Do not sleep in the same bed as a woman - if you are not being sexual.

leftajar · 2014-08-01T15:54:39+00:00

A girl came over one night. When I put the moves on her, she said, "Can't we just cuddle?"

I said, "Honey, I cuddle with my pillow. I got shit to do tomorrow, should I call you a cab?"

She warmed up real quick after that.

fapuffin · 2014-08-01T14:21:45+00:00

What if you LIKE cuddling? I know I'm in the extreme minority here, but I do like it. O-O

panicattackk · 2014-08-01T15:33:01+00:00

Why are all the posts that disagree with OP being downvoted?

I think it all has to do with your frame. I slept with the last 2 girls I dated before I ever had sex with them but it was my choice. We did fool around a lot but we did not have intercourse until afterwards.

I think sleeping with the chicks actually got them to be more into me because I wasn't pressuring them into sex. There was a lot of kissing and touching/fooling around. I really didn't give a shit that things didn't escalate and was tired and wanted to go to bed. I slept on my back in a very dominant position and they rested their heads on my chest and we both went to bed.

Maybe this experience doens't add up to what OP was saying because even though we didn't fuck we did mess around sexually.

swallowpls · 2014-08-01T20:50:32+00:00

this is retarded. im not going to be sexual with my mom.

MasterMH · 2014-08-01T14:10:49+00:00

Not going to lie, this is a little ridiculous.

I mean, I can see how it might fit into a few situations, but it's hardly common enough for its own post..

Do you frequently get invited to sleep next to someone and not get sex? That's just bizarre. It seems more like something to happens when a couple has been together for a while.

JustSoha · 2014-08-01T15:50:09+00:00

also, if you are in a bed with a girl, and not fucking her, you're already doing something wrong..

Whisper · 2014-08-01T21:41:44+00:00

The sole exception to this is if A: You're already fucking her regularly, and B: you're both just plain exhausted and would rather sleep.

But that's a niggling little exception. Your actual point is spot-on.

MasterMH · 2014-08-01T18:20:20+00:00

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jadedspade · 2014-08-01T15:09:55+00:00

It honestly does not matter what you do, as long as you hold frame and build attraction.

I went home with a girl I met at a concert, took her back to my buddy's place with a bunch of other friend's. Couldn't escalate because we all slept in the same room (and if you say I could have done otherwise, kindly go fuck yourself), so we slept on the ground together. I had ramped up my attraction sky high. If you have developed game, it doesn't fucking matter what you do. Next time I saw her I fucked the shit out of her.

This post comes off as whiny and beta. There are more important parts of RP theory that we should be preaching. Frame matters 100 times more than this. It doesn't matter what you say or do, as long as it's in the context of your own frame. Little things like this represent an immature understanding of the red pill.

MasterMH · 2014-08-01T23:27:49+00:00

what if there's a religious reason like ramadan and you escalate and turn her on but you establish a safe word and she uses it?

bertstare10 · 2014-08-02T05:04:24+00:00

it entirely depends on situation.

I would not do it in MOST situations but there are a few I can think of.

bsutansalt · 2014-08-03T16:49:43+00:00

I like a comment another poster made in a thread about deadbedrooms: cuddling is the sexual dessert after the soup, salad, and main course. Having nothing but junk food intimacy in the form of cuddling leads to a malnourished relationship that eventually withers and dies.

HurricanSam · 2014-08-01T14:51:18+00:00

I find it unnecessarily limiting to only sleep with women if I want to fuck them. Maybe I'm being sexually satisfied elsewhere and I like cuddling with this particular woman. Choosing a level of intimacy to less than "fuck her like a porn star" with one woman doesn't make me a beta orbiter, nor does it define my future interactions with her.

Hell, maybe I enjoy emotional intimacy from time to time.

Gami_Lon · 2014-08-01T19:39:58+00:00

Very VERY good advice. If I'm on a date with a man, and we wind up in bed and he can't figure out how to fuck me, I would be simultaneously insulted by him and disgusted by him.

No way to recover from THAT scenario.

vox_veritas · 2014-08-01T21:12:42+00:00

I think this also applies to those past the "getting to know you" stage, but to a lesser degree.

For example, I have been with my LTR for ~3 years. Even if I'm not fucking her that night, not getting a blowjob, etc., I always do something sexual even if it's not a big deal. I will always grab her awesome ass a few times, squeeze her tits, whatever. She loves it.

But your point should be strictly applies by those in the early stages of the relationship with the girl, or with any established plate. If you're at that stage, there is no reason to (literally) sleep with someone else unless you're getting off. Otherwise, you should be sleeping alone and getting up early to begin the next day and start accomplishing your goals for the day. God knows if some cold bitch wanted to just cuddle all night it would hurt my tendency to get up at 6am on the weekends and seize the day.

ForgotMyNameGG · 2014-08-02T11:03:51+00:00

Cuddling is the shit. I have rules for my house and my bed, but days where I just spend time in bed watching Netflix with my gf is fucking great. If you want to have sex, do it, if you don't feel it, then no need. Wtf are all these rules coming from

skoobled · 2014-08-02T16:33:02+00:00

Had this a similar situation recently: girl started coming over and staying semi-regularly. No way in hell I could get my dick in her (she threw me off every time...). However, that was the only base in couldn't get to. So in terms of PIV it was a failure but at least I demonstrated sexuality. Last time I saw her she said she'd wanted to ask me if she could stay at my place for a week or two between apartments but knew "I would want sex". Needless to say I would've refused if she had asked

So I guess the golden rule is make damn sure you try! Otherwise you're nothing but a pussy

Title	Do not sleep in the same bed as a woman - if you are not being sexual.
Author	MasterMH
Upvotes	88
Comments	50
Date	August 1, 2014 9:50 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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