Why is it okay in the eyes of TRP for the "alpha" guy to have sex with lot of women while women who do the same are automaticly classified as cumbuckets/sluts?

kborz1 · 2014-08-20T14:44:00+00:00

It's easy for women to get sex while keeping yourself more chaste is very hard especially in today's hypersexual society, this it is looked up to. For guys being a virgin is super easy while going out and seducing lots of women is hard work and both men and women look up to the man that can make it happen especially if it looks like it takes him no effort.

It's the same reason fat, flabby and unkempt people are looked down upon. it's easy not to take care if yourself, while maintaining a fit body and a solid dress sense is hard work.

Additionally a woman's sex is her primary resource, so giving it up so easy decreases it's value for all other women which is primarily why women and not men slut shame. Trp doesn't slut shame it only tells you not to marry the sluts since they don't value themselves or their sex. And by extension probably won't value whoever gets suckered into marrying them.

[deleted] · 2014-08-20T14:35:21+00:00

It is descriptive, not perscriptive. We've observed and documented how people behave.

The burden is on those who would change this to prove that the behavior is conditioned and not innate. They have not done so, but have attempted massive societal changes on the unfounded assumption that it is so.

kanaduhisfruityeh · 2014-08-20T14:23:24+00:00

The "double standard" isn't a trp thing. It is a general society thing. It cuts across all segments of society.

For example, girls want the guy who bangs all the chicks. They laugh at the guy who is a "virgin loser" and don't want him. They look down on the girls who are too promiscuous.

[deleted] · 2014-08-20T15:00:38+00:00

It's laughable easy for a girl to have sex with a man. Any non-repulsive girl can go to a bar and find 10 desperate losers who would probably pay money to have sex with her.

As a man you have to be socially charming, physically attractive and better than the other men around you. Having sex with lots of women is a challenge on a completely different level to a girl sleeping with a bunch of guys.

frankferri · 2014-08-20T14:32:52+00:00

i have enough sperm in me to fertilize all women in the planet 5 times over

an average woman has enough eggs in her for maybe 100-200 kids?

HS-Thompson · 2014-08-20T15:05:06+00:00

Because we are men. And men and women are different.

If reality doesn't match your assumptions question your assumptions.

kick6 · 2014-08-20T16:20:47+00:00

Intersexual relations are a market, and a relationship is a market transaction.

The things that women are buying from men: his status, power, wealth, and physical attraction are confirmed by a high notch count

The things that men are buying from women: her fidelity which is part & parcel of her femininity are destroyed by a high notch count.

Said the typical red pill way: men are the gatekeepers of commitment, women are the gatekeepers of sex. This is the quintessence of the exchange. Just as a man that will give his commitment away easily (beta orbiting) is unattractive to women, so is a woman who gives her sex away easily (slut).

One caveat: this is JUST for relationships. Most guys just looking for pump & dumps love sluts.

EmbeddedAssets · 2014-08-20T18:17:00+00:00

The same reason why beta married guys get laughed at for being cuckolded and cheated on while not being able to fuck his wife, and virgin or near virgin girls are prized for stuff like LTR's and marriages.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-08-20T18:25:15+00:00

TRP doesn't shame women who have a lot of sex with different men.

They shame women for having a lot of sex with different men who then complain about not being able to find a "good man", demand that they get the same commitments from men as a woman who hasn't slept with a lot of men, hide that past in order to con unassuming betas, and because having such a past makes them shitty wives (and mothers, usually).

The prevailing thought in TRP is that you fuck sluts, you don't love or marry them.

alisonstone · 2014-08-20T19:14:25+00:00

"The eyes of TRP" are simply the eyes of observers watching the rest of society. You might call it a double standard, but it is not our standard, it is society's standard. TRP subreddits are so small and insignificant, that it has no effect on the rest of society. It didn't even exist a few years ago. Yet stuff like the divorce statistics (which are collected before the creation and spread of "men's communities" online) are very real.

People who are shaming are doing it wrong. You should only be concerned about increasing the probability that you will have a favorable outcome. If the data says that divorce rates are higher with single moms or women with large partner counts, then it would be pretty irrational to not adjust your behavior (i.e. don't date them) based on the data. A lot of people try to come up with theories to explain the observations, such as using evolutionary biology. But at the end of the day, does it really matter? The explanation can be completely wrong or maybe you don't have an explanation at all. But as long as the correlation exists, you should act upon it.

At the end of the day, whether it is okay to shame or not okay to shame is irrelevant. Whether it is a double standard or not is irrelevant. Those rocket scientists that went to Wall Street made billions using black box algorithms trading on correlations that exist in the market. They don't know why the correlations exist, just that they do, and that they can profit from it. We can talk about morals and ethics all day, or try to fit theories to data all day, but it doesn't change the fact that women who are single mothers or women who have had many sexual partners tend to be bad partners.

Cyralea · 2014-08-20T19:52:34+00:00

Evolutionary biology. It's a holdover from our tribal hunter-gatherer ancestry.

Women slept with the top alpha because that's how they ensured they got the best DNA. Sharing that top alpha didn't impact their genetic legacy in any way. As such, a man that is seen as able to have sex with a lot of women is not seen as undesirable, rather he's perceived as being more attractive.

Conversely, men have to worry about cuckoldry and sperm-competition (lots of semen inside one woman). Having sex with a chaste woman was the best guarantor of passing on one's DNA as a man. Men who developed an aversion to sluttiness procreated successfully more than those who did not.

Men and women are different. If you take anything away from TRP it's that one line.

lord-denning · 2014-08-20T15:18:38+00:00

Come on guy. Women are guardians of virtue, men are guardians of commitment. Spend more time in the sidebar.

zyk0s · 2014-08-20T15:26:26+00:00

Why is it ok for a woman to cry, but a man is laughed at? Why is an overly confident man sexy, but a woman would be called bossy? Why is a woman who is nice and caring attractive to men, but a man like that is an unappealing beta?

The sexes are different, men and women have different preferences, and a different experience through life. Don't try to think "why can women X but men can Y?", it's unproductive.

etcomro · 2014-08-20T16:23:07+00:00

Because TRP is a reflection of society's biases at large. As enlightened as TRP claims to be, as a whole they are not. They are men who are typically unsatisfied with themselves and their sexual experience. Which makes it easier for them to shame women for having sex. Remember, a slut is only a woman who's having more sex than YOU would like her to have.

[deleted] · 2014-08-20T16:50:47+00:00

The point is not name calling actually let's keep the name calling aside.

The purpose of TRP is to offer an accurate perspective on reality and to level the playing field for guys, so that if they decide to ride the pussy carousel (aka spinning plates) they have the chance to do. And just like many women are looking for a BB/provider in the long run, a guy can opt to find a unicorn or a low-count woman for a long term relationship.

The term slut referring to either male or female should be eradicated from the dictionary. Same goes for player.

AverageAsian69 · 2014-08-20T14:49:06+00:00

For whatever reason, I don't slut-shame. I don't really care if a woman has a high "number" as long as she did it for the right reasons. If she just did it to have fun, not to gold dig or manipulate, it's no different than what I do, so I don't feel any need to slut-shame. Whether or not I would MARRY her is a different story and I haven't quite figured out my position on that yet. For sex alone I prefer girls with slightly higher numbers, I've found they're better in bed. I've had sex with like 4 virgins before and they were mostly bad and clingy after.

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