Why Gender Equality Stalled

CaptSnap · 2013-02-17T16:03:51+00:00

Gender Equality didnt stall because everyone realized you cant work and do other crap. If you want to quit working for any length of time to pursue personal goals whether its traveling, raising kids, building houses in third world countries or free-basing cocaine off a Thai hooker's ass then it should come as no surprise that youre going to lose out in the job market to those who decide to keep working diligently. Thats how choices and responsibility works. I cant just quit work whenever I feel like it because I also want to do other shit and expect the same pay/promotion/etc as someone who is there all the time working his ass off like the company pays him to do. What a huge revelation that must have been.

This phenomenon isnt the absence of equality, this is the application of equality.

What this author is advocating is letting women have their cake and eat it too. She notes that men work more hours. She notes that men are less likely to sacrifice their careers. And she notes that you cant drop ass out of the job market and be as competitive as someone that does not. Then theres that pay gap again, women make all these choices but still are paid less.

So in her article she basically advocates that women should not have to be responsible for their choices. They shouldnt have to bear the costs for missed opportunities like the rest of us. Everyone else has to accept the costs of their choices, the opportunity cost of missed experiences, but women shouldnt have to.

The really funny thing is the brunt of this problem is about reproduction and child raising. In her three pages she doesnt devote a single sentence to reproductive rights for men. Men can either support women's rights to realize their reproductive choices by shouldering the load when someone drops out of the office or they can get fired.

See thats not what equality looks like. Thats what gender roles look like. Lets let women stay home and lets take care of them and lets not make them responsible for anything, let the man be responsible by working longer hours to provide. But instead of doing this on a case by case opt-in basis lets create broad social policy that forces everyone into it and lets call that equality.

Geno777 · 2013-02-17T16:32:09+00:00

That entire article is a load of feminist bullshit:

Women buy 91% of New Homes.. and they're STILL complaining!

Women own 66% of all PCs.. and they're STILL complaining!

Women take 92% of the Vacations... and they're STILL complaining!

Women receive 80% of all Healthcare... and they're STILL complaining!

Women buy 65% of the New Cars... and they're STILL complaining!

Women hold 89% of the Bank Accounts... and they're STILL complaining!

Women account for 68 percent of all total online spending... and they're STILL complaining!

Women account for 85% of all consumer purchases... and they're STILL complaining!

Women control 65 percent of all personal wealth in the U.S. ... and they're STILL complaining!

Women are starting their own businesses at twice the rate of men... and they're STILL complaining!

http://www.she-conomy.com/facts-on-women

American women are the most privileged people IN HUMAN HISTORY. They need to enjoy their gains and stfu.

Crimson_D82 · 2013-02-17T17:07:43+00:00

Women are still paid less than men at every educational level and in every job category. They are less likely than men to hold jobs that offer flexibility or family-friendly benefits. When they become mothers, they face more scrutiny and prejudice on the job than fathers do.

BULLSHIT.

Ma99ie · 2013-02-17T17:05:08+00:00

"Why Gender Equality Stalled..."

...because feminist definitions of "equality", and the their preferred methodology to their definition of "equality" are not based on facts or the human experience, as much as it is on an ideology created from bullshit.

VaginalAssaultRifles · 2013-02-17T18:06:33+00:00

So women are choosing to have children and are either:

Leaving the work force to do so, if only temporarily

or

Remaining in full time employment and wishing they weren't

And it's men's fault, as usual.

2013-02-17T18:09:31+00:00

Yet progress in adopting family-friendly work practices and social policies has proceeded at a glacial pace.

If they introduced more "family friendly work practices", men and women who don't have children would succeed over their colleagues that chose to have kids on a massive scale. Indeed, if such practices were put in place, I would imagine many men would simply forego the "benefits" offered when they have a child and remain pushing on so they compete with their childfree counterparts.

iMADEthis2post · 2013-02-18T02:26:50+00:00

Fuck saske guys, you're really picking on the wrong article here. Some of the fucking comments here.. fuck.

How the fuck are some of you any different than militant man hating feminists that look for misogyny at every turn?

The fucking energy you dumb cunts just wasted on this none issue of an article is amazing.

There were actually a few good points in it that could have been expanded upon.

There was practically nothing in that article inflammatory towards men and half of you are acting like you have been called rapists.

Pack it the fuck in and stop making the entire MRA look like idiots. I'm fucking ashamed.

VaginalAssaultRifles · 2013-02-17T21:01:43+00:00

So.... Feminism only works under communist totalitarianism? Yep.

ekjohnson9 · 2013-02-18T00:23:17+00:00

Comment from the NYT comments section:

My mother lived to 95 and would have lived past 100 quite easily but a large auto hit her and crippled her to a great degree and so she "died young." Her friends, all "victims" of inequality, lived into their 90's and three past 100. They were moms, kept house, cooked and shopped, raised gardens, changed diapers, went to PTA meetings, and met with each other for some fun and gossip during any kind of social gathering. Each week day they would meet for coffee at one or the others' home and if one were to walk past and overhear the laughter and conversation they would think they were watching TV, they weren't of course, they were just enjoying their very unequal lives. Poor dears, all that inequality, and them nobly laughing and having fun, how touching. They had to rely on their husbands, and in those days the family saving was 20% per year, on one income, and that was middle class incomes at that. But these poor victims of inequality were denied the joys of working for someone else and making them rich, how sad. They weren't allowed to carry a gun in battle and get their heads blown off, tragic. They outlived their husbands by 15 to 50 years, poor dears. Wait a minute, there's something wrong here. Men went off to war, and if they survived they worked until they dropped, they gave up their lives and died young while their wives lived to ripe old age. Women's Liberation initiated war of the sexes. Why? Many bad reasons, families lost corporations won. Psychopaths rule us.

Title	Why Gender Equality Stalled
Author	mayonesa
Upvotes	33
Comments	34
Date	February 17, 2013 3:15 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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