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Am I correct in assuming in order to fuck you never bring it up, it’s simply taking her from place to place?

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June 6, 2019
56 upvotes

“Hey let’s grab a coffee” then from there other places and a long walk etc,

Then go in for the kiss but never even let the convo go anywhere sexual? It’ll all just happen


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Title Am I correct in assuming in order to fuck you never bring it up, it’s simply taking her from place to place?
Author DrBlasphemy
Upvotes 56
Comments 40
Date 06 June 2019 07:18 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/240946
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/bxdsw1/am_i_correct_in_assuming_in_order_to_fuck_you/
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[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed[🍰] 128 points129 points  (15 children) | Copy

Don't talk sexual, be sexual.

Acta non verba.

[–]AwkwardEmpath18 points19 points  (13 children) | Copy

Feel like elaborating? I get the gist but would be appreciative of some examples.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed[🍰] 105 points106 points  (11 children) | Copy

There are three simple things you do on a date. Every date, every time.

1 - Polarize. This means you project a sexual vibe to her. You're not just going out as friends, you're not just hanging out, you're not doing double dates or just having fun with her friends....you want to get to know her as a potential sexual being, and you need to not dilute that fact with anything. You're interested in her.

2 - Isolate. Get her away from distractions, friends, parents, randoms, city streets, shopping, anything that distracts her or could interfere with your need to be ALONE with her. You and Her are the entire reason you're together right now, so be very aware of manufacturing that "Just me and you" experience.

3 - Escalate. This means you touch her. Early. You focus on her. You calibrate your physical and emotional closeness by her responses, but it is your job to continue to up the ante. Touch her hand when you tease her. Then allow your legs to stay in contact under the table, then touch her neck. Go for the kiss. Grab a tit. Rub her pussy. Stick your dick in her. Tell her you had fun but she should go because you have an early day tomorrow. Stick your finger in her ass as she leaves. Push for what you want.

PIE

Polarize, Isolate, Escalate.

Like warm apple pie.

[–]batfish5516 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

Shit, man, I was gonna throw some advice at him, but that's a pretty fucking good summary. Still, OP needs to read more. Better yet, read a little, throw caution to the wind, and just get the fuck out there and DO.

[–]omega_dawg936 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

lol. yep that summarizes it well. no need to read any further.

[–]febreze_air_freshner21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

instructions unclear

took girl to alley, put finger in her ass, got pepper sprayed

[–]AwkwardEmpath4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the advice man.

[–]MrAnderzon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can back up your statement on the touching. Always shoot to sit next her preferably on your opposite of your dominant hand. It will eliminate space.

The legs always touching is a gem. You can start working on the neck, the arm, their stomach and waist.

Confidently fail or Confidently succeed. She ask you why: because I wanted to

[–]1rad_dynamic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Of course, you also check if you want to put your dick in her. It is a two way game.

[–]CheesyStravinsky0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

What if what you want is for a woman to sleep in your arms all night (post sex)?

Is this basically just out of the question?

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed[🍰] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

It's bonding behavior. Not ideal for plate theory.

[–]CheesyStravinsky0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Well, what to do if that's what you want in life? Kill yourself I guess?

[–]Endorsed ContributorFereallyRed[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You don't give mixed signals.

[–]CheesyStravinsky0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is that code for suicide? Like no reason to think about it much, it's obvious that's the only thing you can do really?

[–]jackandjill22-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nice.

[–]CharlesChadworth41 points42 points  (1 child) | Copy

I used to pick up girls after chatting to them on tinder/bumble and take them to a lookout point as I didn't want them to learn where I lived. I never once talked about sex to them. 20 min into chatting I would fuck them in the back seat of my car lol.

Start off kissing and place your hands near her hips and slide up etc. If she is comfortable with you, you will either get head/fuck that night.

[–]omega_dawg9323 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

listen to this man. a woman's hips are a big time erogenous zone.

there's one spot that makes them all squirm.

[–]1redhawkes28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's basically you both know whats up, but you don't bring it up overtly.

Also, you need to escalate and calibrate her feedback, so she knows that you're sexually attracted to her.

I've made out/escalated with chicks without even saying a word. Pay attention to her body language/IOI's.

[–]CrimsonShiv7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Advanced player know-how. OP is still wet behind the ears.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

“Hey let’s grab a coffee” then from there other places and a long walk etc

Don't do the long walk, but basically yes.

Then go in for the kiss but never even let the convo go anywhere sexual? It’ll all just happen

Convo can be a bit sexual, but not about the actuality of you and her. Eg you can talk about favourite position, but not how you'll put her in it. You can chuckle and wink when she says an innuendo, but never imply you'll be the one fucking her.

Touch and physically escalate.

Don't kiss, especially not in public.

Bounce to yours "for coffee"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Why don't kiss?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why don't kiss?

It relieves the sexual tension... and the problem is that you go from a maybe to a certainty. Certainty kills her hypergamic passion: she feels she can do better as soon as your interest is definitely confirmed.

It removes plausible deniability... saying "my place for coffee" after you've kissed sounds a lot like "sex" rather than the possibility it's actually coffee.

Better to touch and not kiss till you're alone at your place.

[–]flipdoggers-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Don't do the long walk

Why not

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Too romantic, too boyfriendy, probably can't have sex.

[–]Chadster11312 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have to escalate gradually. What you’re referring to is plausible deniability. Maybe some of the more experienced guys can talk of this but what it basically means is that a girl doesn’t want to feel like a slut. It’s the difference between texting a girl asking her to come over saying you want to fuck her brains out and asking a girl to come over and hangout or watch a movie and escalating then. She knows damn well why she’s coming over and you don’t have to say it

It all “just happens” for the girl. You have to make the moves

[–]CrimsonShiv4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Plausible deniability**

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Escalate into a sexual frame.

Mentioning sex out of the blue is generally bad, getting her talking about it is generally good.

Start with humorous innuendo. Synchronize with your other escalations. Get her talking and thinking about sex in general as a gateway to the idea of sex with you specifically.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do coffee dates during the day, that is what friends do. Your job is to create an opportunity for sex to happen. Start the escalation slowly, a touch on her arm, her shoulder. If she has a ring, grab her hand lightly and pull it towards you to look at it. I'm a fan of plausible deniability touching early in the interaction. Don't continuously touch her or it will look desperate, give her a chance to reciprocate. Once she starts reciprocating, you can start doing more intimate things like touching her lower back, her thigh, etc.

I spend an hour at the first venue, then switch. If things are going well, I'll tell her, "lets have a glass of wine on my balcony". If she still needs time to warm up, I do one more venue then tell her lets have a drink on my balcony. Even if she's not reciprocating the touching, but we're having a good time, I'll always try to bring the interaction back to my place and they come 90% of the time.

From there, I like to chill for 20 minutes or so with no escalation, then dance to some music for the ultimate plausible deniability sensual touching. From there, it's pretty easy. If you kiss her and she turns a cheek, back off for a bit and continue. If you grab her tits or pull her shirt up and she resists, back off and continue in 5-10 minutes.

They key is 2 steps forward, then take a step back and chill. This shows you're going for what you want but not desperate for it.

This is my method and it works for me.

[–]throwitdownman8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yes, always maintain plausible deniability. As per the theory.

However I’ve recently been having success on Tinder by being overtly sexual through text. I’m questioning as to whether the ‘slow play’ of not talking about sex is needed.

[–]DrBlasphemy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

See I think that maybe something that only works for you because I’ve tried to close or be sexual fast and have fallen flat

[–]0io-2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the girl considers herself to like sex and be good at sex. There are definitely girls who love talking dirty and get horny talking about sex, then there are the "I wasn't planning on doing anything but one thing just lead to another and it just happened" girls. Overt sexual talk and direct game works well with a lot of women. Some girls don't like it. Girls who like to role-play usually like openly sexual talk.

[–]2ComplexProjection1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Plausible deniability is to allow the woman to save her reputation, to allow her to justify "it just happened" and that she's not a whore.

On Tinder, she's alone, and she does not risk her reputation. This, PD is not needed as much.

[–]xoxuv1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women don't want to take responsibility for sex.

You have to take her to a private place with any shit excuse. She knows it is an excuse, but she is comfortable being able to pretend that has an excuse.

It doesn't means that you escalate suddenly from being non sexual to intercourse. Women sex drive is a volume knob, and you have to turn it up slowly, even if you have her in the bed.

[–]yungplayz0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That's not the only way to my experience, but it's a good and valid approach.

[–]DrBlasphemy[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The fact that there are so many methods is why males these days are so frustrated

[–]yungplayz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

  • The fact that there are so many non-working methods is why males these days are so frustrated

IMHO.

P.S.: And those non-working methods are exactly the ones men are being taught ever since they were little kids

[–]Nighthawkdragon80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Its all sub communication and pumping her emotions. She will never LOGICALLY fuck you, like you will logically decide to fuck her.

[–]DrBlasphemy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks guys, took a while but I’m beginning to understand that it’s all foreplay from the moment you meet all the way to bed with women.

[–]TheStumblingWolf0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What you're talking about is escalation. There should be plenty of searchable material on it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes. Asd will kick in but just eacalate



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