How do feminists justify shooting down the "not all men" argument when it is against them?

gekkozorz · 2014-10-15T19:38:16+00:00

Part of the feminine is imperative is eliminating double standards that work against women and upholding those that favor them. It's why a girl can put in her Tinder profile "if under 6' swipe right:)" and then fly into a rage when you say you say you don't do fatties or A-cups.

Like much of feminism, it makes absolutely no sense when put under even the smallest amount of logical scrutiny. But that's just the way feminism is. It fights for pure, unfiltered feminine supremacy.

Trying to fight feminist powertalk with TRP straight talk is like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. The best course of action is to simply disengage. When feminists start flying into a tirade about how men should be doing more nice things for her, you just let her spin her wheel, ignore her... and don't do nice things for her.

When men stop responding to women's demands, they get scared. Really scared. Women's survival strategy has always basically boiled down to getting men to do things for them, ever since our caveman days when they'd go through a nine-month pregnancy period where they were physically incapacitated and needed protection and sustenance.

Stayinghereforreal · 2014-10-15T19:44:30+00:00

Because man-shaming all of us for the actions of a tiny minority is a valuable political tool for purposes of control.

A tool they refuse to allow their opponents to wield.

HuddsMagruder · 2014-10-15T19:50:26+00:00

They don't justify it because their mentality doesn't require justification for it. They simply accept it as fact. They aren't arguing from a position of logic or a rational base.

IVIaskerade · 2014-10-15T22:25:59+00:00

Because as has been proven time and again, cognitive dissonance can be easily repressed by not thinking about it too much and emotionally emphasising that you're just right.

SariaLystra · 2014-10-15T23:05:52+00:00

On some level, it makes some philosophical sense: yes you can't know EVERY single woman in the world is "like that" because you don't know every single woman in the world. But that's just details (are you really going to fly out to Ethiopia just to interview EVERY woman there to justify your claims?) and an impossible standard that they are setting. It is a nullification tactic that has its roots in postmodernism and egalitarianism because "who are you to presume when you don't even know EVERYTHING in the whole world?"

The basic response is "no I don't know every woman in the world but I know enough that I can extrapolate reasonably" and that would be correct (although not philosophically accurate and this is the problem David Hume grappled with with science since science does exactly the same thing).

But you can do better. Since they are arguing from emotion and not a logical basis, you should technically be able to hold frame and win. They are essentially closing their eyes and screaming "lalalala" with some bullshit flaky equality argument.

Transmigratory · 2014-10-15T23:10:02+00:00

I usually retort with "if that's the case then I'm right to believe <insert sweeping statement about women>". Then shoot them down for "sexism" and "bad argument" when they react.

23490865243879526487 · 2014-10-15T22:03:35+00:00

Feminists don't justify anything, they just pull the fire alarm.

oaknutjohn · 2014-10-16T01:28:37+00:00

The argument is that eve though all men don't do Activity X, we live in a culture that promotes said activity.

brotherjustincrowe · 2014-10-16T02:33:58+00:00

How do feminists justify anything? Not with logic.

Really it's become enough in some circles to just mockingly reply NOT ALL MEN to any response a man might have to virulent misandry. (When they're actually bothering to act like adults and not children, which is rarely the case. It's usually a "sassy" .gif or meme from a trendy TV show or film...never original either, just cribbed from Tumblr)

drrrrrr · 2014-10-15T21:04:20+00:00

They're kids with adult bodies. Not much else to it

the_red_scimitar · 2014-10-15T21:45:46+00:00

It is a RP thing that logic is not what drives women. You are attempting to use logic - a reasonable, male thing to do. It won't help you understand women at all.

flubberskin · 2014-10-16T05:28:25+00:00

Was watching american horror story with a plate and she said "ugh...I hate shows about women and chidren being harmed"

"But it is ok that men are?"

"Not at all..it is just that it is more natural for men"

....

ShitLordXurious · 2014-10-16T00:25:15+00:00

Women aren't logical. They will argue contradictory positions if it's to their advantage. The fact feminists do this is only because feminism is an example of female self-centred thinking.

Lu_the_Mad · 2014-10-18T01:07:33+00:00

Most fems are ugly. Not hard to shoot down 100% of 0 advances.

Title	How do feminists justify shooting down the "not all men" argument when it is against them?
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Date	October 15, 2014 7:28 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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