Frame definition?

trpdgc · 2016-01-16T19:20:41+00:00

Frame is stability of mood and control of a relationship, independent of what's within said frame.

Like a picture frame, the outside holds it all together and has nothing to do with the maelstrom in the art. At best you're complementary. A woman is the art piece and the frame is what holds her in place, enabling her to express herself and experience her feelings. You are not part of the picture, the picture exists within you.

Another good analogy is a structural framework in architecture such as columns and walls. They don't give a shit what's decorating them, but they set the stage and limits on what can be done. If you're a dinky house it'll be filled with small and shitty furniture. If you're a big mansion you'll be endowed with the finest materials.

In a relationship, you don't get drawn in to dramatic bullshit. Your job is to hold her together and to show strength. You don't opine on matters, you approve or reject. You build shit or tear it apart. You destroy things that get in your way and reward those who help your cause. You always know what you want, you go and get it, and you never apologize for it. You are unbeatable, unassailable, and unsurmountable. Your body and mind both reflect this.

Ko7a · 2016-01-16T22:09:25+00:00

I read a thread a couple of years ago that frame is aesthetic as well. Lifting an all that jazz is one thing, but keeping a perfect posture, taking up room with your arms, and just generally telling everyone around you that you're the alpha with only your body language. I applied this personally, after a couple of weeks, other guys started commenting on it, they thought I had been lifting (which I was, but it wasn't what they were observing), and told me 'I had been bulking up.' I wish I could find that thread because it has some good shit in it.

awkwardtouching · 2016-01-16T20:39:30+00:00

Frame is simply defining your own reality/truth and then drawing others into it. It's what good leaders do. They make reality, and others buy into it (or not) but the leader doesn't get sucked into someone elses reality.

speed3_freak · 2016-01-16T20:25:19+00:00

When the outside affects what is going on inside you, respond with logic rather than emotions.

SkorchZang · 2016-01-17T00:03:45+00:00

The world is vast & full of nuances. Human intelligence is puny. A tiny section of this puny human intelligence is used in social situations to determine what's right, and what's wrong, and who should be doing what.

How do you use a tiny piece of a puny intelligence to interact with something as vast as the world? We got the answer and it's easy: just pick some random parts you can see, ignore everything else, and then socially act like your vast intelligence just solved the whole world. I.e. I am right, because of reasons A and B. But what about reasons Z, Y , E, W, M, O, T... etc.? Huh, not my problem, reasons A and B are on my side, the rest doesn't exist to me.

That is exactly what Framing is, in its classical definition that far precedes TRP. Good "Frame Control" is praised here, because of obvious advantages to be gotten from being the one to decide which reasons A, B, C will be part of the discussion, and which XYZ's will not enter into it. This is a skill that helps you when people try to introduce their XYZ reasons that you don't want to deal with; so you confuse them by repeatedly drawing them back into your own frame of ABC and forcing them to consider the issue on those terms, in that light, with that mental frame (that you controlled all along, unbeknownst to them).

Money_Bags97 · 2016-01-18T00:16:24+00:00

I define it with one word, "Uncompromising".

Your "frame" is only as strong as your ability to not compromise your values, morals, beliefs, ideas, and your decisions, unless to gain knowledge, help a loved one, or better your circumstances in the workforce.

MrFuckupKing · 2016-01-16T23:15:03+00:00

Frame as that which is not an act but that as what you are is something you become by becoming self actualized.

As a self actualized person you are fully autonomous.

It is a sense (understanding/awareness/knowing) of self that is so deep and profound it cannot be disturbed by others regardless of what they do.

It does not mean you are unfeeling and actually you can feel deeply because you no longer lose yourself in those feelings

Perfect frame is perfect identity as an awareness of who you are that is so powerful no one can steal it from you.

No one can make you question who you are in ways that cause you to have doubt (threaten self as identity) so you become comfortable with questioning who you are as an adventure into self discovery.

You have fully stepped outside the herd while remaining in it.

This experience is almost exclusively a male experience and why religion and philosophy is largely a male domain. They were searching for perfect frame.

As a child everyone defined you and because they gave you your identity they could also take it from you.

You became dependent on others to know yourself and also to keep yourself.

Perfect frame is the result of moving beyond this.

It stops being holding frame because it no longer requires effort or conscious will. You are complete and nothing can disturb this.

You have moved beyond needing others to find yourself or to retain yourself.

Perfect frame is an existential state of mind.

One of the best examples in a movie of a man seeking and finding this was a 1946 movie called "The Razors Edge" with Tyrone Powers

Title	Frame definition?
Author	RPThrowaway098
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Date	January 16, 2016 6:59 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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