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Poorcel, what can i do? help me

Professional_Tie9912

April 14, 2026

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Hello, i might be a 5, maybe even6 from just looks, but i lost my job which was very specific and now i cant go back there and with 35+ age, i would have to start from zero, and i dont have the energy for that. A normal but respectable job, that could be considered "okish" is not offered to me, and i dont want to work at MCdonalds and similar stuff too. On the other hand i dont want to be a parasite, but i dont want to work at Mcdonalds either, because with my age this is considered too low, and a 5 or 6 in looks is not good enough to compensate, i know i wont be able to betabuxx like a doctor or an engineer or something, but working at Mcdonalds is also a deathsentence to dating. I feel like iam trapped, i either chose to be NEET, which also gives me 0 Dating opportunity but at least i have peace but then i am also parasitic to a degree, or i am forced to work MCdumb or similar, which also reduced my dating chance to 0 but it would freak me out. Any other job, that is considered "bearable" i was rejected like forklift driver, train driver. FUCK, what can i do? And before anyone asks me, "why dont you date a 2 or 3 when you are a 5 or 6 from just looks", i can tell you that, because i find them so unattractive that i cant get an errection and even if i could, i am not a trash person that makes children if he has no money like a n**** would do..... FUCK, i hate life

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Title	Poorcel, what can i do? help me
Author	Professional_Tie9912
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Comments	49
Date	April 14, 2026 3:11 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]ViolentShallot7 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99122 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

basically i am trying to elaborate my "options" if it is worth to start again or i just let it be, the only problem i have right now is that i must hide from society, i feel like i am attacked for being a "neet", and i also dont want to be parasite also, but if i cant achieve what i think it is "okish" for me, why be a "wagecuck", i dont want to be parasite either, is there a third option like to leave society then? i dont want to be a slaveworker, but i dont want to be parasite either, what can i do to exit society to avoid being "attacked" for who i am. i offered part time working and reduce my bills to zero, but that option was also declined, they wanted me fulltime slave, they didnt gave me the option to go part time and reduce my spendings to 0 to just exist but avoid society, they want me as slave, but as a slave you dont get girls or only girls i would never date even if i would be 60y old or homeless

[–]Professional_Tie9912-1 point 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

i am older than 35, i dont want so say my real age. i dont have the energy anymore for a real trade job, with full apprenticeship, that time it takes i earn 0 and when i am finished i might be to old to have interest anymoe in a partner, thus i require a faster solution, like in factories, which i tried but got rejected. you see my dilemma? Also for some reason i dont "like" the average person working in traditional "trades" i find them unsympathic, factory people always appealed more to me. i think life has to "flow", if the only way you can find a partner is by slaving like a farmhorse day and night, then better accept your fate and call it a day, there has to be some room for pleasure left

i had a specific job as train dispatcher, which i cant do anymore because auf light depressions, now i am forced to do something else, and i am approaching 40 years, i am not interested in single mothers, and a 20y old wont take me even if i was a doctor or engineer

[–]ViolentShallot5 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't see the dilemma. You're thirty nine, say slurs like "nïggers" for no reason whatsoever, use cringy incel terminology, choose to leave your job, choose not to work a trade "because you don't like the people because they are unsympathetic" (oh, the irony)

There's no dilemma. Just an adult man's tantrum.

if the only way you can find a partner is by slaving like a farmhorse day and night

You don't need to slave like a farmhorse. Getting a partner has two stages: Securing short term interest, and long term commitment.

For the short term interest, the name of the game is:

Looks: You're average. That's fine enough if the rest is good.
Confidence: You refuse to even try, not to fail. Your "disdain" for anything you could fail at betrays absolute insecurity.
Charisma: You use cringy terms. You act like a spoiled child. You have no wit, and most importantly, you whine. That's the opposite of attractive.
Assertiveness: Requires confidence to not come off as completely insincere. You cannot assert your will over your lazy ass, so certainly you cannot assert your will over anyone/anything else.
Competence: You refuse to make yourself into a useful member of society, because you tried joining a factory and they told you no.

There's your first block. You need at least 4 of those in an acceptable range, 3 in a high level, or 2 in an extremely high level. You have half of one.

For turning "I want to fuck you" into "I want to be with you long term", you need:

Values: Integrity, loyalty, respect. The mere fact you consider NEETing as "living in peace" is already a good sign this just ain't it. The incel language adoption doesn't help either.
Respectability: Is in line with integrity. You need to be considered someone acceptable by society. Doesn't mean rich, doesn't mean a doctor. It does mean not a bum, though.
Safety: You need for her to feel secure of the relationship. That means she needs to believe you're unlikely to leave her to die when things get tough. You're not even willing to move your ass to save yourself, so...

So, yeah, if you want work advice: Do whatever, save, learn a trade.

To find a partner first you must become someone attractive. That means working on looks, confidence, competence, and charisma. Lots of practice.

Then to turn a fucky fucky into a life together, you need to have a life worth sharing. So does she, incidentally.

It's a lot of work, but it's what life boils down to. Or, you can keep being racist and contributing nothing to society while you rot and call it "having room for pleasure". Your call, actually.

[–]Zabadoodude2 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99120 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

thats not correct, i offered myself for factory and manufactoring work, i got rejected multiple times, if they would accept me, i would do my duty, but i dont have the capability to achieve way higher education or tradeskill, especially with my age and capabilitie. right now you are gaslignting me for no reason....

be happy that you seem to dont have my problems it doesnt improve you by making me down. i would do my duty in a factory, but they dont want me, they offer me apprenticeships which i decline, or mcdumb work which i also decline. if you truly want to help me, please explain, why they offer me apprenticeships but refuse to take me as a factory worker, when they take others? so you cant say i dont make any effort, i simply cant offer a full apprenticeship with my age and conditions it would be to difficult and that level of sophistication that i could offer, they reject me. so what am i supposed to do? you magically assume everyone can do anything, no if that would be the case everyone would be doctor or engineer.

[–]Zabadoodude2 points 3 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99120 points 3 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

there might be 10 others sure, but if i am simply not designed for trades, its not my problem if i dont make sense in this world, its not my fault if i was designed for factory work which is not longer needed, and i am not suitable for trades too, thats why i also ask if there is a way to leave society in an on parasitical manner, i cant go trades, no affinity for it, no energy for it, but i refuse to do service jobs, but i dont wanna be a parasite either, its not my fault that i am designed to what i am.

Maybe we must face reality, i am no longer needed in this world for that i was designed, and to reconfigure me is not always possible, thus i would like to exit.

I think you are an asshole, i try to ask what my options are, its not like i am a criminal or any other parasite, i try to fit in this world and make sense, but if i am not designed for trades or because of age reasons its not raesonable, what you gonna do?

you are the kind of guy that tells someone with an 90 iq, just become a doctor.....

[–]ViolentShallot3 points 3 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99120 points 3 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

if i was younger i would do it, but i dont see the point with my age starting from new, i also felt that when i worked for testdays, people were hostile towarsd me because of my age and because i am not from a "trades" background, they were unwilling to show me stuff, like they would a 18 year old, they see me as a "threat", and even without that, i cant afford those 3 to 4 years, cant you understand it?

i need something quicker, if there is not an option i will accept my fate and leave society, but if there is an option without 3-4 years thats not mcdonalds, then i will continue, please dont recommend me trades, if you want to truly help me, help me find the non trades route, let younger men do that right from the start, people are more lenient to them, they dont see them as threats and all good. i need a simpler solution, and i will accept the fact that even that job wont net me a girl, if that is the case so be it, then i will continue to 50 and then end my life anyway. i just want to get a last chance with 3-12 months traiining and see what i can achieve, if i fail i end my life anyway, but i wont do trades, there must be any other option left, if there is, i would be excited to hear about it and try my last effort.

we also have to differentiate wha you mean with trade. building electric compontents in a factory that would require 3-12 monts training to do it, yes i would do. working on a construction site as a full grown electrician doing everythign rquiring 3 to 4 years training? no. i am sadly not smart enough to be doctor or engineer so i could avoid hard physical labour, but i am smart enough to learn something and produce that in a factory, so that others dont have to produce that on site under harsh weather conditions and cans imply install it, that i could see myself doing if granted the chance.

and if there is not an option for that, i accept my fate.

[–]Zabadoodude1 point 3 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Jobs where you can make good money in less than a year and arent extremely physically demanding are very rare and therefore very competitive. It's not a realistic option.

Is there any way you could get back into your old career? Could you lie about your mental health problems? If that's not an option,you have to decide if you're OK spending a few years getting into a new career, or if you want to work a low wage warehouse/service job for the rest of your life, or live as a parasite. Those are your options. Not trying to be an asshole, that's just reality

If you really want a family then taking a couple years to get a decent career gives you the most chance for success, but only if it's coupled with getting into amazing physical shape, going out a lot, and talking to a lot of women.

If you don't want to do trades you could get a job as a technician or fo into nursing, but these jobs all also take a few years of education.

[–]Professional_Tie99121 point 3 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

no i cant go back, sadly. i would like a new career, but not "trades" its too physical for me and i dont have the affinity for it and it takes too long to be fully certified, at that age i am too old for family and it becomes harder, not only to get a younger women, but also to keep in mind that a possible child you are also way over 60 when it hits adult age......

i worked as forkliftdriver, but i wasnt happy with it, the average people there are icks, psychopaths, payment was ok, but perceived status is too low, definitively better than mcdonalds, but also not what i am really looking for, any schooldropout could do that too, why me? for a schooldropout this job is fine, for me its just something i do for necessity but i dont like it and i dont really belong there. THats why i tried manufacturing, getting trained internally on this and that machine, stoll contributing to society and not feeling totally dumb doing it, that was my plan, but i got rejected too often, with that i would be content, i still wouldnt get the best girls i desire, but i could see me having at least the chance of a luckshot, as a forklift driver? never, only hardcore nerd girls that were higher educated like me, but i have to reject them because it is dumb if a higher educated women would go for me, we wanna keep it real, what can i except as a forklift driver for a true equal women.

Is there anything similar to forklift driving? it took me 2 days to make and at laest you dont have to physicall work, also its not the worst job but i only worked on "non essential" goods like beer and sweets, i never was accepted as frorklift driver for stuff that produced technical goods, electric or mechanical components, at the end of the day noone needs beer or sweets

Nursing is not an option, i dont want to be exposed too much in society and i think that is more of a job for girls.

[–]AcephalicDude1 point 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99120 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

first thanks for the reply:

i dont have the "power" nor the motivation to go in a trade, i dont like the average tradesman on a social level, i never had an affinity with that people, nothing against them, i wish them all the best of luck and wellbeing, but i am not one of those. Long time ago i studied statistics but couldnt get a job, then i worked as a train dispatcher and i was content with it, but right now i cant do that anymore cuz of depressions and the job requires absolutely drug and depression freeness, in my case its the depression.

but i woul have energy left and desire to go for anykind of factory, manufacturing jobs with slight training from 3-12 months, thats what i can offer and i would offer, but society refuses, they basically ask me, go 4 years or go mcdonalds, 4 years i "cant" nor i find it desireable, and mcdumb i dont find desireable, the option that would be ok for me, factory etc. they rejected me.

but i also dont wanna be a parasite either, i will never work at mc dumb or make 4 years apprenticeship again, i have only 2 options that i consider acceptable, 3-12 internal training for any kind of factory, or dropout of society, with that 3-12 months factory job i would get a "lesser girl", but i could accept that, this is what i could offer society, but society seems to have no interest in that, they either want me full apprentice which i dont want for reasons, or as mcdumb slave, which i also dont want. on the other hand they make it "hard" for me to be unemployed, i can feel the hatred and animosity in peoples minds when they see me and i kinda understand it, but i rather be living in the montains than working at mcdumb, is that so hard to understand?

[–]ViolentShallot2 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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i once tried a "test" at a trades, the people working there are hostile towards me. they know i come from a complete different background non trades related but i dont want to be a burden to society, but i would need to be taught, they "refuse" to teach me, if i was younger they would be more lenient, that also contributes to my "shyness" towards trades, but i offered "factory" and similar stuff, i allready worked in factories and i had no problems with the people there, but they couldnt offer me more pay or train me to do a more difficult job that require more skill, but i could see myself giving 3-12 months worht of effort for training and improving skills, but not 3-4 years, they simply wont offer me that kind of middle road what i could give, either full or nothing, but i lack energy to go full, my train dispatcher job was exactly that, it had 9 months internal school and i liked it, sadly depressions made it impossible for that kind of job, interestingly, that was the job i had the LEAST problems with people cuz there were people of similar background, the recruiters, the workers, all in the same boat i felt good, sadly those times are over, i am not a super huge fan of completely working against your talents

[–]Barneysparky2 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99121 point 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

i worked as a train dispatcher, a job that was perfect for my body and mind composition.

i cant compete with blue collar workers on a physical level, i cant compete with doctors and engineers by pure intellect, but i refuse to work at mcdumb or anything, i would rather leave society then. thats why i tried jobs that kinda suit me, like machine operator, forklift driver, train driver,i either got rejected or the pay was too low that i would think i could still have a chance with a 30-35 year old, and i dont need much money for myself, even when i was train dispatcher i never bought any branded clothing, or went to a restaurant, the money would be only to attract girls, and i also dont have any specific hobbies that would require money nor do i want to travel, i like europe, no need for hotels, flights etc. thus beyond a girl i have not much motivation

[–]Zabadoodude2 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99121 point 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

i am between 35 and 40, i dont want so say my specific age, the problem is, when i am finished with the training, i might feel to old for any women, for example if i am 43 and i would have a career and money, i dont "want" to date anymore, because on average the girl i would attract will also be older and i have no interest in older girls, and even if i have a decent job like mechanic, thats not good enough to betabuxx younger girls 25-30, you see my dilemma? i would need something faster right away, that isnt mcdumb but doesnt require a LONG apprenticeship, i can spend 6-12 months training, more than that i dont feel it.

if i cant get a "decent job" i will anyway quit life at maximum 50, no reason to get old childfree, girlfree, without "respectable" job, so even if i have the good job, i might be to old, and thus i dont get a decent aged girl, thus no interest to continue life byond 50, i am not a materialist, i dont need much money for myself, the money would be only for a girl, but if it doesnt work due to age reasons, what is the point in it, so i rather be full monk mode until my time has passed. the only option i see is something quicker than a full apprenticeship, also keep in mind jobs are scarce, i dont see the point with my age to block the job for a young motivated 20-25y man, but if i can get something quicker 6-12 montsh i would do it, i tried but got rejected

[–]Zabadoodude2 points 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Professional_Tie99121 point 4 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

with 45 i am no longer interested in a family, it must be now or in 1 year or never.

i am also not interested in retiring early if i am child and family free, i rather die at around 50 by a drug overdose in a mountain peak than continue life as old child and family free man.....

i dont need "good" money, it just needs to be slightly better than mcdumb that can be done in 6 months or even better with training on the job but doenst require a full apprenticeship.

any factory work that is more than putting stuff in cardboxes is allready acceptable for me, i simply got rejected, only the put stuff in cardbox job was offered to me, which i declined for aformeantioned reasons, thats a job for a school dropout, let him do the job, i hopei can find the job with 6 months internal training than i can continue, otherwise my life is over, if you are a nice person, at least with me the best of luck, ok?

[–]Zabadoodude1 point 3 months ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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the thing is, i see multiple 30-35y man with allready full in trades and the lack of women, they would have priority over me, what is then "left" i dont think i will take.

The only reason i am still in the "game" is that for some reason those guys for some reasons even with jobs dont do shit, but i am not an asshole, they would have priority over me.

ye i am in a western country apprenticeship takes 3-4 years , in that time i make 900-1100 euros a month, i can barely survive on my own, no possible way to make a family, then i would be way over 40,i dont think i would grab a 30-35 old then, especially when i told you i KNOW multiple 30-35y single men exist that are allready in those trades, they only for some reasons failed to achieve their goals, if they wouldnt havefailed i would be allready out of the game, thats the crazy thing about it.

i know multiple doctors, programmers, engineers 30-35 all girl and childree and some are not super bad looking either, and with those guys still single i cant compete even with a trades job..... thats also hindering me to go for it, i know my competition.

ok if factory jobs are rare, and i dont want to go trade for time reasons and because i dont have an affinity for it, what other options are there? which is kinda fast but not like sorting letters or sorting packages, i was forklift driver but i felt it was too shabby to get girls so i quit, there must be a solution, and no i dont want to do a "parasitic" job like broker, real estate or something in that regard, only real productive work.

on the other hand, if for some reason i cant find the "suitable" job, i like to dropout of society, in no way i am going to work at mcd, cuz i cant stand the animosity of the people, where can i escape too, just in case i cant find anything that kinda suits me, i dont want to be a parasite, but i wont be working mcdonalds, waiter or similar in no scenario in this world i would.

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you dont understand, i could get a job right now, but that job would be "bad" and i would feel bad too about it, with that job i cant get any decent girl and i personally dont need much money, i never did, so where is the point in working, when i dont need the money for myself cuz i have no hobbies and no big expanses, but the status with that job is so low that i cant attract any decent girl? what is the point then? half time job would in theory be enough to cover all my bills, without being a parasite and still not getting any girls, but when i told them i only want halftime, they reject me, they want me fulltime or nothing, and fulltime i only do if i think it would bring me anything in life, i am not interested in money, i was never materalist, so why waste 8 hours a day for money i dont need and which doesnt get me girls, when 4 hours suffice for the same effect? and a job that could attract girls fulltime i tried to get, but was rejected. you see the dilemma? thats why i am asking

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dude, dont be so offended, concgrats that you are mentally "stronger" then me, does that improve you by making me down? i am what i am, i dont have the hardcore mental strength like maybe you, and thats fine, i am totally fine with not getting the best girls, but if the girls i could get dont interest me but i am also not mentally strong enough to come into a territory where better options are available, what are you gonna do? i cant magically make my mind situation better.

thats why i offered a factory job to society with maybe 3-12 months internal training, but i got rejected, that is what i could offer and would do on my own, i have the energy for that left, but they don want me. i only got the offer for apprenticeship but i dont want that aka i dont have the energy, or mcdumb slavejobs, but what i would have offered which still is beneficial to society, factory and manufacturing work they reject me. so what shall i do? you cant make a rocket scientist out of a monkey i am who i am.

therapy is too expansive and therapy cant do anything for me, it cant change the way what i am attracted too, 35 is the oldest women i could date no matter if i was 18 or 60.

the optiin that i woul work for and offer to society is something in the range of 3-12 months internal training, which i got rejected multiple times. with that i could see me potentially findin a 4-5 girl and would accept that. other than that, i would rather dropout of society

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i do try to find work, but i cant get a job i think "suits" me which is respectable in a way for a potential partner i seek, cause i see no point in working fulltime if there are no realistic mating options available with that jobs status according to my looks, why work till 65 if you KNOW with that type of job you cant get a partner, or only partners that you wouldnt want? where is the motivation?

Thus i try to get a job where i think i woul have realistic chances, but i havent found it yet, and if i simply work "something" which doesnt teach me anything useful that i could take somewhere else, where is the point in it? Like for example i have no problems working in a factory, that skill could transfer to operating machines, but even that kind of jobs arent offered to me, everything is fully staffed, the only jobs right now are in the "service" industry, which i refuse to do for aformeantioned reasons, i am not that type of guy for such jobs, i would rather eat only bread and drink water than to work there, basically go monk style

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thats what i am asking for what my options are.

i "refuse" to work at mcdumb, because the average girl i could attract with my age (i am between 35 and 40 i dont wann say my axact age) i cant get an errection so i see no point in it, the girl i could get an errection wont take me, so in essence i would just work for no purpose. to avoid that problem, i tried a to get a better job, which wasnt offered to me.

on the other hand i dont want to be neet parasite either, so i allready reduced all unnecessary spendings and i onky drink water and eat the cheapest stuff like a monk, i am basically allreay like a monk, just not in a christian institutional way.

Cant you understand the point, that why work fulltime if you know you cant find a girl for your likings, where does the life energy and motivation come from? i dont have any hobbies that would require money, i am content walking in the forest and playing guitar, i dont need restaurants i cook myself, "money" is not the motivating factor, "status" is

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the only option i could see is some kind of factory/manufactoring with maybe 3-12 months internal training, but i got rejected. i also dont want to be jobless, because i can feel the hatred and animosity off people i see on the streets, i can really feel their negative energy towards me, but also i dont want to be a slave at mcdumb, and what i would have offered, the manufactoring job or similar with 3-12 month internal training on the job i got declined, if they would have accepted me i would have worked my ass off without hesitation.

is there any non christian "monk" like institution where i can escape too if i cant get the job i could offer to society but i dont want to accept what society offers me, aka mcdonalds wageslave? then i prefer to exit, i cant stand the negative energy and animostiy anymore

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