Assertive conversation, her response

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October 16, 2016
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So I went all WISNIFG on her last night. Assertively told her I want sex to be a part of our relationship. Then proceeded to use every tool in that book to navigate the conversation. It was actually pretty fun. Anyhow, my takeaway as her responses were, in a nutshell

  1. I don't feel very close to you
  2. I don't feel attractive because you don't tell me I'm pretty
  3. There's just not enough time (you'll see in my post history that we have a 9 week old) I just fogged, etc the whole time, and eventually ended the conversation. These responses are definitely typical for us, but I would guess are pretty typical generally. Just wondered what the group thought.

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Title Assertive conversation, her response
Author prarrott
Upvotes 8
Comments 19
Date 16 October 2016 01:57 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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Link https://theredarchive.com/post/206997
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[–]ArchwingerRed Beret16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can count the number of times I've verbally talked an unwilling woman into sex on zero hands.

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Post history says you've been in low sex marriage for years. She knows you want sex - you keep begging for it. She does not want to have sex with you because she is not attracted to you. It's not mysterious.

Lift. STFU. Improve yourself.

[–]FriedHayek3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I want sex to be a part of our relationship.

Just like you wouldn't fuck a ridiculously unattractive woman, because you don't want to, she doesn't want to fuck you. If a fat woman would get fit, you'd want to fuck her, right? But not before fatness turns to fitness, right?

She doesn't think you're attractive yet. So, go lift, go stfu, go improve yourself. Find out what's unattractive about you, and make it attractive.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

you are going to be so happy you reset yourself to 0 and now you can just STFU and lift -diet. Become a "hawt" male specimen and from this point forward truly do not say another word about sex cause that's what men do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Ok, I'm in. Regarding the sex, do I just begin to initiate at random? Start rubbing her back, then kissing, etc. ? Right now our schedule is pretty set, and sex is not a part of it. I have always "talked about it" before, but that was bullshit that got me nowhere, obviously. I only had this coversation to use the WISNIFG techniques to actually find out what I was up against regarding the mountain of sexlessness.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

So how much have you read ?

Tonight is a good time to read Book of Pook

Tonight is a good night to look up Seapan and ARex and read their stories

I will say that perhaps you should look up frame on TRP

The easiest things you can do right now are

1- do as you say you are going to do

2- lead the planning of your life. Financial, meals, schooling for the child - yes don't be a fuck and bury your head in the sand, school district and college fund are imperative Get a calendar out and plan the entire year. State what you want to do, set some compromises and move forward

3- diet and exercise - go for results, make a plan and stick to it.

4- give her some space- she just pushed out a baby.

5- be social. Be the best mofo in the room. Politics, money and religion should not be your topics, Talk to all the new parents in the groups and carry that kid around for a good ice breaker. Especially the chicks

6- your fucktard research on the sex with the wife is unattractive. Now you are going to have to flip that. Own Your Shit

Read MMSLP. Lots of good shit in there. Read BPP guide to dread. For right now look at 60 Days in the side bar.

Initiate sex if you want it. If she is rejecting you with hard no's - then what ?

[–]ex_addict_broRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude,sorry,but first sentences of this comment show that you're a FUCKING CLOWN. Stop posting and read some shit. And don't ask me which shit and where. Think for a moment.

[–]PurpleVeteranRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

WISNIFG ... Assertively

Those are completely different poles on the MRP spectrum.

WISNIFG is a tool for co-dependent, validation-starved pussies who can't say no. I'm not even sure how you can claim to be assertive at all. You made your demand, and then let her drive the discussion while you fogged your half until you got bored/hurt/whatever?

Assertive is using day bang on your wife. It's showing her that she's sexy by being physical instead of using words. Scheduling a sitter, telling her to wear a dress, and taking her out.

Look, I understand that you're having a hard time telling your wife what you want, so this was a first step, but all you did was find out what she wants.

The ball is back in your court.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your point is overall well recieved. But I used broken record throughout the conversation, telling her I wanted more sex. So I did tell her what I wanted.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

With respect to sex...keep on being a master debater and you'll keep on masterbating. Simple as that.

If she were a fortress surrounding the city of awesome sex...you are laying siege and trying to break down the front gate. Instead, send a few spies in through back doors. Befriend the citizens, start a coup, and open the gates from the inside.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No more talk. Know, not fear, that you'll get a divorce eventually. Start becoming the guy women want to fuck.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Excellent work! All of that is actionable. Basically she's saying that she thinks you don't want her in your frame.

  1. I don't feel very close to you

She doesn't know what you are thinking and is having trouble trying to track you. Be more open emotionally. Do not be needy. Just let her know what's going on. And make an effort to know what going in with her, too. Focus on acknowledging and understanding what she says. Do not try and fix things for her unless asked. The reason is that she will withhold if she feels she feels you will overreact.

  1. I don't feel attractive because you don't tell me I'm pretty

She's feeling insecure and unattractive. This is not unusual particularly after pregnancy. What's your plan to address this? Don't be thirsty.

  1. There's just not enough time (you'll see in my post history that we have a 9 week old)

I just fogged, etc the whole time, and eventually ended the conversation. These responses are definitely typical for us, but I would guess are pretty typical generally. Just wondered what the group thought.

Good. Use the tools to open up more. Be aware of your own insecurities and learn to calm them yourself. Be persistent and keep trying.

One duh moment for me was when I realized I had to force my wife to take time for herself to unwind and relax. I literally had to kick her out of the house. She was refusing to R&R and self-care and making things even more stressful for herself. She fought me tooth and nail on this but I was persistent and kept coming back until she caved.

FWIW my wife reliability shut down sexually during pregnancy and for 18+ months after each and every one of our three children. It can be extremely frustrating reading about all the hypersexed pregos and new moms.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

What are you happy about here again?

[–]bourbonhipster4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

He's happy he read the book

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus...

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Mommy, I'd like the pussy please."

"Babey boy, you haven't behaved. None for you."

WISNIFG is a tool. The solution is, get fit, be attractive.



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