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Would like your thoughts on this

MementoMordor

November 5, 2020
14 upvotes
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https://paulskallas.substack.com/p/universal-basic-income-only-for-women

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Title Would like your thoughts on this
Author

MementoMordor

Upvotes 14
Comments 40
Date November 5, 2020 9:13 PM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MGTOW2
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/mgtow2/comments/jor8jy/would-like-your-thoughts-on-this/
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Comments

[–]30203forever19 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

In other words, having a guaranteed roof over their heads and food on their tables after popping out a chad's/tyrone's kid is no longer enough. Now, they're also demanding some guaranteed $$$ in their Gucci pocketbooks... Guess what "ladies", chad/tyrone will provide because it's his kid after all and you knew exactly what you were doing. Your body, your choice, your decision, your problem.

[–]rockafault9 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A genie granting infinite wishes would lose its luster in time. If we pulled women out of any other time in history to live with what the average western woman has today their gratitude would be short lived. Women's expectations are a great tool to move humans forward, but I understand why Agent Smith found us revolting.

[–]Blissbynature12 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

From the article:

"What about Men and UBI?

Men can go get a job. This is America. Billions of people around the world are dying to get in this country. They want a shot."

They won't want to come here anymore if women have a free universal basic income and men have to work. Men will flee America at that point. You would have to build a wall to keep the men here.

People generally go where there is free money for them or more freedom. So you'll have a kind of sexual osmosis where women scramble to get into America and men scramble to get out.

[–]TheApricotCavalier6 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Men will flee America at that point.

Not as easy as it sounds. The ones who can are fleeing already

[–]Metalcrazyx12 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I support universal basic homelessness. If you don't work, you don't eat.

[–]plamplamthrow03214 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That's a good one. Gonna have to remember that lol.

[–]VestigialHead10 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

My God that is about the most insane thing I have seen from the feminists. They are not even pretending to be about equality any more. Why are the powers that be not treating them as a toxic dangerous cult at this point?

[–][deleted]8 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why are the powers that be not treating them as a toxic dangerous cult at this point?

Feminism is a multibillion dollar industry now.

[–]CycloneKelly1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I consider myself a feminist and I think this is sexist and disgusting!

[–]ReddiReaders8 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Fucking leeeches

[–]Richardhg8 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There's quite a bit to unpack in that essay.

The US Covid 19 scenario is a real paradox. In 2017, the Trump White House began to dismantle the entire readiness program for biological agents. This included pandemic response, biowarfare response by the DoD, and it seems that the Congress and Senate were not aware of this. The dismantling was completed by August 2019.

First, it assumes that lockdown, social distancing, masks, etc will continue to be the American norm, and in this environment, women will do the raising and educating of children. Why not make this equal opportunity care-giving and pay either the man or woman who is doing the educating at home? Many fathers would welcome that option. It makes sense that a breastfeeding mom needs to be intimately involved in the 24-hour care of her new infant, but as the child nears school age the issue of education is more of a tribal issue than a parental issue.

The graph for antidepressants is very revealing. Happiness studies have been showing that women are getting steadily more and more miserable and dissatisfied with their lives. What's really interesting is that the studies have shown that men have always been much more miserable and dissatisfied with their lives than women, and now women are at last joining the men. Women aren't as miserable as men yet, but they're getting there.

Men only address their depression issues when they are life-threatening. Most men accept they will die years younger than women on average, and a lot of this is likely due to self-medication (alcohol, nicotine, recreational drugs, etc). However, as women enter the miserable zone, they are aware of the change and get anti-depressants from their doctors.

This is regarded as a crisis for women, but men are still left completely out of any discussion.

We can see the common threads here. Men have always been the dray horses of society. They do the hard physical jobs, they go to war. We don't see women marching for equal rights to become plumbers, bricklayers, construction workers, etc. :)

We need to do two things.

First, we need to get a massive testing program going so that every American is tested every two weeks. Quarantine the infected, and pay them to be in quarantine, say $400 a week per person. Within a month of beginning this testing program, we could stop wearing masks and social distancing and everybody could get back to work. Then we could get the kids back in school.

Second, we need to focus on improving the happiness of both women and men in the US.

I'm a New Zealander. I've lived in the US for a long time. I've seen people becoming unhappier, more miserable, more stressed, and Future Shock, information overload, and conspiracy theories are all becoming the hallmarks of America.

It's time to get joyful! Yeah, MGTOW is a great way to dig down and find your own core, but when you get there, you should be rebuilding your life with a big helping of relaxed happiness .

[–]onlypinhead20003 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm an American, and I'm living a fairly great life right now. Now given, it depends on where in the USA you're located. I'm in the midwest where the economy has been somewhat untouched.

[–]gainzgirl8 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's called child support. If you're infertile you have to grow up, make your own money, and convince a man to marry you for mutual benefit

[–]casra8881 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Good luck!

[–]plamplamthrow03218 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

muh vagina: The Article.

They asked for all of that. They literally protested for it. Fuck them, i love when i see the depressed wagie lamenting her childless wine aunt life because she's too picky and there's millions of guys that would fuck her but she's "too good" for them. Cry me a river!

Edit: Also fuck this whole "women need to be at home with the kids." Last time i checked, women and men are mere social constructs. Gender is not real, so men can be fully capable mothers in 2020 if they choose to identify as such. In that light, the article is discriminatory and highly transphobic bigotry.

[–]ImlackingOriginality8 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Time to identify as a fucking woman.

[–][deleted]4 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

YES! I keep saying to you all.. the only way shit will change is for every man to line up and get government ID stating they are female.

[–]toerrisbadsyntax3 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Dude did it in Alberta for cheaper car insurance...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-trans-licence-change-female-1.4763834

[–][deleted]2 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

YES!! Now more!

Gender markers 'irrelevant' No gender marker should be on government-issued ID, said Panas.

"They serve no purpose," she said. "They're irrelevant."

[–]toerrisbadsyntax1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Its not that it's irrelevant.. Its counter-relevant.

The purpose of having to list gender is exactly to divide us - into exactly what was desired. It literally does us no good and propagates the status quo!

"The fairer sex"... Yeah sure... And I'll show the feds a bodybuilding female and a pencilneck accountant and ask again... Who's the fairer sex?

Listing gender to dole out "privlidges" is only a right for the weak?😂

🤡🌍

[–][deleted]3 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

🤡🌍 HONK HONK

If every man went out next week and got government ID stating they are female.. then they could sign up for all kinds of women only programs for assistance.

[–]Bourbonandcigars067 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Entitlement comes in all forms

[–]CoolDEpot5 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

omg

[–]YouSaidChicken5 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Luckily it would be illegal in the US. Because they would surely love to pass something like this troll post.

[–][deleted]5 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This article was insanity. Imagine the cognitive dissonance it took to have these thoughts. I would be fine with a UBI for everyone if anything. If everyone got a certain amount from the very start, there would be less stress overall. Far less needless marriages/divorce, and more financial independence across the board.

[–]rockafault5 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

"The problem is that right now a lot of women don't really have choices. They can't send their kids to school. Someone has to supervise the learning. Someone has to deal with the cooking. Someone has to deal with the cleaning, and it's falling onto them. And so they can't make choices that they want to make because they're being restricted in all these ways."

So universal basic income would encourage more women to stay home and more men would have to work so that these women can take care of their children. So traditionalism then? Are we going to count UBI when calculating the wage gap when we haven't been doing that for child support and alimony? And they still want government to replace the father in the home without giving up any other welfare programs they voted for themselves. I love democracy.

"No one talks about it. Women face the unique problem of having a family, having a good career, being a good mother and being a good wife. This is personally tough and destabilizing society. "

You don't fucking say.

[–]casra8885 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Unique? Hardly. Welcome to being a man.

[–]toerrisbadsyntax3 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I do I.t. in my familys business.

My family (and culture) are very matriarchal (even though the business has me and my dads last name on it and I'm the last of the line...)

I found out during covid that you are exactly correct!

They got everything they wanted... And now they're responsible for home schooling and their families and business and and and and .... and they're both freaking out!

Meanwhile I told them "this is a place of business, not a daycare, my job allows me and us the luxury of working from home (while one sister lives behind the office)...

The "help" I got over covid was hearing that I won't get to see my daughter "until covid is over"

So... That being said... Aside from not being able to have ANY time with my daughter.... I also no longer have to do the 9-5 or listen to either sisters bullshit or I say its unsafe,uncourteous, and unwise as business owners.

So ya... You're right on the money! They got all the power... And cry at the responsibility!

[–]mebf1094 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Only-for-women. What is there that's only for men? Oh yeah, the Selective Service System!

[–]Perseus_the_Bold3 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If women are going to be receiving a cut of my taxes that means i have the right to have a final say on how they spend my money. Like a parent giving a child an allowance, my money = my choice. I will decide how I want her to spend my money because there is no taxation without representation. Money talks, and when it comes to my money it will speak with my voice!

The article is written by a mega simp of course.

[–]BillCl1tcum3 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Well, lets switch the genders and say that men do the same. That would mean all things like most (public) transportations, mining industries & all others will stop working. They choose this option of becoming a single mother. It mean being responsible for the consequences too.

On the other hand Im highly in favor of universal programs that can get beggars of the street. Especially if they are men and vets.

And also I hope covid will stay for some time. That way 3rd wave feminism can feel what it is like

Also be grateful what you have. And focus on yourself to become better. Stop caring for a world that doesnt care for you.

[–]onlypinhead20000 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Regardless of the presidential election, I'm buying myself a Golden Tee machine.

[–]TheApricotCavalier2 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Makes sense. Corruption infects everything

[–]Nathaniel662 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A new definition of "equality".

[–]CuriousIncel21 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

UBI only for women?

Uh doc ... I have gender dysphoria.

[–]sinned_tragedy1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A lot of good points, I have no need to restate them. To top it all off, a man wrote this. What a self-hating cuck.

[–]CycloneKelly1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That is so wrong. Horribly sexist. And I’m a woman.

[–]moneygang4life0 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The entitlement is unbelievable

[–]adikshin0 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

if this is real than I guess im a women now.. Whats next single male tax?!?

[–]MementoMordor2 points 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Don't give them any ideas

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