Surprisingly thoughtful article about the timing of kids, marriage and careers for women. Goes against everything feminism taught them.

OppsItHappened · 2013-08-23T20:02:29+00:00

The best part of this is the comments, where people are basically trying to argue with MATH.

It's a pretty simple formula. Let's say you want to have kids. To make this easy, we'll say it takes 1 year to have a kid (3 months of trying to get pregnant, then a 9 month pregnancy). You want to avoid the cliff that happens at 35... yes, you can have kids after 35, but it's not a great idea and you want to avoid it if at all possible. This means the latest you can conceive is 34.

Now let's say you want to have two kids, because most people who want kids seem to want more than one, with one year in between. That means you have to conceive your first kid at 32 and your second one at 34.

You're (hopefully) not just going to try to get pregnant with some random guy you find on the street. Let's assume you'd date for a year, get married, be married for a year before trying to conceive.

Basically, stretching this window to the maximum AND assuming a fairly quick dating/engagement/marriage, the latest you can meet the man of your dreams and still have two kids while avoiding the cliff is 29. That's all assuming you meet at 29, married at 31, first kid by 33 (conceived at 32), second kid by 35.

Now, take the statistic that marriages between people under 25 are more likely to end in divorce. But let's say 23, because you could be dating someone at 23 and marry them at 25.

Tl;dr: That means, essentially, women have from between the ages of 23 and 29 to secure a mate. Put your career first if you want, but understand the implications of doing so.

thesnowflake · 2013-08-23T22:31:08+00:00

That article is golden

The good news here is that a large body of research shows that you will gain more happiness by being married than by having a good job. Yes, you should not have to choose between a good job and marriage. But this column is not about what is fair or what is just. It is about what is real.

You have a biological clock that does not pay attention to issues of social justice. You cannot control your biological clock and you cannot control the workplace. But you can control where you spend your time and energy, and you should look hard for a husband early on. Line up the marriage first, then the career.

bludnthunder · 2013-08-23T21:15:52+00:00

Holy shit. Those commenters. Like absolute fucking children.

I knew those that follow the feminist line were self absorbed and not forward thinking at all but I had no idea it was that bad.

lord-denning · 2013-08-24T09:59:27+00:00

From one of the links in the writeup:

Does the risk of Down syndrome increase with the mother’s age? Yes. The risk of Down syndrome increases with the mother’s age (7):

At age 25, the risk of having a baby with Down syndrome is 1 in 1,250. At age 30, the risk is 1 in 1,000. At age 35, the risk is 1 in 400. At age 40, the risk is 1 in 100. At age 45, the risk is 1 in 30. Even though the risk is greater as the mother’s age increases, about 80 percent of babies with Down syndrome are born to women under age 35. This is because younger women have more babies than older women (1).

Sobering numbers that do not lie. Our society is doing our women and ourselves a huge disservice. Other regions of the world and other societies are living in reality, and this may come to bite our society to ass in the years to come.

But fuck it, right? If girls in ther mid-20s insist on carousel riding I guess we go along for the ride...makes you weep for more patriarchical systems tho where this reality would have been properly dealt with.

Clauderoughly · 2013-08-23T22:24:56+00:00

Feminism was designed, and built by predominately man hating, upper class lesbians.

It makes perfect sense that feminism fucks up the lives of normal women who want kids.

It's because the people who were give the advise had no concept of what it was to have kids, and not be a rich person. Or they were angry, man hating lesbians who were never going to have kids.

It's like going to the catholic church for how to best fuck a woman. None of them are going to give you any sort of practical, useful advice.

umbilicaljane · 2013-08-24T03:51:00+00:00

This makes tons of sense, and I understand the facts and formulas behind it all.

I'm curious though. I haven't met a quality man who would ever date an uneducated woman. Some of the first things they would ask "Where did you go to school?" or "What do you do?" And without a diploma or degree of some sort, it would be very difficult to get a good job. Education doesn't guarantee a good job, but it could broaden opportunities. No man I've ever met would date a woman who is not financially stable. They would be embarrassed to date someone making minimum flipping burgers or bagging groceries. And that's step 1, isn't it? If you don't get to date, there's absolutely no way to get to the marriage and children stage. Especially since you wouldn't be able to financially contribute to a growing family. Those women would just be written off as worthless gold digging housewives and whatnot.

I've seen this happen quite a few times. The article does indeed contain sound advice, but I think the likelihood of it happening is a legitimate concern as well.

I'd like to hear your thoughts, TRP.

Traz_Onmale · 2013-08-24T17:16:04+00:00

The good news here is that a large body of research shows that you will gain more happiness by being married than by having a good job.

Only if you compare married people with single people. Studies with a more correct, longitudinal design however found that getting married did not make people any happier and that satisfaction with the relationship actually decreased over time. Even though this research was biased in favor of married people because they only included those who stayed married.

Title	Surprisingly thoughtful article about the timing of kids, marriage and careers for women. Goes against everything feminism taught them.
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