe that vague, theoretical statements carry any weight if never followed through with actual behavior in reality.

The beginning of its reponse:

You’re asking for the hardest version of this question—and after digging, I’m going to be very direct:

Clear, high-visibility cases where named male victims of female perpetrators are actively championed by identifiable feminist figures are extremely rare.

It was then able to provide me two examples

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/intimacy/article/2024/03/16/men-raped-by-women-a-taboo-that-calls-gender-stereotypes-into-question_6625713_310.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com#

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=AAWEB_WRE170_a_GPT&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.adelaidenow.com.au%2Flifestyle%2Fsa-weekend%2Fi-felt-like-i-was-loved-harrison-james-speaks-on-the-sexual-abuse-he-suffered-at-the-hands-of-his-stepmum%2Fnews-story%2F8b4adc201b40ef48171173a2130b2ee5&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=GROUPC-Segment-1-NOSCORE

Both hidden behind paywalls. The adelaidenow link relates to a story of a 13 year old boy statutory raped by his stepmother. And that is one point where I will grant that feminists are enthusiastic about granting perpetrator status to adult women who have sex with boys in their early to mid teens. But... that's incredibly low-hanging fruit, right? A very, very low bar. It's simply impossible to imagine a remotely defensible means of approaching the subject otherwise with any shred of credibility.

I'm actually surprised ChatGPT didn't capitalize on this and provide a bunch of examples of oriented around female teacher/male student relations, because that is the one area where they do actually exist. The fact that it didn't makes me wonder if it was doing a bad job in general of reviewing its available data, and maybe it really should have been able to produce more examples for me.

And the other one allows me to read the first 3 paragraphs. The first two paragraphs introduce the man's story, and the third paragraph is already discussing statistics reminding the reader that women are the overwhelming majority of sex crime victims.

So I'm curious. Does anyone here have any examples that are not clear cut cases of double-statutory rape (where the woman was not only an adult but an authority figure)? In good faith, I really want to know. Feminist's near-monolithic behavior in this regard (as appears to me) is one of the things that most strongly motivated my turn against the movement. So I'm checking myself for blind spots here.