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'Older women still want sex...but men don't want to sleep with them': Actress Jacqueline Bisset, 69, talks about female desire

wrez

July 27, 2014
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Title 'Older women still want sex...but men don't want to sleep with them': Actress Jacqueline Bisset, 69, talks about female desire
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Date July 27, 2014 11:29 PM UTC
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[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal 158 points159 points160 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Older women are finding out what it means to be an average to below-average man.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not even below average. More like below the 80% line.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 58 points59 points60 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

It is almost like nature has a sense of humor. The young women who cruelly reject men now will end up being dried up prunes that men don't want to have sex with. The old women who men don't want to sleep with now probably used to be young women cruelly rejecting men.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points82 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

So many men would have wanted to pork Jacqueline back in the day, and so few were able to; there's no way of calculating the amount of sperm spilled watching the first few minutes of The Deep over the years.

And now, Jacqueline is pissing and moaning that she can't get boned.

Irony is a dish best served old.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't try to bypass the bot.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What did he try to do?

[–]Tebore 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to know too. It's so frustrating seeing [deleted] all the time on Reddit, but I guess that's what I get for only only browsing the front page.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Time to start banning people who bypass the bot to pollute our sub.

[–]Misteralcala 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a place of open discussion. Trolls will be summarily executed and their remains used to fertilize fields of relevant discussion.

[–]Komodo_Pineapples 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you getting mad at her for being attractive enough in her prime to be able to choose which men she would have sex with?

Are you getting mad at her being attractive and not having sex with all of her horny male fans?

Are you implying that this natural aging process is some sort of cosmic retribution for not having sex with her male fans?

[–]__KnighT__23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

cruelly reject

Rejection isn't cruel. One of the basic principles of TRP is that sex must be earned, and no man is entitled to sex. Rejection is part of how sexual selection works in humans.

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

What I mean by "cruelly reject" is they don't just reject, but go out of their way to be as mean as possible about it. Which is why I don't have time for ugly bitches or disgusting used up hags that want to suck up my time and resources. If they're young and attractive but don't want to fuck me, then they can fuck off, and I'll get my rocks off somewhere else. If they're old and ugly then they're not even worth my time.

[–]Modredpillschool 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What I mean by "cruelly reject" is they don't just reject, but go out of their way to be as mean as possible about it.

Some get a sick pleasure from it.

[–]1myTRPaccount 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men do not "earn" sex. If you were to "earn" it, you would be entitled to it if it were withheld.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Assuming an equal number of men and women, and ignoring homosexual relationships (since they are a very small percentage), it is not possible for women to have an above average level of validation and sex when they are young and have that continue when they are old. If younger woman take up most of the men, then that implies that older women are left with few.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's being lost here is that women who are drop dead gorgeous often spend their lives being pretty and as the gorgeous goes away there's nothing left to be attracted to, and they don't understand why.

At 57 most of the women I'm attracted to have perspective, experience, a clue, a brain and something interesting to say for themselves. It's rarer than you think. You can overlook a lot of wrinkles when you do find them.

[–]Algermas 47 points48 points49 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Beta men want sex... but women don't want to sleep with them.

Women are blind to beta male charms, says beta male.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As usual... The article points out the problem here is men not wanting to fuck oldies... Never gets old I guess

[–]PIBagent 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Never gets old I guess.....

"...Unlike the woman in the article" was the punchline I was expecting.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Ms Bisset, then and now. Which gets YOUR dick hard?

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]juanqunt 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hnnngggg dat paper thin skin and vascularity. A bodybuilder's dream conditioning.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That old wrinkled skin needs some protein emollient. You should provide it. :]

[–]Riusakii 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It looks like her hand is about to fall off her arm.

[–]8jh 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The second is really not bad at all for a 69 yr old. Only reason I would nope out of there is a woman by that age would have to have not only herpes and HPV but also for so long that the symptoms aren't visible anymore

[–]16 TRP VanguardTRPsubmitter 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only reason I would nope out of there

Really? That's the only reason? She's 69 years old...

[–]manofdepth 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha! That's the funniest shit out there

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points55 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If older women want sex they can fucking pay for it like older men have for eternity. The entitlement is amazing. Nobody wants to fuck old people unless they get paid. Get over your self lady and break out the checkbook!

[–]etherael 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They do.

[–]tropicalpolevaulting 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but consider having to pay for something you've been getting for free for decades, THAT's their problem.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was looking for a YT of this, but the best I found was a quote from the movie ... made in 1984 ... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087385/quotes?item=qt0492555

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 71 points72 points73 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

If I built time machine and went back 51 years in time, would 18-year old Jacqueline Bisset have given me the time of day if I tried to say hello to her on the street? Or would she have called me a creepy loser rapist for looking at her?

[–]PornTrollio 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently it would depend on what you smelled like.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Did women already call creepy men rapists back in the day?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those words probably not, but a pervert would be pretty likely

[–]kanaduhisfruityeh 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She would've used whatever the 1850s equivalent of "creepy rapist" was.

[–]12FAM0US 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

goodness gracious, Ethel, i was walking to church this morning and some lad was being such an unsavory charlatan and commenting on my knickers! i told him off like a proper lady of course, hehehehe! giggles as she takes another bite of her crumpet

[–]Frogtarius 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People need to get over the stigma of wearing brown paper bags

[–]Clauderoughly 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

My response to her

Yes we don't want to fuck dried up prunes, and if you had been a better class of woman, you'd be able to keep a guy around.

Hell, do what most french couples do and let him have a 20 something gf on the side.

[–]Ganjgirlsandsteelies 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Am I wrong in assuming that French women also keep young lovers on the side?

[–]Clauderoughly 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

not usually, but it happens. Usually French women just accept a certain level of fucking around on the side.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1195624/French-women-dont-just-tolerate-husbands-affairs--expect-them.html

[–]dogellionaire 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Usually French women just accept a certain level of fucking around on the side.

As a french guy, that makes me laugh. this couldn't be further from the truth. i know a guy that has been stabbed by his girl because he cheated once, and another got a hunting rifle unloaded into his car door.

[–]chakravanti93 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It could be any marginally acceptable trope. The french have long been sexualized in popular history. Any guy of sexual competence can use an older woman like this to check his harem for him.

[–]BouRayZa 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Giscard was a cheater, Mitterrand even had a second secret family until his death, Bernadette wouldn't mind her Chirac high on coke ass-to-mouthing every fuckable journalist avaible on Paris as long as he keep it discreet and don't, for example, outwardly flirt with a young journalist in front of the cameras ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5wGf5Tt8U ) but your average French woman would give you shits just for wandering your eyes in the wrong direction while weighting the pros and cons of breaking up with you to fall in the arms of this guy who makes her laugh and blush but doesn't seem ready to commit.

Hypergamy, guys, hypergamy everywhere.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure there are still men who would stick it into her old thingy, but she doesn't want them because she believes she still is entitled to better ones.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I don't plan to stop having sex with women in my older years. I'm going to be like Stallone and take safe testosterone cycles. The dude looks fucking incredible and could easily slay at his age, fame or not.

Btw, he's about the same age as Jacqueline Bisset too.

[–]MasonJarTeaDrinker 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

For real I never thought about that, I'm gonna be taking those roids also at that age, they probably help with getting hard ons as well.

[–]iopq 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

At that age you don't call it roids. You call it "testosterone replacement therapy" and it's actually legal.

[–]MasonJarTeaDrinker 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well whatever it's called, it seems like it works well.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Dark_Shroud 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women can take HGH, it won't work as well as TRT for men but it is a real option used by Hollywood elite.

Some other important ones to look into:

  • Glucosamine
  • Hyaluronic Acid
  • MSM (methyl sulfonyl methane)

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stallone also takes HGH which is legal, just take the proper amounts.

Also, you'll want the holy trinity of supplements:

  • Glucosamine
  • Hyaluronic Acid
  • MSM (methyl sulfonyl methane)

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Jacqueline is correct. When I was young I would go for older women. Now that I am my 50's I find women in their 50's gross; especially ever since I started working out and I have a good body.

I guess if I found someone my age and as toned as I am I might change my mind, but... I have not seen any. It's even hard to find toned women in their early 40's.

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not just the 40-something women, it's how gym business model works today. In a way we have to be thankful, since they subsidize the membership of those people who actually show up at the gym.

It's sad. Ask any good woman and they'll tell you that their 40's is their prime time, both mind and body are ready for some freaky stuff; but if their body is not up to par, they miss out on so much.

I have 2 plates, 39 and 43, they both workout, especially the 43 yo has the body of a 20-something, it makes a difference for the both of us.

[–]PornTrollio 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What was the point of that 'article'? Was it about her movie or about her sex drive?

Seemed to alternate on each of the 6 sentences in it.

[–]Gman777 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Suck shit. Now you know what all the men you rejected feel like. Maybe there's nothing you offer beyond your faded looks, and that's why no one wants you.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

you know people like you give trp a bad rep. you probably have a point that the ones complaining don't have something to offer beyond their faded looks, still, calm the fuck down and put that bitterness gun down.

edit: /r/zeny_two does have a point. i could have worded my post better. but i did not try to shame /r/gman777. we are entitled to our anger. my own opinion is that if you're own reaction is suck shit, you should take a step back and look where you're coming from.

[–]zeny_two 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Charge of Irascibility (Code Red): The target is accused of having anger management issues. Whatever negative emotions he has are assumed to be unjustifiable.

"Calm down."
"You're bitter."

Policing tone is against the rules here. Shaming tactics are frowned upon. Your comment is more offensive than Gman's schadenfreude

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

aye, you have a point, but it was a fair point on my part as well. as was his. i could have framed it differently, and so could he. i wasn't trying to shame him though, at least not consciously. AWAL, but also women are just women. generalizing one moronic behavior does echo the feminazies when they come screaming about the patriarchy, which is exactly the same mechanism.

one man does something shitty then you got "oh it's the fault of all men. we're being oppressed, fuck the patriarchy"

a man does deserve his anger - we are a corrective bunch though, you can see from my comment that i didn't lay into him as hard as i could. i didn't defend her. i said he has a point. but he is in the wrong, and ill repeat again, as am i for my tone.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, anger is a part of the redpill, and venting posts are to be left alone. but single posts on stuff like this get to me. as /r/zeny_two commented, i did make an error attacking him, and should have made a better, more constructive post.

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[–]RebootedMale 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

also revealed how she could never sleep with someone ‘who didn’t smell right’.

Jackie, ALL women don't 'smell right' post menopause. How about some empathy for the men?

(BTW, I'm completely serious about this. An ex had to take drugs that simulate menopause for 6 months due to health issues and the change in her scent was an immediate boner killer)

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There's a fine line there, I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt here.

I have a strong/sensitive nose as do several of my family members. My grandmother is in her 70s & jokes that her nose is the only thing still working right.

To the point proper grooming habits and not using bad perfumes/colognes and scented products is important to many people.

[–]RebootedMale 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The pheromones change after menopause. It's impossible for me to chub up for the natural smell of a post-menopause woman.

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't & don't disagree with you. It's pretty much why old women have perfume collections. Lavender scented laundry detergent/fabric softener and bath oils are usually enough to mask the natural smell of people to me for a little while.

I believe Jackie has always been fussy about how men smell. So I don't hold that against her. I just think she's still in denial about having to lower her standards or pay for it.

[–]zoeStein 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

But i wonder if like a married couple whos older, im talking above 60 with the wrinkles and all. Can find each other attractive because the have a stronger emotional bond. I mean I can see how older women are not attractive, but I also dont see older men (like past 60) attractive either, they both look well, old. Or if you when you get really old, and basically lose all your charm physically, if the only option is too pay for sex from someone younger or be a sugar daddy/momma?

I guess i wonder if older couples still have healthy sex lives when they are old and can still find each other attractive or if you get old and no one is attracted to anyone anymore.

[–]BlueChilli 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

My grandpa was still giving to my grandma and they were in their 80s. So...ya know...there's that.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not sure why everyone says it's traumatic. it's just a couple of old people having sex :p maybe im the strange one thinking there's nothing wrong or traumatic about that. funny, and perhaps a bit embarrassing, but not traumatic.

[–]rpkarma 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How.. how do you know that? Did you like, see them or something? The mind boggles...

[–]BlueChilli 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Arrived early for family gathering. Dad walked in on them, noped outta there and took me for a philly cheesesteak.

[–]theozoph 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dat trauma.

Ah well, at least you got a fond memory of your Dad staring at nothing for hours while you ate burger and fries...

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's both oddly endearing yet at the same time a case of "images get out of my head".

[–]PornTrollio -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Women can form attraction based on emotional bonds far better than men. Older guy probably just figures it is the best cost/benefit to screw his wife.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Wife goggles" is likely a real phenomenon. I believe oneitis creates that illusion. But it only seems to work if you were able to have the women during her prime, 18-25. If you want to marry at 40 and a guy doesn't want to, it's because he sees you as a 40 year old burden, vs a 18 year old hot piece of ass. She should have started fitting men for "wife goggles" in her early 20s, but she didn't. Oops.

[–]PornTrollio -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The term for that is post-wall.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, wife goggles is encompassing of the concept of the wall. They are not the same. The wall is a woman losing her youthful attractiveness, wife goggles is nature insulating a man from realizing that.

[–]PornTrollio -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I meant the last bit. But, thank you for the clarification.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I spend all day every day with middle-aged (50+) women for work. You get into this sort of Stockholm syndrome of finding them incredible attractive simply because that's all that's there, it's like no women under 45 exist, you being to try and find the best women in the place.

After a full week at work Jacqueline Bisset blows them all away, she's really attractive.

Quickly, I need to find some young women to remind me of reality.

[–]whitey_male 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I feel sorry for you. Half of the women out there should be banned from the work place and be given food stamps.

What I have found a couple of times is these older women being in complete denial of how their SMV is now 0. They were attractive in their younger years and just can't accept that they are now worthless.

The stark difference in their powers over time must be amazing. Because for the most part it's unearned. All a beautiful young woman has to do is not get fat and she's got the world at her feet. But then that gets stripped to nothing by about 37 and she's practically rendered retarded. The complete polar opposite.

[–]Dark_Shroud 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jacqueline Bisset is actually good looking for her age. If I was in the position I'd possibly throw her a bone.

Michelle Pfeiffer is 56 and looks better than a lot of women in their 40s & even their 30s. Part of what made the movie The Family so good/watchable was her & Dianna Agron her played Michelle's daughter.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh I'm not knocking decent older women, it's just sometimes you need a reality check when all you are seeing are older women.

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