Questions about RPW and how it could apply to me

HB3234 · 2019-07-11T23:57:20+00:00

One. I am pretty far left on the political spectrum and an ardent feminist. I believe the full liberation of women makes submission more meaningful because it is given truly freely, rather than due to cultural pressure + institutional barriers.

For example, choosing to shave because you love your partner and get joy out of pleasing him is very different from shaving because otherwise your partner will cheat on you or shame you or leave you. Even though both result in shaved legs, one comes from a place of security and comfort amd love, and one comes from a place of fear and shame.

I know my partner would not leave if I was a hairy sasquatch, because that was how he found me when he fell for me in the woods. I still shave because I love how his face lights up when touching my smooth legs.

Two. RP benefits all humans who wish to have sexual relationships with other humans. But as with all knowledge, you have to be willing to do the work and apply it.

Three. Yes, 10000%.

P.S. If you need to be "convinced" to take the pill, I actually reccomend holding off and reading more. If it doesn't ring true to you, artificial submission and so on can be pretty damaging to a relationship. If you don't feel it sincerely, it will come off as manipulation.

thatbadlarry · 2019-07-11T23:21:12+00:00

I’m definitely a mixed bag (much more centrist politically and I do believe some feminist points have merit) but I find RP to be very helpful personally. RP helps me understand the “why” behind men’s behaviours and preferences. Men like smooth skin on women because body hair signifies male sex hormones more than female sex hormones. It’s more biological than we give credit for. Once you realize the “why” - RP makes more sense. For example - men have a deep deep fear of raising a child that isn’t theirs. That’s why on a primal level they usually don’t want to wife up promiscuous women. They are scared of her getting pregnant by another man! This is just one small example but it seriously felt like a lightbulb moment when I put it all together. I think RPW has something to offer every woman. “Take the best and leave the rest.” Take what works for you and feel free to ignore what doesn’t. Welcome here. :)

LaneysWorld2 · 2019-07-11T22:26:24+00:00

I apologize for answering with a question but in which ways does submissiveness cause havoc in the relationships of the women in your culture?

Because if you only made bad experiences you won't be able to see the good sides of submission and a more naturally feminine mindset.

ImTheCaptainNow24 · 2019-07-23T22:54:43+00:00

A little late to this post, but you seemed really appreciative of responses, so I thought I'd add mine:

1) Yes, I strongly identify as feminist. In fact, the handle I use for RPW is different from my regular Reddit handle because I generally feel like people from both camps don't really understand how the two opinions reconcile. I personally choose to employ some red pill principles in my own relationship. However, I don't pretend to be all-knowing, and I don't presume to impose my own lifestyle choices on others. Therefore I believe in ensuring equality and freedom for both sexes so that individuals may choose how to conduct their own lives and relationships.

Second, I believe that women who are not in traditional heterosexual relationships should have all the means and opportunities necessary to live fulfilling and stable lives without having to rely on men.

Third, I believe that most true feminist principles are not contradictory with red pill ideals. For example, the "me too" movement is feminist, but it all boils down to protecting women from sexual assault and rape. Unless anyone on this sub or TRP is advocating for sexual assault or rape, then I don't see how those two camps are at odds. As another example, feminists generally advocate for more generous maternity leave. Again, I don't see how that's contradictory to RP values to give women more time to be at home with babies.

2) Yes, I personally think TRP is valuable in most heterosexual relationships. TRP is about using biology to your advantage. Yes, you should have the freedom not to shave or do your hair or dress feminine, and if you have a partner who truly loves you, he would probably love you even if you didn't do all those things. However, he is still much more likely to be attracted to you and enthralled by you and dote on you if you put effort into your appearance in a way that plays on his biological responses. Employing some of the more psychological/interpersonal aspects of TRP will help him to feel more satisfied in the relationship as well and will just make your relationship go smoother.

3) Yes, in general RPW principles have only made my relationship better. Granted, I feel like I've taken TRP lite. I still work, and I make more than my husband does (which does not appear to bother him), and we generally share household chores. My employment of RPW generally includes prioritizing sex, putting more effort into my appearance, and showing more respect and submission in our daily life.

dashdotdott · 2019-07-11T23:29:01+00:00

1) no I don't identify as a feminist. But that has more to due with the current definition of feminism (which has move from ensuring men and women have equal opportunities to hating men).

2) I don't see why not. The RP is fairly flexible in it's application. A lot of it is recognizing how men and women are different and what they tend to want in a partner. And while men tend to want a submissive wife that doesn't mean they want a doormat either.

My husband and I aren't tranditional red pill. For example: I make more than him (by quite a bit). When we got married, he knew more about cooking than I did. I like power tools, he doesn't care (though I sense that it starting to change). But we tend to keep RP principles in mind, especially the idea of Captain and First Mate.

In practical terms: we both work. So we share chores around the house. I do the laundry, he does dishes. You're right, it isn't fair in a working couple if one person does all the housework. But you should be aware, you are more likely to care about household things than he is (ie cleanliness). But just because you care more doesn't mean you have to shoulder all the burden.

3) Yes, in that it made us (me) feel comfortable with the roles we had chosen. And I understand him a bit more and know how to approach certain things better.

Edited: hit enter too soon

teaandtalk · 2019-07-11T23:42:44+00:00

PS:

Yes, with the many caveats noted by other users.
Yes.
YES.

Title	Questions about RPW and how it could apply to me
Author	torschlussspanik
Upvotes	7
Comments	16
Date	July 11, 2019 10:21 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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